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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
Thinking about the elbow by Statsny, it is time the Blackhawks get a little 'dirty'. They have enough of a cushion in the division. They should go out of their way to make Matt Duchene or Gabriel Landeskog pay.
- powerenforcer

Make the guy that did it, Stastny, pay. Do you want the Oilers to make Toews or Kane 'pay' for what Cacillo did last year?
Scruffton
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Mar 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
Thinking about the elbow by Statsny, it is time the Blackhawks get a little 'dirty'. They have enough of a cushion in the division. They should go out of their way to make Matt Duchene or Gabriel Landeskog pay.
- powerenforcer

Why go after one of them? Did they do anything? If Stastny threw a dirty elbow go after HIM.

Would it not send a bigger message? "Hurt our player, you get hurt."
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
If we're talking veteran 4th line "center" with some size who can win faceoffs, why not ask Dale Tallon about Jerred Smithson?

6'3" 209 lbs
veteran of 600+ NHL Games
55% at the dot for a terrible Florida team
Has taken 3rd most draws for that team (230)
36 playoff games under his belt
800k salary, UFA after this season
Acquired from Nashville last year for a 6th round pick
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
Make the guy that did it, Stastny, pay. Do you want the Oilers to make Toews or Kane 'pay' for what Cacillo did last year?
- paulr


Stastny did what most hard edged players would...

He saw a late hit coming after he dished the puck and put his arm/elbow up.

Shaw was late getting there and went into him awkwardly.

There isn't anything to pay back in my book.


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blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
Ott is not coming here without a player salary in return...he has year left at $3mil plus....does not fit salary structure or cap.
- bogiedoc

Depends on what else they do with expiring contracts, especially Rosival and Stalberg.

It's way too early to talk next years $3M Ott salary when focusing on a cup this June.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
Pretty sure 67 and 81 are fine. Not aware of Shaw having any concussion history (anyone who follows the OHL?). For some reason, he strikes me as the kind of guy who eats concussions for breakfast.

10 is a legit concern.

- John Jaeckel


Never heard a peep about Shaw having a concussion history in the O....hope he's ok and ditto the Glue Guy Sharpie
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
Montador has a say in that with his partial NTC. That's going to be a problem in the idea of moving Montador.
- EKolb13


Monty is untradeabl anyway given his health history...hwks need to find out if he can play or if his concussion issues are now chronic....he is prime amnesty buy out candidate
Lash8
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 7 @ 12:00 PM ET
Depends on what else they do with expiring contracts, especially Rosival and Stalberg.

It's way too early to talk next years $3M Ott salary when focusing on a cup this June.

- blackhawk24


Win the cup first, then deal with next year's cap issues. They did it in 2010 and I'd be content to watch them do it again, and suffer through 2 more mediocre seasons, to watch second parade down Michigan Ave in June. Ott would be an ideal add.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
Make the guy that did it, Stastny, pay. Do you want the Oilers to make Toews or Kane 'pay' for what Cacillo did last year?
- paulr


I see it this way - as a player you need to understand what is happening around you. If a teammate is taking runs at other players, you better have your head up. What better way to pay for a goon than to try to make pain for that teams best player? It hurts Colorado more to be without Duchene or Landeskog for a few shirtf/periods than Stastny, doesn't it?
And to answer you question, if the Oilers were to do that, I would think Toews understands that part of the game. He's wearing the same jersey as anyone else on the team.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
Monty is untradeabl anyway given his health history...hwks need to find out if he can play or if his concussion issues are now chronic....he is prime amnesty buy out candidate
- bogiedoc


Amen.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
Get us Steve Ott!

Please and thank you.

- Hawkster



you guys are 21-0-3 and you want to make trades?
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
Why do I have the feeling that instead of a Steve Ott we might get a Jason Arnott?

Blues deciding whether to sign him or not by Sunday. He passed their physical.

Stan - winner or bean counter? We will see soon enough.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:05 PM ET
you guys are 21-0-3 and you want to make trades?
- SpoiledByOil


Winners make moves to win in the playoffs. Regular season is irrelevant.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
Depends on what else they do with expiring contracts, especially Rosival and Stalberg.

It's way too early to talk next years $3M Ott salary when focusing on a cup this June.

- blackhawk24


I know its way early to talk about this stuff...but no doubt Bowman has to be thinking about it. So here we go again.

