Overpayment homer.
- StayTunedMTC

Right....

Consistent PPG player, proven winner, proven playoff performer. True #1 NHL center which can be a hard thing to find. Does that not sound worth a decent contract?

Obviously it is probably more than the Ducks would ideally like to pay. But in REALITY he would have gotten similar offers as an UFA. Either pay players market value or watch them walk.

This is in the Hall of Fame dumbest posts I've ever seen on Hockeybuzz, congratulations.
- S Kaspar Rollins

But logically if 2 flames fans think it is a dumb post then it must be a great idea. Simple logic. All I need now is a leafs fan to say it sucks and it has the official stamp.

If anyone wants to have a better crack at what the 3 way trade would be that includes the ducks sending getzlaf somewhere in a trade that includes toronto, be my guest. I am just playing with the tools I was given. Logically the Oilers GM is too stupid to trade anyone so it is not going to happen but I am trying to fit needs.

St Louis would be a great trading partner but the problem is, I have no idea who they are willing to part with to get that top 4 dman and i don't think they would take Phaneufs contract. Toronto in theory could keep Phaneuf and Getzlaf but that is a huge amount of their budget on two guys and Toronto is rich on d.

- Scooby_Doo

Another post you have put a lot of thought into.

But logically if 2 flames fans think it is a dumb post then it must be a great idea. Simple logic. All I need now is a leafs fan to say it sucks and it has the official stamp.

If anyone wants to have a better crack at what the 3 way trade would be that includes the ducks sending getzlaf somewhere in a trade that includes toronto, be my guest. I am just playing with the tools I was given. Logically the Oilers GM is too stupid to trade anyone so it is not going to happen but I am trying to fit needs.

St Louis would be a great trading partner but the problem is, I have no idea who they are willing to part with to get that top 4 dman and i don't think they would take Phaneufs contract. Toronto in theory could keep Phaneuf and Getzlaf but that is a huge amount of their budget on two guys and Toronto is rich on d.
- bsteinley

I'm hearing the Getzlaf deal has a no movement clause also.

If you think they just signed him to an 8 year deal just to trade him you are living in a fantasy world.

I'm hearing the Getzlaf deal has a no movement clause also.

If you think they just signed him to an 8 year deal just to trade him you are living in a fantasy world.
- niedermayer27

I am just going with the previous posts that it is a sign and trade. I know they have no intention of trading him but I was playing along.

I'm hearing the Getzlaf deal has a no movement clause also.

If you think they just signed him to an 8 year deal just to trade him you are living in a fantasy world.
- niedermayer27

Oh so he's a Calgary Flame then?

I just re-newed my subscription cause I thought Getzlaf was on the block possibily to Toronto. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!


Just joking

Ohhhh no look what's on TV, LUUUUUUUUUUUUCAS with the helicopter parents

Ohhhh no look what's on TV, LUUUUUUUUUUUUCAS with the helicopter parents

- GCHonda

Someone banned me...Why, dammit, why?

Right....

Consistent PPG player, proven winner, proven playoff performer. True #1 NHL center which can be a hard thing to find. Does that not sound worth a decent contract?

Obviously it is probably more than the Ducks would ideally like to pay. But in REALITY he would have gotten similar offers as an UFA. Either pay players market value or watch them walk.
- niedermayer27

Overpayment doesn't equate to market value imo.

If I'm not mistaken, he got a max deal. I don't think he's the best C in the league by far, even though he is a great C, so personally I don't think a max deal is fair market value.

That lost half of a season was a farce.

But logically if 2 flames fans think it is a dumb post then it must be a great idea. Simple logic. All I need now is a leafs fan to say it sucks and it has the official stamp.

If anyone wants to have a better crack at what the 3 way trade would be that includes the ducks sending getzlaf somewhere in a trade that includes toronto, be my guest. I am just playing with the tools I was given. Logically the Oilers GM is too stupid to trade anyone so it is not going to happen but I am trying to fit needs.

St Louis would be a great trading partner but the problem is, I have no idea who they are willing to part with to get that top 4 dman and i don't think they would take Phaneufs contract. Toronto in theory could keep Phaneuf and Getzlaf but that is a huge amount of their budget on two guys and Toronto is rich on d.
- bsteinley

Why are you so certain this is going to happen?

Someone banned me...Why, dammit, why?
- Flyfreaky

I wish someone would ban LUUUUUUUUUUUUUCAS

Overpayment doesn't equate to market value imo.

If I'm not mistaken, he got a max deal. I don't think he's the best C in the league by far, even though he is a great C, so personally I don't think a max deal is fair market value.

That lost half of a season was a farce.
- StayTunedMTC

Well he's getting paid Syd money & he aint no Syd. Actually his stats have been over in-flated playing with Perry. Better he didn't come to TO or else he would have been exposed as not being a great center. He's good, don't get me wrong but he's not great, he's over paid.

at that money id rather wait another year or so and let Kadri be the no1

at that money id rather wait another year or so and let Kadri be the no1
- PinkSock

What Getzlaf got was ridiculous. Glad he's staying where he is.

