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andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
Is that you Stan? JK

Ott is 58% at the dot, crashes the net, and is just the kind of PITA this team could use. Gives Q lots of options - especially come playoff time. Less money than Bolland, more versatile, and healthier. But I don't think you need to trade Bolland to get him.

- Return of the Roar


My comments were strictly related to him vs Bolland. Ott is prone to bad penalties and isn't superb defensively. His skating also leaves a lot to be desired and there would be a skill dropoff from him to Bolland. I'm just not sure he's a fit. I like him as a player though.

But here's a guy who has always intrigued me: Mikael Backlund in Calgary.

Young C, who has shown offensive flashes and is quite good in his own zone, has loads of untapped potential and is only 23 years old. He has all the skills that would fit the Hawks system very well. With him being an RFA at season's end, the risk and asking price would be minimal.

He reminds me of a more gifted version of Marcus Kruger, but maybe a little less fearless. I believe with a change of scenery he could flourish and fulfill some of what made him such a highly touted prospect at one time.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
Screw it, let's go all in. Detroit will not win the Cup in the next few years based on the age and talent level of their roster.

Pavel Datsyuk has this year and next at 6.7M. UFA after 13-14. Let the Wings have their pick of 3-4 from Rockford, and maybe someone off the roster. Then team Pavel up with Hossa and Kane with the Captain.

- scottak


Saad or Leddy off the roster, 3-4 guys from Rockford, Teravainen or Danault, and a #1 pick might get that conversation started.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
Jebus...

I've got two words...Hybrid Icing

- eburgio


ABSOLUTELY
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
Detroit GM Ken Holland says Wings may not be buyers depending on how they do the next few weeks. Hopefully they become sellers.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...efore-he-explores-trades/

- scottak

And you think they're going to sell the to Hawks?!?!

Again...
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
Paying for past performance is suicide in a salary cap world. That money counts against the cap now, not then.
- Ogilthorpe2


Same could be said for potential performance (see Rick Dipietro).
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
Not in a million years...we're thin enough at C and Ott doesn't bring anything we can't find in a cheaper option, both in trade price and salary.
- andru2797


I would not have an issue with Ott's salary. But it would be an overpay in terms of what you'd need to give Buffalo, as likely would Iginla. Ott might be less likely than Iginla as a trade target for that and other reasons.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
My comments were strictly related to him vs Bolland. Ott is prone to bad penalties and isn't superb defensively. His skating also leaves a lot to be desired and there would be a skill dropoff from him to Bolland. I'm just not sure he's a fit. I like him as a player though.

But here's a guy who has always intrigued me: Mikael Backlund in Calgary.

Young C, who has shown offensive flashes and is quite good in his own zone, has loads of untapped potential and is only 23 years old. He has all the skills that would fit the Hawks system very well. With him being an RFA at season's end, the risk and asking price would be minimal.

He reminds me of a more gifted version of Marcus Kruger, but maybe a little less fearless. I believe with a change of scenery he could flourish and fulfill some of what made him such a highly touted prospect at one time.

- andru2797


Nate Thompson. I would even overpay a little to get him. He is very popular in TB, but the Hawks might have the chip(s) to pry him loose and he is EXACTLY what this club needs.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
I would not have an issue with Ott's salary. But it would be an overpay in terms of what you'd need to give Buffalo, as likely would Iginla. Ott might be less likely than Iginla as a trade target for that and other reasons.
- John Jaeckel


True...let's not forget Buffalo traded Derek Roy for him so they would want a significant return.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
Nate Thompson. I would even overpay a little to get him. He is very popular in TB, but the Hawks might have the chip(s) to pry him loose and he is EXACTLY what this club needs.
- John Jaeckel


Wholeheartedly agree. I like him alot, and I believe I've said as much.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
Nate Thompson. I would even overpay a little to get him. He is very popular in TB, but the Hawks might have the chip(s) to pry him loose and he is EXACTLY what this club needs.
- John Jaeckel


Also, I could see TB getting a similar return as Buffalo got for Gaustad (as an overpayment). Similar situations.
droe411
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
Same could be said for potential performance (see Rick Dipietro).
- andru2797



Exactly! You don't pay for what might never come.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:11 PM ET
Nate Thompson. I would even overpay a little to get him. He is very popular in TB, but the Hawks might have the chip(s) to pry him loose and he is EXACTLY what this club needs.
- John Jaeckel



What would you be willing to pay to get Thompson?
Jagbears
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.14.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:13 PM ET
What would you be willing to pay to key Thompson?
- DarthKane

2nd round pick according to Craig Custance on ESPN...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:15 PM ET
Paying for past performance is suicide in a salary cap world. That money counts against the cap now, not then.
- Ogilthorpe2


but that's the way it works...you get promoted for what you have done...sports no difference. The guy was/is almost a pt/gm producer over the last 5 years and was a big part of the cup team as well as other intangibles. My god if a young wanta-be done nothing like O'r gets 5mil/per what is Toews or Kane worth next time around?

