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Which every Leaf fan would do in a heart beat. I prefer not to post trades like that as people start screaming im a crazy leaf fan offering spare parts for a hart trophy winner .... - Holy_Makinaw99
the difference is murray is much smarter than howson and i doubt he gets hosed in any deal like columbus did. |
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I thought contracts were limited to 6 years now - Alexzanki
Seven years but teams can go to 8 for their own players. |
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Which every Leaf fan would do in a heart beat. I prefer not to post trades like that as people start screaming im a crazy leaf fan offering spare parts for a hart trophy winner .... - Holy_Makinaw99
Bozak, check
Kulemin, check
Gardiner, HELL NO
Franson/Blacker/Percy, check
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anaheim would NEVER do that deal.
bozak is a UFA this year (and will want a raise), kulemin next year (and he's been an average player AT BEST the last 2 years)....and they just got rid of gardiner, not sure they'd want him back - sensarmy_11
im just saying those players are similar players to what columbus received for nash.
I think it will cost a ton to get perry but any deal will be predicated on him resigning. |
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Glad Anaheim was able to get that done to lock up a core guy but wow, $8.25MM is some big money. With Koivu, Selanne and Perry all set for UFA this summer the Ducks might need to replace some top-six talent. However, they still have $19MM under next year's cap so they should be able to maneuver it. I still think that price is awfully high. - Glen Miller
it's actually pretty much on par (give or take a tad) with other legit top line centers
spezza, richards, crosby, malkin, kopitar, thornton, etc
it might be a little higher, but bear in mind that those other guys were signed under a CBA that allowed teams to circumvent the cap.
all things considered, it's a pretty good deal. he would have gotten AT LEAST that on the open market. |
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the difference is murray is much smarter than howson and i doubt he gets hosed in any deal like columbus did. - sens rock
I don't agree that Columbus got "hosed." Yes, Nash is far better than any player Columbus got but the Jackets got two solid NHL top-nine forwards, a future top-four D plus a first round pick. That deal was probably the best they could make under the circumstances and both teams will benefit from it. They took the quantity over the quality and right now they have a team that plays hard every night. |
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I don't agree that Columbus got "hosed." Yes, Nash is far better than any player Columbus got but the Jackets got two solid NHL top-nine forwards, a future top-four D plus a first round pick. That deal was probably the best they could make under the circumstances and both teams will benefit from it. They took the quantity over the quality and right now they have a team that plays hard every night. - Glen Miller
i agree with this. howson made a ton of awful moves in his time as GM, but i don't think the nash deal was one of them.
considering the limits he had to work with, he actually got some quality players back, and he's no longer stuck with that AWFUL contract. |
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it's actually pretty much on par (give or take a tad) with other legit top line centers
spezza, richards, crosby, malkin, kopitar, thornton, etc
it might be a little higher, but bear in mind that those other guys were signed under a CBA that allowed teams to circumvent the cap.
all things considered, it's a pretty good deal. he would have gotten AT LEAST that on the open market. - sensarmy_11
I think it's the sticker shock. We just suffered through another lockout where many owners expressed the need to suppress the rising player salaries in order to remain viable and then this. I agree it is in line with what other top Centers make and he probably would have found similar offers on the open market but still, it's more than I expected a player re-signing with his own team to get in the current climate with next year's cap going down. |
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i agree with this. howson made a ton of awful moves in his time as GM, but i don't think the nash deal was one of them.
