Can your next blog be about the best places to go during the Stampede?
- The-O-G

lol, not sure I can get myself to write about the stampede...

Is that you sitting to his left....
- Iggysbff

You should know...you're right beside me.

You should know...you're right beside me.
- The-O-G

Thankfully no one saw me....I used my "reading the newspaper" skills quite well

Just a thought...but are you...



or...


- Colin Dambrauskas

You should know...you're right beside me.
- The-O-G

Thankfully no one saw me....I used my "reading the newspaper" skills quite well
- Colin Dambrauskas

That's a chick

You should know...you're right beside me.
- The-O-G

I'm black???

I'm black???
- Iggysbff

I knew it! And we still talk to you...


Joking, joking, joking!!!!

That's a chick
- Lahey

no....its really not....I just like to wear womens clothing on occasion....dont judge me.

Right, but Cammy is signed for 6 million next year, if they added him no way could they sign Perry.
- The-O-G

YOU ARE SO MISSING THE POINT!! "IF" they know already that Perry wants to go to another team, likely closer to Ontario, and they feel they have a chance to win it all, trade a pick and prospect or 2 for Cammi to improve the chances of a cup this year. Then you have Perry and Cammi for a PO run.

Then "when" Perry leaves, hopefully after a cup championship, they have a cup and another top 6 goal scoring forward to fill in. That would soften the blow of lossing Perry.

Again I reiterate, they should only make a move like this "IF" they already know that Perry won't sign in ANA again.

Get it. Your killing me O-G!

YOU ARE SO MISSING THE POINT!! "IF" they know already that Perry wants to go to another team, likely closer to Ontario, and they feel they have a chance to win it all, trade a pick and prospect or 2 for Cammi to improve the chances of a cup this year. Then you have Perry and Cammi for a PO run.

Then "when" Perry leaves, hopefully after a cup championship, they have a cup and another top 6 goal scoring forward to fill in. That would soften the blow of lossing Perry.

Again I reiterate, they should only make a move like this "IF" they already know that Perry won't sign in ANA again.

Get it. Your killing me O-G!
- TandA4Flames

Although I see your point, you dont let a guy like Perry just walk in order to possibly increase your odds at winning the cup. If they bring in Cammy and others to help support their current cast, then its agreable they couldnt sign Perry because you mentioned they would use said cast to win the cup. Problem is, if this were to happen, they could no longer trade Perry and would have to HOPE that he doesnt walk.

So, although this could potentially increase your odds at winning the cup, you shouldnt possibly sacrifice a guy like Perry. Either find a way to sign him or trade away his rights for pieces you can afford to keep, which may consequently also help your cup run.

no....its really not....I just like to wear womens clothing on occasion....dont judge me.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Too late, you blog about the Flames and live east of Winnipeg.

Although I see your point, you dont let a guy like Perry just walk in order to possibly increase your odds at winning the cup. If they bring in Cammy and others to help support their current cast, then its agreable they couldnt sign Perry because you mentioned they would use said cast to win the cup. Problem is, if this were to happen, they could no longer trade Perry and would have to HOPE that he doesnt walk.

So, although this could potentially increase your odds at winning the cup, you shouldnt possibly sacrifice a guy like Perry. Either find a way to sign him or trade away his rights for pieces you can afford to keep, which may consequently also help your cup run.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Plus, if it's a dollars thing, I think they would be silly to have Cammy at 6 over Perry at say 8.5. But Perry is obviously looking for an 7 or 8 year term. So that could be what the problem is.

YOU ARE SO MISSING THE POINT!! "IF" they know already that Perry wants to go to another team, likely closer to Ontario, and they feel they have a chance to win it all, trade a pick and prospect or 2 for Cammi to improve the chances of a cup this year. Then you have Perry and Cammi for a PO run.

Then "when" Perry leaves, hopefully after a cup championship, they have a cup and another top 6 goal scoring forward to fill in. That would soften the blow of lossing Perry.

Again I reiterate, they should only make a move like this "IF" they already know that Perry won't sign in ANA again.

Get it. Your killing me O-G!
- TandA4Flames

Haha I understand what you are trying to say. I just don't see the reasoning behind it at all. Cammy isn't cheap, Glencross I could see!

Although I see your point, you dont let a guy like Perry just walk in order to possibly increase your odds at winning the cup. If they bring in Cammy and others to help support their current cast, then its agreable they couldnt sign Perry because you mentioned they would use said cast to win the cup. Problem is, if this were to happen, they could no longer trade Perry and would have to HOPE that he doesnt walk.

