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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:24 AM ET
Hypothetically speaking, if the Flyers finish with the 8th worst overall record in the NHL, I fully expect them to pick 14th.

If Holmgren trades the first round pick, the team who gets it will pick in the top 3.

Lead pipe, great white shark, african lion, cashmere, lock.

- PLindbergh31


really stretchin' it out today.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
last night I saw a player (Rinaldo) get 2 and 10 for charging the boards. now I see this:

http://aol.sportingnews.c...sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D281872

gotta love the officiating sometimes

- nastyflyergirl


This wasn't charging this was a Rinaldoing call. Plain and simple... Yeah I was miffed.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
I think if you finished with the 8th worst record, the worst you could pick would be 9th, if I understand correctly.
- NickTheKid87


Oh ok. I misunderstood.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Mar 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
Gagne-Giroux-Simmonds
Hartnell-Read-Voracek
Briere-Schenn-Talbot
Rusty-Cooter-Rinaldo

I want Lava to try these lines so bad. I think we should be stacking the center position and I really wish there was a way to have Briere there because I HATE Briere on the wing, but I think these lines would be something worth trying.

-Giroux gets a pure shooter in Gagne, can focus on just getting the puck to the other two instead of trying to do everything. Let him have faith in the other two's ability to finish

-Jake on the second line gives him two natural goal scorers to find in open ice

-Third line is essentially formed by default, and a fine one at that

-Cooter, who's not doing a ton of scoring anyway, brings size and stability to the 4 line C position

Allows us to roll four lines consistently if need be, and I also wouldn't mind seeing Zac on a higher line as he's really coming into his own as an agitator-type player to the point where he's realizing he can produce in all aspects when give the responsibility.

Thoughts?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
really stretchin' it out today.
- hammarby31




Threw that in for you. You know the significance of the Great White Shark, and the African Lion?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
did they change the rules?....I thought a team who wins the lottery could only move up a max of 5 draft positions. NJ won the lottery a few years back and moved up to like 8th or 9th...
- Pyzik

yes, the rules changed
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 11 @ 10:26 AM ET
did they change the rules?....I thought a team who wins the lottery could only move up a max of 5 draft positions. NJ won the lottery a few years back and moved up to like 8th or 9th...
- Pyzik


The rule was changed. All non playoff teams will be eligible to win the draft lottery which is now the #1 overall pick.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
Oh ok. I misunderstood.
- PLindbergh31


Don't hold me to that though because I'm not 100% certain. I'm only "pretty sure".
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
The first Buffalo goal came about at the end of an extended sequence in which the Flyers had too few players on the ice (Danny Briere went off on a line change, Claude Giroux didn't come on)
- bmeltzer

So, who's fault is that? How does that even happen?

These inept line changes have probably cost a half dozen goals this year.

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 11 @ 10:31 AM ET
So, who's fault is that? How does that even happen?

These inept line changes have probably cost a half dozen goals this year.

- FlyerGuy


its also cost them a couple of games and the playoffs last year.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 11 @ 10:32 AM ET
A friend of mine the other day compared Briere to the groundhog who saw his shadow and has decided that playoffs aren't here yet so he'd just hide in his hole. I could only shake my head as it was appropriate. And it made me sad.
yinzer_nation
Location: Acceptance
Joined: 02.28.2013

Mar 11 @ 10:33 AM ET
wed's game will be pivotal. nice win last night against john scott and his munchkin friends.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 11 @ 10:37 AM ET
wed's game will be pivotal. nice win last night against john scott and his munchkin friends.
- yinzer_nation

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 11 @ 10:38 AM ET
quick who is better -> Rasmus Ristolainen or darnell nurse?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 11 @ 10:39 AM ET
Flyers Nation ‏@FlyersNation
Ilya Bryzgalov has more assists (3) than Jeff Carter (2).

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:40 AM ET


Threw that in for you. You know the significance of the Great White Shark, and the African Lion?

- PLindbergh31


i have no clue. do tell.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 11 @ 10:41 AM ET
quick who is better -> Rasmus Ristolainen or darnell nurse?
- Philly1980

Seth Jones
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
Flyers Nation ‏@FlyersNation
Ilya Bryzgalov has more assists (3) than Jeff Carter (2).


- Philly1980


that's truly unbelievable.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
Seth Jones
- mayorofangrytown

FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 11 @ 10:44 AM ET
Flyers Nation ‏@FlyersNation
Ilya Bryzgalov has more assists (3) than Jeff Carter (2).


- Philly1980


You don't get assists for missing empty nets...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 11 @ 10:45 AM ET
quick who is better -> Rasmus Ristolainen or darnell nurse?
- Philly1980

i believe risto is rated higher...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
So, who's fault is that? How does that even happen?

These inept line changes have probably cost a half dozen goals this year.

- FlyerGuy



I put that on G.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
The coach's "system" has worked in the past why isn't it working now?
- Dkos



His system is a system that needs two things. The proper mix of players. And it needs to have a very high level of effort, energy, and skating to be effective. It's very difficult for any team to play that way long term. That is why it is sink or swim with Laviolette. Most good Coaches are adaptable and make adjustments to their personel. And the best systems are multi faceted. Laviolette's is not. There is only one element to it that is key. And that is ultra aggressive posture all over ther ice, especially on the forecheck. This team can't play that way and the players know it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
When will Scott Hartnell get his timing back?

Since his return:

8 GP, 1 G, 2 A, 3 Pts, -2

He registered as many hits last night as I did.

- johndewar


Yeah he's been noticeably a step or two late for everything
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 11 @ 10:49 AM ET
i believe risto is rated higher...
- isaiah520


he is and the kid has sick hands...every mock draft though has nurse coming to philly lol...we gotta suck more to move up a little.
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