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philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
my dad and i just had that conversation the other day. Larmer played most of his career here but like so many other hawks of the era (Savard, Chelios, Olcyzk, Noonan ) all had to leave to win the cup
- waitforawhistle


I've asked the question here and elsewhere and have never received a satisfying answer...

Why did Steve Larmer hold out and force a trade, thereby ending his Iron Man streak of 884 games (11 straight seasons) ? WHY ?

My theory, total speculation, is that Gramps was a 'Keenan guy' and when Darryl Sutter came in as coach, he and Larmer didn't mesh well, despite the fact they were teammates for many years prior.

I'm hoping someone, anyone can please shed some plausible light on what is to me...thee eternal mystery.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:19 PM ET

So...looks lke JJ's lead of 3-6 weeks for Sharp was pretty accurate based on the reports from TSN and NBC. At least 3, probably 4 weeks. There is no rush to bring him back in 2 weeks. This team literally could have a playoff spot clinched by Easter.

I also had a very nice chuckle last night reading all about the Sharp HATE and Stalberg love...My god. I wont even ask how, but to think a guy who arguably is a worst finisher (Stalberg) has scored all of 20+ goals 1 time, can replace a guy who puts up 30 regularly, is hilarious. Even more so, is the illusion that Stalberg is some defensive wizard. Thsi guy makes as many bad turnovers as Versteeg used to.

Lets all say it together...SHARP WILL NOT BE BOUGHT OUT. Say it again, if you want to. They have 4 legit top 6 forwards on this team, so how do you improve bouncing one, and over paying a complimentary player like Stalberg?

philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:20 PM ET

Excellent, Phil, wonder how the script writers wrote out that dialogue?

"I will ppphhuuuuuucccckkkkkkk you up."

- savvyone-1


It's a beautiful, stream of profanity INDEED Savvy, delivered with perfect crescendo.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
Yes, and why isn't Larmer in the Hall of Fame?
- DirkGraham


Good ??????????????????
moots
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mundelein, IL
Joined: 12.02.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
Here's a site for cheap jerseys.. Sewed on numbers strap on back inside..great stuff for the price.. Just click on NHL jerseys on the right side!!!
nfljerseysupply.net
waitforawhistle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: manteno, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
I remember going to the first game he came back as a Ranger..he had a wrist injury and he was probable for the game but still put up this gem.

I know I will get flamed for this but I was never a Belfour fan so i enjoyed this greatly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQnP2l3Jyhw
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Could see him getting 24
- philco28


Give him 88 when we trade Kane for Ryan Miller
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
These are the options:

JESUS 20
SALAD 13
KRUGMAN 16

- John Jaeckel


We'll have to borrow money if you want number 16.
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Here's a site for cheap jerseys.. Sewed on numbers strap on back inside..great stuff for the price.. Just click on NHL jerseys on the right side!!!
nfljerseysupply.net

- moots


Never buying an NHL jersey until they bring back the straight hem. Love the old CCM jerseys the best.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
Eklund's rumor chart is up...
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
Eklund's rumor chart is up...
- EKolb13


I saw that....
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Eklund's rumor chart is up...
- EKolb13


anything good on the hawks?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Better than Montador at his age and salary. Much better. Rozsival is older and makes more.

Sometimes it's like you guys are in Rocky's will.

- John Jaeckel


If that were the case I wouldn't be losing my mind at work and have to come here to escape for a few minutes.

I will say better than Montador but I am assuming he gets amnestied or concussed again.

Can't help but look long term and project. It is just the way I was taught to run a business. Making money today is great but I need to make money the next 30 years or else I can't retire. One pop then a middling wasteland doesn't help me. Sustainability, responsible growth and a viable plan are usually better options.

A team that may win the Cup for 8-10 years will probably keep the season tickets in demand better than a one and done run. If they have a legitimate chance or are just competitive is a different discussion.

The Bulls have milked that model to a T.

Obviously the Hawks have a good chance to win the Cup this year. Definitely if they are healthy and we will see over the next few nights how they respond to some bumps in the road. It is tough enough to justify anything today and even more so depending on how it would impact next year and the year after. Objectively that is the truth. As a fan maybe not but realistically things look good from the outside in.

Personally, I would like to see a center that can win draws (like a lot) and with Sharp out a forward from Rockford who has some hands (preferably Morin, Pirri or Smith - just to see what is there). Aside from that I don't know where you add significantly without subtracting significantly.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
I remember going to the first game he came back as a Ranger..he had a wrist injury and he was probable for the game but still put up this gem.