So, although this could potentially increase your odds at winning the cup, you shouldnt possibly sacrifice a guy like Perry. Either find a way to sign him or trade away his rights for pieces you can afford to keep, which may consequently also help your cup run.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Colin, are you saying if you looked to have a GREAT chance at a Stanley Cup you would trade away one of your key cogs at the deadline because he may walk after you've won the cup, likely eliminating your best chance at the cup?

NJ kept Parise last year knowing he would likely walk. They didn't win but they made it to the finals.

Haha I understand what you are trying to say. I just don't see the reasoning behind it at all. Cammy isn't cheap, Glencross I could see!
- The-O-G

But Glencross isn't available

Colin, are you saying if you looked to have a GREAT chance at a Stanley Cup you would trade away one of your key cogs at the deadline because he may walk after you've won the cup, likely eliminating your best chance at the cup?

NJ kept Parise last year knowing he would likely walk. They didn't win but they made it to the finals.
- TandA4Flames

Too risky. Your odds are stronger with Perry, but chances are you keep the guy dont win and he walks. Call it glass half empty but you cant make short term decisions like that. Must always plan for the now and later. While Perry is a large part of their success, he is also just one man. If they felt their odds were great at going for the cup this year, and they couldnt find a budget for Perry, then they will need to shop him for the greatest return. If, and only if, the return is not worth the transaction...then I suppose they have no other choice but to roll with him.

After Getzlaf received such a large price tag, he likely wont be taking a home town discount. The Ducks have too many guys they need to re-up and Perry will need (at the very least) 8.5M per. For that cap hit, they could afford to bring in two guys to help supplement the load and some picks if needed. Imo, its either trade or sign with a guy like Perry. He hits free agency, hes getting all kinds of offers.

Too risky. Your odds are stronger with Perry, but chances are you keep the guy dont win and he walks. Call it glass half empty but you cant make short term decisions like that. Must always plan for the now and later. While Perry is a large part of their success, he is also just one man. If they felt their odds were great at going for the cup this year, and they couldnt find a budget for Perry, then they will need to shop him for the greatest return. If, and only if, the return is not worth the transaction...then I suppose they have no other choice but to roll with him.

After Getzlaf received such a large price tag, he likely wont be taking a home town discount. The Ducks have too many guys they need to re-up and Perry will need (at the very least) 8.5M per. For that cap hit, they could afford to bring in two guys to help supplement the load and some picks if needed. Imo, its either trade or sign with a guy like Perry. He hits free agency, hes getting all kinds of offers.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Agreed. Offer him the identical deal to Getz. Let him know if he doesnt sign by TDD then he will be gone. Then its in his court. If he comes back with a counter, at least you know he is interested in staying. If you hear nothing from him then you know he will test the waters regardless. Take the best offer and move on.

Too risky. Your odds are stronger with Perry, but chances are you keep the guy dont win and he walks. Call it glass half empty but you cant make short term decisions like that. Must always plan for the now and later. While Perry is a large part of their success, he is also just one man. If they felt their odds were great at going for the cup this year, and they couldnt find a budget for Perry, then they will need to shop him for the greatest return. If, and only if, the return is not worth the transaction...then I suppose they have no other choice but to roll with him.

After Getzlaf received such a large price tag, he likely wont be taking a home town discount. The Ducks have too many guys they need to re-up and Perry will need (at the very least) 8.5M per. For that cap hit, they could afford to bring in two guys to help supplement the load and some picks if needed. Imo, its either trade or sign with a guy like Perry. He hits free agency, hes getting all kinds of offers.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I agree it's a very difficult place for ANA to be in. If they sucked like last year the decision is easy to trade him. But being this good this year, I don't know how you can blow a chance at a cup by trading perhaps your best player away. Yea, you would have to see what kind of return you could get for him, but given that he is a UFA to be, I don't think you are getting anything better to help win the cup this year. Not to mention, other teams would likely be concerned moreso that you are trying to trade him instead of keeping him for your own run. Given the position ANA is in, 2nd best in the league I believe, I think in the end they should keep him and go for it and try to make moves to help that run with maybe a look to the immediate future as well.

Agreed. Offer him the identical deal to Getz. Let him know if he doesnt sign by TDD then he will be gone. Then its in his court. If he comes back with a counter, at least you know he is interested in staying. If you hear nothing from him then you know he will test the waters regardless. Take the best offer and move on.
- Iggysbff

We are getting away from my original point which was- If Anaheim already knows they are going to lose him; Perry and/or his agent have already said "we won't resign under any circumstance"

So what do YOU do? Keep him, add some depth pieces and go for it. Or do you trade him for a rentals return (picks and prospects) and effectively ruin your Stanley cup hopes.