I agree its a problem in the cap world and that those 10 plus year front loaded contract were insane...but the teams/GM's exploited their own CBA folly and screwed them selves....hence the lockout.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:16 PM ET
With the Big lead in the Central this is a great chance to bring 3 forwards up and let them play.
1.Gives the banged up guys a good rest.
2.Provides the Hawks a chance to see who can do what in the NHL.
3.Provides a chance to show case prospects for any deadline trades.

SB has repeatedly stated they are looking to add a minor but experienced piece only which is consistent with last year's deadline and the off season

The only thing that may change that is injuries to top 6 forwards

Hawks appear set in Goal and on the Blue Line

I
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ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
Awesome accomplishment by Emery.

Carcillo potting the winner was great.

To me, this was the first truly unbelievable win. Hossa, Sharp and Shaw get hurt, Colorado skates and plays hard... and DAN CARCILLO wins the game late.

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

- AceRatbang


You must have missed the game in Calgary...
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
2nd round pick according to Craig Custance on ESPN...
- Jagbears


Wonder if a later round pick and a kid from Rockford would work. Like Morin and a 4th.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:18 PM ET
Come on, try.
- Ogilthorpe2



The play did happen because of a good defensive play.....
Stackdog
Joined: 06.18.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:23 PM ET
Please JJ, define "Gorilla Salad" , ? whats the meaning
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
but that's the way it works...you get promoted for what you have done...sports no difference. The guy was/is almost a pt/gm producer over the last 5 years and was a big part of the cup team as well as other intangibles. My god if a young wanta-be done nothing like O'r gets 5mil/per what is Toews or Kane worth next time around?

I agree its a problem in the cap world and that those 10 plus year front loaded contract were insane...but the teams/GM's exploited their own CBA folly and screwed them selves....hence the lockout.

- bogiedoc


We'll find out this summer with some guy in PIT set to be the biggest UFA, perhaps ever, after next season. If ROR is worth 6 million, Malkin is worth 20.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
You must have missed the game in Calgary...
- ArlingtonRob


agree...that gme was a blowout by Calgary in every way except the final score! The hwks had more giveaways than shots on goal and it looked like the Flames had 6 guys on the ice the whole damn gme!!
Jagbears
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.14.2012

Mar 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
Please JJ, define "Gorilla Salad" , ? whats the meaning
- Stackdog

Search it on urban dictionary
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 7 @ 3:29 PM ET
Also, I could see TB getting a similar return as Buffalo got for Gaustad (as an overpayment). Similar situations.
- andru2797


Maybe, depends on what you call an overpayment. One man's treasure is another man's trash. What does Stevie want to get his team to the next level?

Though I do agree, for the Hawks, where they are, what they need, they will likely have to overpay a bit to do just about anything.

That said, and I have a blog coming on this, I believe the Hawks know they are close but NOT a slam dunk to win the Cup and that they can improve this roster. Bowman also likely remembers what unforeseen Stanley Cup bonuses and other factors did to him in the summer of 2010, when he lost Niemi for no compensation and kinda got hosed on Ladd as well. Nt to mention lost credibility at that time.

In all likelihood, a rostered player would go in a deal that brings a meaningful rostered player in. You deal from strength in order to fill an area of need. A pending free agent with a high asking price could be what goes the other way.


John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 7 @ 3:30 PM ET
2nd round pick according to Craig Custance on ESPN...
- Jagbears


More. For the Hawks, a 2nd rd pick is basically a third rounder to other teams.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 7 @ 3:33 PM ET
According the urbandictionary.com....3 definitions


Gorilla Salad

1. A thick, course public bush reminiscent of the jet black hair of the eastern mountain gorilla (G. beringei beringei).

2. Professional ice hockey player and all around mouth-breathing Richard-clown Daniel Carcillo.
Chicago Blackhawks forward Dan "Gorilla Salad" Carcillo has been suspended indefinitely, pending an in-person hearing with the NHL's Department of Player Safety regarding an act of aggravated stupidity.
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2. Gorilla salad

A grotesquely hairy vagina.
If you want gorilla salad go to East Windsor.
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3. gorilla salad

some nasty ass untamed pubic hair that protrudes outta tha panties; an overgrown bush; a muff with a horrendous amount of fur.
Danielle refused to go swimming yesterday because her overgrown gorilla salad was showing.

Alex's gorilla salad is so mangy that she has to get that poop waxed every week.
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