Well he's getting paid Syd money & he aint no Syd. Actually his stats have been over in-flated playing with Perry. Better he didn't come to TO or else he would have been exposed as not being a great center. He's good, don't get me wrong but he's not great, he's over paid.
- GCHonda

Yup. I agree.

I've had this pic on my phone for a while now... but I was driving around town one day and I found out where Ek lives. He's lied this whole time. He's not in the Philly area, he is actually in the Portland, Oregon area. Here is proof.

Ton of Eastern scouts at the Flames-Ducks game tonight btw.

I'm going to assume that Perry and Iginla are well known enough commodities to not require in-person scouting, but let's make up some other rumors based on this.

Ton of Eastern scouts at the Flames-Ducks game tonight btw.

I'm going to assume that Perry and Iginla are well known enough commodities to not require in-person scouting, but let's make up some other rumors based on this.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Porn convention in LA (E4)

Ton of Eastern scouts at the Flames-Ducks game tonight btw.

I'm going to assume that Perry and Iginla are well known enough commodities to not require in-person scouting, but let's make up some other rumors based on this.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Imagine if the B's get Iggy???? May aswell just hand Boston the Eastern Conf title now & just forget the season & the 1st 3 rounds of the playoffs, let's just have Boston face Chicago for the cup!!!!!

I predict:

Anahiem: Getzlaf

to

Toronto: Phaneuf
Bozak

to

Edmonton: Ryan Whitney
Ales Hemsky

back to Ana


This is the theory on this one. Anahiem couldn't afford what Getzlaf wanted but Toronto could so they approved the price. Anahiem signed with Toronto's guarantee.

Toronto now has extra centers and needs to shed cap so they trade their highest paid dman and not their best and throws in an extra forward who frankly is under performing and is the best center to part with for the future of the team.

Edmonton gets the top 4 dman they haven't been able to land in 2 years but have to pay a huge salary to do it. Plus they get the third line center on a team that rolls all lines with lots of ice time. He would replace Horcoff going forward and probably have hartkinen and Paajarvii on both sides which will be a fast hard hitting line that can play a huge shut down role with dangerous offensive abilities.

Edmonton parts with Ryan Whitney to anahiem who they can sign at a good dollar figure and he can play top 4 minutes there. Plus they trade Ales Hemsky who at 29 is a great fit in Anahiem since they aren't afraid of veterans. Hemsky is Edmontons current goal leader and despite missing getzlaf they remain deep in center. Now if they don't want Getzlaf they might be interested in prospects or their 2nd round pick back from the oil + someone like Smid. Getting their pick allows for offer sheets and that might be of interest to them.
- bsteinley

What a retarded prediction...

If Edmonton ends up with those players I would puke, then burn every peice of Oiler merchandise I could find...

But logically if 2 flames fans think it is a dumb post then it must be a great idea. Simple logic. All I need now is a leafs fan to say it sucks and it has the official stamp.

If anyone wants to have a better crack at what the 3 way trade would be that includes the ducks sending getzlaf somewhere in a trade that includes toronto, be my guest. I am just playing with the tools I was given. Logically the Oilers GM is too stupid to trade anyone so it is not going to happen but I am trying to fit needs.

St Louis would be a great trading partner but the problem is, I have no idea who they are willing to part with to get that top 4 dman and i don't think they would take Phaneufs contract. Toronto in theory could keep Phaneuf and Getzlaf but that is a huge amount of their budget on two guys and Toronto is rich on d.
- bsteinley

No...even the Oilers fans think its an absolutely Dumb idea. One of the worst I've seen....

Well he's getting paid Syd money & he aint no Syd. Actually his stats have been over in-flated playing with Perry. Better he didn't come to TO or else he would have been exposed as not being a great center. He's good, don't get me wrong but he's not great, he's over paid.
- GCHonda

No, he is not getting Sid money. Sid gets $12M a season for the next 3 seasons.

You cannot compare apples and oranges. It is no longer possible to pay a player $8M for 3 years and then $1M for 3 years for a Cap hit of $4.5M. Newer contracts will look like over-payments compared to pre-lockout contracts because it is now harder to cheat the system.

Overpayment doesn't equate to market value imo.

If I'm not mistaken, he got a max deal. I don't think he's the best C in the league by far, even though he is a great C, so personally I don't think a max deal is fair market value.

That lost half of a season was a farce.
- StayTunedMTC

If there were 5 other teams willing to give him $8M, then yes, the Ducks gave him market value. Market value is whatever teams are willing to give him.

Whether you think that is an overpayment for his talent level is your opinion.

By "a max deal" do you mean length wise? Because $8M is nowhere near the salary limit for an individual player.

From NHL.com:

Under the new CBA, if you took out all the years where the variance is well over 20% (i.e. having 3 years at $3M at the end of a contract to lower the cap hit, like Crosby's deal) this is what the following contracts would look like:

Crosby 8 years, $13M cap hit
Ovechkin 8 years, $15.5M
Kovalchuck 8 years, $12.5M
Suter 7 years, $14M
Weber 7 years $15.7M
Parise 7 years $15.7M

Getzlaf getting an average of $8.2M a season is nowhere near those numbers. To say he is getting Crosby money is simply not accurate.