The Hawks have $4 mil in cap space next year.
Kruger (RFA): est he eats 2-2.5 of that
Leddy (RFA): est he also eats 2-2.5 of that.
Now you have Bicks, Stahls, Emery, Rosival, Mayers are UFA's
Mayers is gone. Emery will attract interest for sure as will Stahls. Bicks I suspect the Hawks will keep...can't afford to lose another big body.

The math says Olez and Monty are prime amnesty buyouts for about $6 mil plus. Only way you have a shot of keeping the a couple of the UFA's or add salary.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
Winners make moves to win in the playoffs. Regular season is irrelevant.
- Return of the Roar



yea... sure looks like you could use a couple upgrades
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
Seems to me that Stastny knew and was upset Shaw was there. You don't just randomly bring up your elbow after dumping the puck in. Shaw goes low to finish his check, Stastny throws the elbow high.

If Shaw has his chance to return quickly he'll likely take a few runs at Stastny in one of the next two outings vs Colorado.


- prd797

Bring Bollig back up to beat the sh!t out of him.....after the 'Hawks are up by 3 late.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:08 PM ET
yea... sure looks like you could use a couple upgrades
- SpoiledByOil


To hang with and beat Boston in a seven game series - yes.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Mar 7 @ 12:12 PM ET
Matt Hendricks is my guy. Washington Caps.

Grit, great speed, great in shoot out. will fight...kill penalties. Perfect bottom 6 guy.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:13 PM ET
Why do I have the feeling that instead of a Steve Ott we might get a Jason Arnott?

Blues deciding whether to sign him or not by Sunday. He passed their physical.

Stan - winner or bean counter? We will see soon enough.

- Return of the Roar



Arnott at this point is only slightly faster than Brunette....

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FredoXV
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: OH
Joined: 06.23.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:20 PM ET
Ott is not coming here without a player salary in return...he has year left at $3mil plus....does not fit salary structure or cap.
- bogiedoc



Not to mention Regier just moved a top-six center for him last summer...

Although Regier might just follow Ruff out the door, so who knows.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:21 PM ET
I know its way early to talk about this stuff...but no doubt Bowman has to be thinking about it. So here we go again.

The Hawks have $4 mil in cap space next year.
Kruger (RFA): est he eats 2-2.5 of that
Leddy (RFA): est he also eats 2-2.5 of that.
Now you have Bicks, Stahls, Emery, Rosival, Mayers are UFA's
Mayers is gone. Emery will attract interest for sure as will Stahls. Bicks I suspect the Hawks will keep...can't afford to lose another big body.

The math says Olez and Monty are prime amnesty buyouts for about $6 mil plus. Only way you have a shot of keeping the a couple of the UFA's or add salary.

- bogiedoc

Don't care about next season. I care about this season. It's not like they'd be at another cap-ocalypse.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:23 PM ET
Montador has a say in that with his partial NTC. That's going to be a problem in the idea of moving Montador.
- EKolb13



Not only that but something tells me his chronic concussion situation might be the bigger issue....
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:24 PM ET
you guys are 21-0-3 and you want to make trades?
- SpoiledByOil


100% Yes - we realize that while this team is very good.. come playoff time there are weaknesses that this team does have.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
Matt Hendricks is my guy. Washington Caps.

Grit, great speed, great in shoot out. will fight...kill penalties. Perfect bottom 6 guy.

- TrueGrit


Hendricks, Beagle and Perreault have great numbers at the dot this year. Hendricks and Beagle would be great for Bottom 6 depth and grit (everything you mentioned. Both are PK staples for Washington.

Perreault I liked because he has a scoring touch and can play on the PP. He reportedly asked for a trade out of Washington earlier this year. Only negative is that he is on the small side (5'10" 185). Admittedly not sure what kind of return the Caps would want for the guy though (maybe prospects and/or picks?)
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Mar 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
I know its way early to talk about this stuff...but no doubt Bowman has to be thinking about it. So here we go again.

The Hawks have $4 mil in cap space next year.
Kruger (RFA): est he eats 2-2.5 of that
Leddy (RFA): est he also eats 2-2.5 of that.
Now you have Bicks, Stahls, Emery, Rosival, Mayers are UFA's
Mayers is gone. Emery will attract interest for sure as will Stahls. Bicks I suspect the Hawks will keep...can't afford to lose another big body.

The math says Olez and Monty are prime amnesty buyouts for about $6 mil plus. Only way you have a shot of keeping the a couple of the UFA's or add salary.

- bogiedoc[/quote

The prime buyout candidate is a certain forward who is turning 32 this year and is penciled in @ 5.9m cap hit wise till then 2016/17 season.
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