I know I will get flamed for this but I was never a Belfour fan so i enjoyed this greatly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQnP2l3Jyhw

- waitforawhistle


I remember that one and I too wasn't a big Eddie fan for many reasons
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
Here's a site for cheap jerseys.. Sewed on numbers strap on back inside..great stuff for the price.. Just click on NHL jerseys on the right side!!!
nfljerseysupply.net

- moots


It's a site for Chinese knock-offs.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
Give him 88 when we trade Kane for Ryan Miller
- FourFeathers773


I laugh because I probably endorsed that idea at some point
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
If that were the case I wouldn't be losing my mind at work and have to come here to escape for a few minutes.

I will say better than Montador but I am assuming he gets amnestied or concussed again.

Can't help but look long term and project. It is just the way I was taught to run a business. Making money today is great but I need to make money the next 30 years or else I can't retire. One pop then a middling wasteland doesn't help me. Sustainability, responsible growth and a viable plan are usually better options.

A team that may win the Cup for 8-10 years will probably keep the season tickets in demand better than a one and done run. If they have a legitimate chance or are just competitive is a different discussion.

The Bulls have milked that model to a T.

Obviously the Hawks have a good chance to win the Cup this year. Definitely if they are healthy and we will see over the next few nights how they respond to some bumps in the road. It is tough enough to justify anything today and even more so depending on how it would impact next year and the year after. Objectively that is the truth. As a fan maybe not but realistically things look good from the outside in.

Personally, I would like to see a center that can win draws (like a lot) and with Sharp out a forward from Rockford who has some hands (preferably Morin, Pirri or Smith - just to see what is there). Aside from that I don't know where you add significantly without subtracting significantly.

- fattybeef


Concern about Neil's contract is valid, but not IMO a huge stumbling block
Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
THANK YOU. Those are garbage and a disgrace to the best logo in sports. People are so stupid. You can't get an "authentic" for 50 dollars...but it has a fighting strap!...nope, still a piece of crap. Anyone in China can easily sew one on
- hawks1921



Yep, I paid $250 for a real one at the old Chicago Stadium and that was in 1991!
AceRatbang
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.20.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
I laugh because I probably endorsed that idea at some point
- philco28


I admire the courage to admit that.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
So...looks lke JJ's lead of 3-6 weeks for Sharp was pretty accurate based on the reports from TSN and NBC. At least 3, probably 4 weeks. There is no rush to bring him back in 2 weeks. This team literally could have a playoff spot clinched by Easter.

I also had a very nice chuckle last night reading all about the Sharp HATE and Stalberg love...My god. I wont even ask how, but to think a guy who arguably is a worst finisher (Stalberg) has scored all of 20+ goals 1 time, can replace a guy who puts up 30 regularly, is hilarious. Even more so, is the illusion that Stalberg is some defensive wizard. Thsi guy makes as many bad turnovers as Versteeg used to.

Lets all say it together...SHARP WILL NOT BE BOUGHT OUT. Say it again, if you want to. They have 4 legit top 6 forwards on this team, so how do you improve bouncing one, and over paying a complimentary player like Stalberg?


- SteveRain


I am not a Sharp basher at all. But the one thing that I want to comment on regarding Stalberg is the fact that many knock his lack of finish, but what you get from him is scoring chances most others are not able to get. It is not an apples and apples thing.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
We'll have to borrow money if you want number 16.
- AL SEC0RD


You can print your own money at home, it is part of the whole buying experience.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
Ducks Sign Getzlaf to Eight-Year Contract Extension
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
I am not a Sharp basher at all. But the one thing that I want to comment on regarding Stalberg is the fact that many knock his lack of finish, but what you get from him is scoring chances most others are not able to get. It is not an apples and apples thing.
- TrueGrit


Seems to me Sharp has had many scoring chances this year - both sniping and driving the net - probably as many or more than Stalberg.

Neither are finishing this year, altho Sharp does have a lot of posts.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
Ducks Sign Getzlaf to Eight-Year Contract Extension
- FourFeathers773


Time to trade him in my hockey pool, all his motivation to play well has gone!
fourfeathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Catch you on the fly
Joined: 04.25.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:49 PM ET
Just read that the Ducks signed Getzlaf for 8 more years.
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