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FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
Seriously? This game is (frank)ing over man, at least someone is showing some emotion on this garbage team.
- Yosimar89

thought a penalty was coming up on the B's ... my bad.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
clarke trophy: zac rinaldo
- FlyerMike18


Should be the only team award they give out this year.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
Good quote from Dustin Leed on twitter:

Do you build around coaches' system, or do you build around players on the ice? Because Philly failed at both. And it equaled trades.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
How is that not a Powerplay?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
Honestly Rinaldo is the only player that even appears to be trying.
- opeth_pa


I still have no idea why he didn't play more in the Pitt game.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
No doubt, I'll root for him elsewhere because I loved his style here. It's just not the style this team needs, apparently. Heck, I liked Hitch but not as much as Lava.
- Flyskippy


I don't think it helps to make mid season coaching changes. If you do, probably the best option is to let an Assistant Coach take over. I am a big fan of Holmgren and disagree with those who think he is a problem.

But for those of you who desperately want a change, the solution is to fire both the GM and Coach at 4:30 this afternoon and to hire Brian Burke and Lindy Ruff at 4:45.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:28 PM ET
The GM job isn't to get the players to player fundamental hockey at a level attributable to an NHL team. There are worse assembled teams doing better.
- JoeRussomanno

Agree; agree. But the GM needs to get the mix right. This team has some very talented players but also weaknesses that weren't addressed. I know, I know most teams have weaknesses. Getting this current group to play better even a lot better won't be enough in my opinion.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:28 PM ET
Exactly. Can't have every player that's tuned him out skating with these:


- Flyskippy



Last years models. These are more state of the art.

FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:29 PM ET
Should be the only team award they give out this year.
- tangent_man


i'd give the ashbee trophy to chris pronger
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
Here is Thornton's last fight, for anyone interested.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
Agree; agree. But the GM needs to get the mix right. This team has some very talented players but also weaknesses that weren't addressed. I know, I know most teams have weaknesses. Getting this current group to play better even a lot better won't be enough in my opinion.
- 2731color


Conversely, the coach needs to adjust his system to fit his roster. What if it was injuries and not a failed acquisition of Weber?

The Flyers are poorly coached. There's no discipline, no accountability and they can't adjust to beat disciplined teams. That stuff is largely a matter of coaching
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
thought a penalty was coming up on the B's ... my bad.
- FlyerGuy


Clearly should have been.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
just saw the score, ouch
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
Conversely, the coach needs to adjust his system to fit his roster. What if it was injuries and not a failed acquisition of Weber?

The Flyers are poorly coached. There's no discipline, no accountability and they can't adjust to beat disciplined teams. That stuff is largely a matter of coaching

- Jsaquella


I believe they are fundamentally a good team with great young talent. There are a few missing key pieces. But this is a sophomore slump after they over achieved last year.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yeah kinda sad that the Flyers best skater is Rinaldo.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
just saw the score, ouch
- mydoglicks


3 goals leads are insurmountable. Just ask the Penguins.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
just saw the score, ouch
- mydoglicks


No need to tune into this massacre
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
9 SOG's down by 3...
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
I believe they are fundamentally a good team with great young talent. There are a few missing key pieces. But this is a sophomore slump after they over achieved last year.
- spatso


Yup. A coach can teach, but it's up to players to execute.

The idea that Lavi is a good coach who doesn't make adjustments is a bit absurd. How can he be both?

The players can, however, be tuning him out.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:39 PM ET
I believe they are fundamentally a good team with great young talent. There are a few missing key pieces. But this is a sophomore slump after they over achieved last year.
- spatso


It is a slump to an extent, but there's also a huge lack of discipline, guys aren't being held accountable and the adjustments to a revamped roster haven't been made or simply are not effective.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
briere, Talbot and couturier are pretty much useless this season.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
God help me, but I'm actually hoping Terry Murray is the coach by tomorrow.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
mmm, weak cross-ice backhand pass...always a good idea.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
So what do you think fellas?...I like Lavy a lot and love his system but one has to wonder how much better this team would be with a more defensive minded system. This team has too much talent to play this poorly, they have definitely regressed that's for sure. If this continues hopefully the Flyers can find new homes for Briere and Timmo granted obviously they wave the NTC. I'm thinking they might as long as its a contender.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
It is a slump to an extent, but there's also a huge lack of discipline, guys aren't being held accountable and the adjustments to a revamped roster haven't been made or simply are not effective.
- Jsaquella


Big disappointment. Something needs to be done.
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