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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:06 PM ET
Brayden Schenn has shown what though? Prone to being injured, inconsistent in his own zone and a lack of effort throughout stretches.

Read is in his 2nd NHL season, and has shown he can carry the team beign thrown up and down the lineup. He plays resposible hockey, and fills a wing position the organization is lacking in.

Read might not have the shine sorrounding him thet Brayden Schenn does, but Read is far more of a valuable player, and more than anything has shown more initiative in having a consistent complete game than Brayden Schenn has.

- flyer_nutter


Read is also about 5 years older. B Schenn is only 21. He stays.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
If we are trading Lava because the team has tuned him out was that also not the case with Hitch and Stevens?

If they fire him because they want a coach that will improve the D-game and improve player accountability so be it. I just dont want the players given some idea that any of their play has been acceptable. The veterans to be even more specific, or even younger guys who have a decent amount of NHL game experience, should not require someone to kiss their ass to get them motivated.

- flyer_nutter


For me, it is about defensive positioning in their own zone. Bryz hasn't been spectacular, but I look at the Devils defense and the Flyers as very similiar. Decent not elite talent, but the Flyers allow teams way too easy access to get to quality scoring chances on the ice way too often. There are way too many times guys are open in the slot, breakaways, and guys left open in front.


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
Read is also about 5 years older. B Schenn is only 21. He stays.
- wolfhounds


Read has less "big game" experience then Schenn. Probably even less NHL experience but I'm not going to look it up.

Its just a personal thing, but if I am more likely to keep a player it is a guy like Read.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:11 PM ET
and Thorton didn't do too well against John Scott the other night..
- opeth_pa


Cause there isn't a significant size difference there...
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
Cause there isn't a significant size difference there...
- wolfhounds


sorry I didn't see the tale of the tape
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
For me, it is about defensive positioning in their own zone. Bryz hasn't been spectacular, but I look at the Devils defense and the Flyers as very similiar. Decent not elite talent, but the Flyers allow teams way too easy access to get to quality scoring chances on the ice way too often. There are way too many times guys are open in the slot, breakaways, and guys left open in front.
- ravishingone


Regarding the Flyers D-zone coverage.

A lot of factors in play. If Bryzgalov makes a big save, mistakes aren't exposed as easily. The Devils do not have a great D on paper, but they also have not had to employ 2/3 retards on the back end. Foster, Gervais and Guss wouldnt sniff the ice for most NHL teams.

When those guys are on the ice, even with a better partner they are outmatched. The Flyers D is also below average in being able to skate the puck up the ice, or transition with creativity.

The forward coverage is poor, and that really gives the team no chance. If the other team is allowed to sneak guys in without any coverage that is trouble for any D core. Flyer forwards need to be more aware of what is going on around them, and when they are not feebly skate back or wave their stick.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
Cause there isn't a significant size difference there...
- Rayven


Yup..just like Thorton vs Rinaldo.

Im just cranky cause my team is getting owned..
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:14 PM ET
Yup..just like Thorton vs Rinaldo.

Im just cranky cause my team is getting owned..

- opeth_pa


no worries I get it
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 9 @ 6:14 PM ET
Why is this blog future dated from 3/9/2015? I guess Lava will still be the coach here in 2 years.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 9 @ 6:17 PM ET
Why is this blog future dated from 3/9/2015? I guess Lava will still be the coach here in 2 years.
- Flyskippy

He's gone by tonight so Ruff can coach against his former team.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 9 @ 6:19 PM ET
He's gone by tonight so Ruff can coach against his former team.
- coffee junkie

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:22 PM ET

- Flyskippy


In a sick and twisted way wouldn't you find it a little funny?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:23 PM ET
Read has less "big game" experience then Schenn. Probably even less NHL experience but I'm not going to look it up.

Its just a personal thing, but if I am more likely to keep a player it is a guy like Read.

- flyer_nutter


I hear ya. And I like Read, don't think he should be traded. But I also like Schenn and don't think he should go anywhere either, at least not this year because of this crap season.

Schenn was playing much better when he was paired with Jake. Let's face it, playing with Briere right now isn't going to make anyone better, and Simmonds doesn't do much outside the PP.

Schenn likes to throw the body, which I like. If he can turn into a solid faceoff man and chip in 15, 20, 25 goals consistently, I'm good with that...depending, of course, on his salary.

Edit: He does need to get better defensively though. Him and Simmonds should go to some D bootcamp or something this summer.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:23 PM ET
He didn't fare too well against Thornton today
- Rayven

40lbs and 4inches
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:25 PM ET
40lbs and 4inches
- KINGKENZO


I didn't realize Rinaldo was that short

edit: still has 4" on me
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:33 PM ET
I didn't realize Rinaldo was that short

edit: still has 4" on me

- Rayven


But like Rinaldo, you're probably scrappy.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:35 PM ET
But like Rinaldo, you're probably scrappy.
- wolfhounds


indEEd
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 9 @ 6:39 PM ET
Lindy Ruff...............thoughts......
- ob18

You'll have to remind me of his Stanley Cup winning seasons, I don't recall them.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 9 @ 6:40 PM ET
In a sick and twisted way wouldn't you find it a little funny?
- flyer_nutter

If it didn't infuriate me.
Hatchet
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 9 @ 6:41 PM ET
It gets even better:

DNFlyers Michael Leighton is on his way to Philadelphia, according to @dianacnearhos. Why?? Could he be starting tomorrow?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 6:41 PM ET
You'll have to remind me of his Stanley Cup winning seasons, I don't recall them.
- bodiva88


So is that a needed criteria or do we go after who might be the best fit?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Mar 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
It gets even better:

DNFlyers Michael Leighton is on his way to Philadelphia, according to @dianacnearhos. Why?? Could he be starting tomorrow?

- Hatchet


Holmgren wants to extend him for another year because he's good in the locker room.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 6:47 PM ET
Holmgren wants to extend him for another year because he's good in the locker room.
- Flyers_01


You sure Snider didn't tell him to do that?
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 9 @ 6:54 PM ET
Braydon Coburn and Kimmo Timonen are #1 and #2 respectively in most minor penalties taken in the league.
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