considering the limits he had to work with, he actually got some quality players back, and he's no longer stuck with that AWFUL contract. - sensarmy_11
Having seen Nash this year with the Rangers and given what we saw with Getzlaf, I wouldn't say the Nash contract is that awful. He has been dominant most nights for New York. It's been easy to see why so many people have described him as an elite talent. He is by far the best forward with the Rangers; easily better than Gaborik and Richards. |
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Having seen Nash this year with the Rangers and given what we saw with Getzlaf, I wouldn't say the Nash contract is that awful. He has been dominant most nights for New York. It's been easy to see why so many people have described him as an elite talent. He is by far the best forward with the Rangers; easily better than Gaborik and Richards. - Glen Miller
fair enough. it's somewhat justified when he's in new york, and surrounded by other superstars. it was ABSOLUTELY not justified in columbus
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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 06.20.2012
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Good move. You do not let a player like him walk |
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Might be tough to secure Perry now given that youll have around $20M in projected cap space next year and 8 guys to sign...a few of which needing bonuses. |
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i'm sorry, i have to.......getzlaf bald joke of the day
@yyjordan "If Ryan Getzlaf doesn't live up to that contrat there's going to be hell toupee" |
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Might be tough to secure Perry now given that youll have around $20M in projected cap space next year and 8 guys to sign...a few of which needing bonuses. - Colin Dambrauskas
plus the fact that they seem to have an internal cap to work within |
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fair enough. it's somewhat justified when he's in new york, and surrounded by other superstars. it was ABSOLUTELY not justified in columbus - sensarmy_11
I also believe he's been energized moving to New York where he is finally playing for a team with high expectations. Perhaps the constant losing and then the drama with Carter weighed heavily on his play last year in Columbus. I think things would have been different had Columbus drafted and developed some of their high draft picks better. They drafted a lot of talented players after NAsh (Zherdev, Filatov, Brassard) but none developed the way they hoped. That left Nash being the guy in Columbus and the franchise forced to overpay to get him some help via trade and free agency. Not a good recipe for success at all.
This year they have no one as The Guy and are doing a good job milking contributions from everyone in the lineup and playing hard each and every night. They will still lose a lot of low scoring, one goal games but there is a different feel around the organization now. Certainly the Nash trade was in many ways the catalyst for this change. Now it's up to JD and Kekalainen to take the organization further with the opportunity they have now. |
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plus the fact that they seem to have an internal cap to work within - sensarmy_11
So it has been reported. I could see ANA looking to move Perry for a few players/prospects to even out their salaried roster. Just a thought. |
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So it has been reported. I could see ANA looking to move Perry for a few players/prospects to even out their salaried roster. Just a thought. - Colin Dambrauskas
ottawa has LOTS of those |
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Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB Joined: 01.23.2013
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Nobody wants to sign in Toronto.. Not Perry,Not Clowe.. Nobody!!!
You guys haven't gotten a good UFA in a long time. |
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Nobody wants to sign in Toronto.. Not Perry,Not Clowe.. Nobody!!!
You guys haven't gotten a good UFA in a long time. - Erik6Karlsson5
lol, careful now, neither have we |
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Compeyson
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: That one place, NV Joined: 06.28.2011
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only. Joined: 12.15.2010
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correct. they have an internal cap so they need to spread the money around accordingly. Signing Getzlaf is 100% the right move as finding his replacement is much harder than finding one for Perry. - sens rock
Exactly.
They have Peter Hollnd as a C prospect, but nothing else.
On wing, they have Emerson Etem, Max Friberg, and Devante Smith-Pelly all looking like surefire top 9 wingers, plus Bobby Ryan and Kyle Palmieri a the NHL level on early-career deals.
The ducks can be a good team without Perry, but they're lost without Getz. |
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TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only. Joined: 12.15.2010
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Getzlaf is the center that everyone wants. The big physical #1. I'm just shocked he didn't give much of a discount to the team he wanted to stay with. - Lahey
Yeah, it's odd, he basically priced the team out of being able to resign Perry...
Then again, they're good friends, maybe he knows Corey wants to move closer to home... |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Yeah, it's odd, he basically priced the team out of being able to resign Perry...
Then again, they're good friends, maybe he knows Corey wants to move closer to home... - TommyDeVito
I just think he priced the team out of being able to compete going forward. Which really I don't know that he cares. He got his ring. |
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