And for arguements sake, let's just say that he has already said no to a sign and trade scenario.

I agree it's a very difficult place for ANA to be in. If they sucked like last year the decision is easy to trade him. But being this good this year, I don't know how you can blow a chance at a cup by trading perhaps your best player away. Yea, you would have to see what kind of return you could get for him, but given that he is a UFA to be, I don't think you are getting anything better to help win the cup this year. Not to mention, other teams would likely be concerned moreso that you are trying to trade him instead of keeping him for your own run. Given the position ANA is in, 2nd best in the league I believe, I think in the end they should keep him and go for it and try to make moves to help that run with maybe a look to the immediate future as well.
- TandA4Flames

You want a chance at a cup run? Alright then....

Perry + Souray

for

Iginla + Giordano + Prospect


Now hear me out. The Ducks are getting rid of two more years of an ageing Souray for three more years of Giordano. They are moving Perry for Iginla and a prospect as neither have discussed terms for a contract yet. Iginla can offer the Ducks two more years of cup runs and Perry can help restablish a younger core in Calgary. The Flames would need to throw in a higher level prospect for Perry however, but this way the Ducks can afford to take on Iginla for the remainder of the season and resign him to something more cap friendly next year.

Doubt very much this would go down...but something SIMILAR to this (could) make sense...at least so I think.

We are getting away from my original point which was- If Anaheim already knows they are going to lose him; Perry and/or his agent have already said "we won't resign under any circumstance"

So what do YOU do? Keep him, add some depth pieces and go for it. Or do you trade him for a rentals return (picks and prospects) and effectively ruin your Stanley cup hopes.

And for arguements sake, let's just say that he has already said no to a sign and trade scenario.
- TandA4Flames

I trade him. I open the market early, and I create the biggest bidding war possible. My job as the GM is to look after the best interests of my ownership group, not just for this season, but also going forward.

A cup run is great, but you're not guaranteeing playoff success by keeping him. If you fail to realize playoff success, and you lose an asset for nothing, you hurt the value and the viability of your club. That's how GM's get fired.

We are getting away from my original point which was- If Anaheim already knows they are going to lose him; Perry and/or his agent have already said "we won't resign under any circumstance"

So what do YOU do? Keep him, add some depth pieces and go for it. Or do you trade him for a rentals return (picks and prospects) and effectively ruin your Stanley cup hopes.

And for arguements sake, let's just say that he has already said no to a sign and trade scenario.
- TandA4Flames

I dont think you let a Hart Trophy winner walk away for nothing. Looking at all the last few Cup winners and how they got there, I say trade him.

The reason the Ducks are where they are? Fasth. If Perry wont re up, trade him and do your best to ride your hot goalie to the cup. LA did it. Boston did it. It's a gamble, but its an even bigger gamble to let him go for nothing.

You want a chance at a cup run? Alright then....

Perry + Souray

for

Iginla + Giordano + Prospect


Now hear me out. The Ducks are getting rid of two more years of an ageing Souray for three more years of Giordano. They are moving Perry for Iginla and a prospect as neither have discussed terms for a contract yet. Iginla can offer the Ducks two more years of cup runs and Perry can help restablish a younger core in Calgary. The Flames would need to throw in a higher level prospect for Perry however, but this way the Ducks can afford to take on Iginla for the remainder of the season and resign him to something more cap friendly next year.

Doubt very much this would go down...but something SIMILAR to this (could) make sense...at least so I think.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Souray has a no trade/no move

You want a chance at a cup run? Alright then....

Perry + Souray

for

Iginla + Giordano + Prospect


Now hear me out. The Ducks are getting rid of two more years of an ageing Souray for three more years of Giordano. They are moving Perry for Iginla and a prospect as neither have discussed terms for a contract yet. Iginla can offer the Ducks two more years of cup runs and Perry can help restablish a younger core in Calgary. The Flames would need to throw in a higher level prospect for Perry however, but this way the Ducks can afford to take on Iginla for the remainder of the season and resign him to something more cap friendly next year.

Doubt very much this would go down...but something SIMILAR to this (could) make sense...at least so I think.
- Colin Dambrauskas

If I'm Feaster, I don't touch this with a ten-foot pole.

There's too much uncertainty surrounding Perry. Why would he re-sign in Calgary? What do we have to offer that Anaheim doesn't? Are we going to pay him 9.5 a year? Is that even enough to forgo the opportunity to play in Toronto, or Montreal, or Boston, or Philly? Especially when most of those teams will probably offer him very similar money on July 1?