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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 8 @ 3:18 PM ET
Thought they capped extensions to 7 years? I guess it's 8, does that mean you can sign an UFA to a 7 year deal?

$8.25m/season, WOW!

- 1970vintage


holy poop they said perry could get 8mil on free market and this happenes nucker insert money gif.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 8 @ 3:20 PM ET
Lindsey Ruff = Cute Chick (see http://twtrland.com/profile/lindseyruff)
Lindy Ruff = NHL Head Coach (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_Ruff)

- Nelson19777


I want neither behind our bench, but if I had to choose one it'd be Lindsey.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
i think you just explained my 'useless' proverb perfectly. good job.
- hnic


If that's what you meant, your statement is extremely misleading.

Saying a coach is only as good as his players implies that it's the players' fault, not the coach's.

While the players certainly deserve part of the blame, when a coach isn't utilizing players properly, or motivating them, the coach is the root of the problem.

Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 8 @ 3:28 PM ET
Fair enough.
A couple of Bloody Mary's will set you straight in a jiff.

- Marwood


Good call. Just patiently waiting for 5 o'clock...
oilersfanatic
Edmonton Oilers
Location: City Of "next year", AB
Joined: 10.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
Belanger for Malhotra?
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
Belanger for Malhotra?
- oilersfanatic


Why don't you just wait until the end of the year and you can get him for free. Although his play make you closer to first overall so I see where your coming from.
hnic
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:04 PM ET
If that's what you meant, your statement is extremely misleading.

Saying a coach is only as good as his players implies that it's the players' fault, not the coach's.

While the players certainly deserve part of the blame, when a coach isn't utilizing players properly, or motivating them, the coach is the root of the problem.

- Fosco


which player said they weren't feeling motivated by AV?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
which player said they weren't feeling motivated by AV?
- hnic


It's just my opinion, like everyone else's posts.

But they don't need to say it—it's pretty obvious with several.

AV's not getting the most out of this group.

Not sure where you're going with this; first you said my comment explained your original post, now you're disagreeing again by claiming the players are motivated?

Which is it?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
Far be it for a 'Nucks-depiser like me to post in a 'Nucks blog, BUT...


I've always thought the shortcomings of this team have been the result of poor leadership from the top down.

And I'm - of course - an outsider looking in, so I may talking in out-of-towner cliches a bit here, but I've always felt this team lacked a sense of accountability.

And I suppose I don't recall a lot of specific comments from the players themselves, but certainly quite a few from AV and Gillis. I know I'm going to rub a lot of folks here the wrong way, but there's just a feeling of entitlement that permeates from these two, and bleeds into the perception of a lot of the players. (And let's call a spade a spade fellas, this team has a lot players who are easy to hate from the outside).

I think that if this team wants to turn a corner with the current personnel, both AV and Gillis have to go, and a more hard-nosed, lunchpail mentality needs to be implemented from the front-office down to the locker room - and thus, onto the ice.

- FredoXV


Fredo...as a canucks fan, and a blackhawks fan, I have to agree with the overall, jist of your comment. Last night not one canuck took the body on any bluejackets. They just chased all night trying to poke the puck free with their sticks while chasing, whatever happened to throwing a hard hit to try and separate the player and puck. There isn't any grit on this team, there could be, but I get the feeling AV doesn't want that style of play.

I like the Sedins, unfracking believable puck possession skills, but my 2 year old granddaughter stands up for herself better than those 2. A leader should lead by example and I guess that's what our captain and his assistants are doing. Lets go out there and beat the opposition with finesse, we'll take a beating physically but man do we look good when we have the puck for our 45sec. shift.

As you stated I want a coach who will make EVERY player accountable, offensively and defensively...no one gets a free ride.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:20 PM ET
which player said they weren't feeling motivated by AV?
- hnic


If actual quotes from players (throwing their coach under a bus) were required to conclude such things, these guys would be immortal in their positions. Hockey players are too PC & cookie cutter to take issues like that public. Even if they DO handle it properly & open their mouths behind closed doors, they are deemed to be the problem and are immediately dealt for Zack Kassian. Uh, I mean... To another team...
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:29 PM ET
I still blame the sleep doctor.
hnic
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
It's just my opinion, like everyone else's posts.

But they don't need to say it—it's pretty obvious with several.

AV's not getting the most out of this group.

Not sure where you're going with this; first you said my comment explained your original post, now you're disagreeing again by claiming the players are motivated?

Which is it?

- Fosco


nope. just trying to figure out how an nhl coach is supposed to 'motivate' players. thoughts?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
nope. just trying to figure out how an nhl coach is supposed to 'motivate' players. thoughts?
- hnic


Start by playing them in the right positions with players of like ability & not threatening punishment for the occasional brain fart.
hnic
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:33 PM ET
Start by playing them in the right positions with players of like ability & not threatening punishment for the occasional brain fart.
- DrChristianTroy


pat quinn was good for that. if a young d-man made a mistake, he put him right back on the ice instead of stapling him to the bench.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
If that's what you meant, your statement is extremely misleading.

Saying a coach is only as good as his players implies that it's the players' fault, not the coach's.

While the players certainly deserve part of the blame, when a coach isn't utilizing players properly, or motivating them, the coach is the root of the problem.

- Fosco


We have seen how these players can play. So if its not coaching what the (frank) is the problem. The only constant this season has been the Sedins playing together other than that we don't know who is getting the press box or who the (frank) is gonna play with who. AV is inconsistent in trying to find chemistry this season and his line matching on the fly with other teams has been laughable due to this inconsistency. After missing the playoffs in 07/08 season you could tell players like Linden Morrison and even Naslunds game had really declined under his tutelage. Many of the AV "chosen" did thrive but the season was a wash. In all fairness after that he did get the room to buy in and were successful from then on. I personally had seen enough after that though I supported him anyway. If one were to look at the 07/08 roster it is very similar to our roster now. I'm not saying we need to clean house but this team needs a character change in the locker room. Right now we have players that we could move for a big time trade. Coaching changes happen all the time. I'm gonna put it out there Mike Gillis. You made a lot of promises on what was going to be done with this team and you still haven't put your stamp on this team. I dare anyone to name one player that MG has brought in that says this is a Gillis ERA. I'm not gonna knock any of the current players or the players he has brought in but look at the players who he has gotten rid of cleaning up a mess that his coach made. PUT your stamp on this team MIKE. Fire AV. Rant over. Somehow I feel better.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 8 @ 4:49 PM ET
If Calgary contents for the NW ......which the way
Vancouver is playing they could do

If so they may be buyers and not sellers but if not do you not think Kipper,Iggy and Tanquay will not be on the trade block?

- PEIHawkFan


I was just talking Kesler to Calgary.....NO CHANCE

Ya they'll be on the block.....maybe. I have no idea what the organization is trying to do.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 8 @ 4:57 PM ET
I still blame the sleep doctor.
- hertzman


It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the sleep doctor's name is "Ike Illis" or "Mik Gill"... The results have been so mediocre that it must have been a scam to supplement a certain somebody's salary. All he has to do is add an 'M' & 'G' or 'e' & 'is' to the cheques prior to deposit. #ConspiracyTheory
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Mar 8 @ 5:05 PM ET
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the sleep doctor's name is "Ike Illis" or "Mik Gill"... The results have been so mediocre that it must have been a scam to supplement a certain somebody's salary. All he has to do is add an 'M' & 'G' or 'e' & 'is' to the cheques prior to deposit. #ConspiracyTheory
- DrChristianTroy




This guy's our sleep doctor! No wonder we're (frank)ed.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 8 @ 5:06 PM ET


This guy's our sleep doctor! No wonder we're (frank)ed.

- hertzman


It would explain his lack of progress with those eye-scrotums.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Mar 8 @ 5:24 PM ET
pat quinn was good for that. if a young d-man made a mistake, he put him right back on the ice instead of stapling him to the bench.
- hnic


Bring back Pat Quinn.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 8 @ 5:27 PM ET
Bring back Pat Quinn.
- Michael_Stuart

No way BTW thanks for the Connelly update.
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Mar 8 @ 5:29 PM ET
We have seen how these players can play. So if its not coaching what the (frank) is the problem. The only constant this season has been the Sedins playing together other than that we don't know who is getting the press box or who the (frank) is gonna play with who. AV is inconsistent in trying to find chemistry this season and his line matching on the fly with other teams has been laughable due to this inconsistency. After missing the playoffs in 07/08 season you could tell players like Linden Morrison and even Naslunds game had really declined under his tutelage. Many of the AV "chosen" did thrive but the season was a wash. In all fairness after that he did get the room to buy in and were successful from then on. I personally had seen enough after that though I supported him anyway. If one were to look at the 07/08 roster it is very similar to our roster now. I'm not saying we need to clean house but this team needs a character change in the locker room. Right now we have players that we could move for a big time trade. Coaching changes happen all the time. I'm gonna put it out there Mike Gillis. You made a lot of promises on what was going to be done with this team and you still haven't put your stamp on this team. I dare anyone to name one player that MG has brought in that says this is a Gillis ERA. I'm not gonna knock any of the current players or the players he has brought in but look at the players who he has gotten rid of cleaning up a mess that his coach made. PUT your stamp on this team MIKE. Fire AV. Rant over. Somehow I feel better.
- thundachunk


I agree - a character change is needed. I don't know if AV is gone though, and if MG doesn't pull the trigger and put Alain down, then he should get something the canucks need most of all. A sniper. No more 'two way' players, they need a guy who is dangerous with the puck. Outside of Sedin, who on the Canucks would you trust to bury it? Kessler did it for a season, but it looks like he won't be doing it any time soon.
It makes me throw up in my mouth, but ... Kessel?
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 8 @ 5:48 PM ET
You Canuck fans are the biggest bunch of bandwagon jumpers in the NHL . As soon as they put together a 5 game win steak it will be plan the parade route again. The Canucks are no longer one of the elite teams in the league, they feast on awful teams in the Northwest Division and are basically a 500 club against the rest of the league.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 8 @ 5:51 PM ET
You Canuck fans are the biggest bunch of bandwagon jumpers in the NHL . As soon as they put together a 5 game win steak it will be plan the parade route again. The Canucks are no longer one of the elite teams in the league, they feast on awful teams in the Northwest Division and are basically a 500 club against the rest of the league.
- HawkfaninBC


And you're a real class act

Thanks for going out of your way to tell us what's what.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 8 @ 5:54 PM ET
We have seen how these players can play. So if its not coaching what the (frank) is the problem. The only constant this season has been the Sedins playing together other than that we don't know who is getting the press box or who the (frank) is gonna play with who. AV is inconsistent in trying to find chemistry this season and his line matching on the fly with other teams has been laughable due to this inconsistency. After missing the playoffs in 07/08 season you could tell players like Linden Morrison and even Naslunds game had really declined under his tutelage. Many of the AV "chosen" did thrive but the season was a wash. In all fairness after that he did get the room to buy in and were successful from then on. I personally had seen enough after that though I supported him anyway. If one were to look at the 07/08 roster it is very similar to our roster now. I'm not saying we need to clean house but this team needs a character change in the locker room. Right now we have players that we could move for a big time trade. Coaching changes happen all the time. I'm gonna put it out there Mike Gillis. You made a lot of promises on what was going to be done with this team and you still haven't put your stamp on this team. I dare anyone to name one player that MG has brought in that says this is a Gillis ERA. I'm not gonna knock any of the current players or the players he has brought in but look at the players who he has gotten rid of cleaning up a mess that his coach made. PUT your stamp on this team MIKE. Fire AV. Rant over. Somehow I feel better.
- thundachunk



Agree with pretty much everything.

I've gone on a rant or two myself in the last week.
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