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Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Mar 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
I thought the goal was to suck less?
- Yosimar89



Couldn't think of someone else off the top of my head.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
This.

Other GMs would probably love to see the Flyers panic and start dealing talent.

- johndewar


Would anyone really trade for Feds, Knuble, Gagne, Talbot(not giving up on him yet)... Is that really talent?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
i'm not a homer fan, but the lack of discipline and the predictability of their futility in particular game situations and lack of attention to details is more on the coaching staff.

homer had a rough off season, no doubt.

- isaiah520


Honestly, I'm not at every practice or in the locker room when the coaches do their thing with the players. I'm sure the blame falls on everyone.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
DANNY BRIERE -11
BRAYDON COBURN -9
BRUNO GERVAIS -11
SEAN COUTURIER -8

Vomit

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
Predictable really.

Laviolette should be replaced by this guy.

- flyer_nutter


What's predictable is that I posted how it is, and what really happened in the game. Same way I did on the 3rd period of the Rangers game.
Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Mar 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
buyout bryz and trade assets for a goalie. that makes sense.
- hereticpride



I can't see 9 years with him in net. this is the chance we have to rectify a mistake

EDIT: Maybe a more d minded coach can help bryz rediscover what he had in PHX. who know's? But the window is closing quickly and a coaching change is needed sooner than later.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
It's ricotta cheese though. NOT fruity at all.

Plus, I'm hungry anyway.

Led Zeppelin is amazing.

And I'm bored. Hence NHL 13.

I have a realistic reason for everything

- Giroux_Is_God

You're young and not married with no kids, go get a girl and stop sulking with us crusty old geezers would ya?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
Not sure that was ever realistic for Coburn, but he does seem to be struggling this year. But the entire D is too, largely because they get zero help from the forwards. I think you could stick Shea Webber back there and he's look pretty average with the amount of support this team provides.
- BringBack25


My general point is if Coburn plays top 4 minutes he needs to be able to generate offense by using his skating ability or crisp outlet passes to spring the forwards. Unfortunately, he doesn't do neither very well. Kimmo still has very good passing skills. Basically 3 of the team's top 4 d-man act more as stay at home guys especially when the coach employs an attacking style with d-men constantly pinching.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
Not sure that was ever realistic for Coburn, but he does seem to be struggling this year. But the entire D is too, largely because they get zero help from the forwards. I think you could stick Shea Webber back there and he's look pretty average with the amount of support this team provides.
- BringBack25


My general point is if Coburn plays top 4 minutes he needs to be able to generate offense by using his skating ability or crisp outlet passes to spring the forwards. Unfortunately, he doesn't do neither very well. Kimmo still has very good passing skills. Basically 3 of the team's top 4 d-man act more as stay at home guys especially when the coach employs an attacking style with d-men constantly pinching.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:15 PM ET
The thing is, by and large, Laviolette's success came when he either had veteran teams or a leader like Pronger or Brind'Amour.

Teams have to play both sides of the puck and adjust when their gameplan isn't working....they don't.

- Jsaquella


Do you believe they are going to excel playing such a style? I dont know.

Bryzgalov will be worn to a pulp, and the D is very mistake prone, and bad in transition. The forwards aren't too great along the boards either. They get beat physically pretty often in their own zone.

We will see.



isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 7 @ 10:16 PM ET
This years flyers is more talented than last years devils
- JoeRussomanno

that team was put together better chemistry wise, but i agree overall
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:17 PM ET
I'm not concerned with Boucher. And I thought you were happy with the change in backups?
- MJL


Leighton will get his chance to be the backup again next year. 1 yr 860K
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:17 PM ET
You're young and not married with no kids, go get a girl and stop sulking with us crusty old geezers would ya?

- JoeRussomanno


I've been in nursing school for what seems like forever.

Drives me insane

I have this running in the backround while I study. Always bad when you start writing line combinations down on your notes.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 10:17 PM ET
Do you believe they are going to excel playing such a style? I dont know.

Bryzgalov will be worn to a pulp, and the D is very mistake prone, and bad in transition. The forwards aren't too great along the boards either. They get beat physically pretty often in their own zone.

We will see.

- flyer_nutter


Everyone needs to sleep this loss off. Get under the blankets and grab your favorite teddy bear. Sweet dreams.

The sun shall rise again.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:18 PM ET
DANNY BRIERE -11
BRAYDON COBURN -9
BRUNO GERVAIS -11
SEAN COUTURIER -8

Vomit

- flyguy12


Couturier has really regressed this year. Only 20 though, he's got a bright future.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:18 PM ET
i'm not a homer fan, but the lack of discipline and the predictability of their futility in particular game situations and lack of attention to details is more on the coaching staff.

homer had a rough off season, no doubt.

- isaiah520


The key phrase. Lack of attention to detail. When the same thing keeps happening over and over. When the entire team plays the same way in situations on the ice. You know that it's not a player decision. But it is by design. They play that way in games because that is how they practice, and that is how they drill.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 7 @ 10:19 PM ET
DANNY BRIERE -11
BRAYDON COBURN -9
BRUNO GERVAIS -11
SEAN COUTURIER -8

Vomit

- flyguy12


And Giroux is -6. They are not very good 5v5 at all. They've really lived and died by the PP... it's pretty much gotten them all their points this year
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 7 @ 10:19 PM ET
Couturier has really regressed this year. Only 20 though, he's got a bright future.
- PLindbergh31

The whole (frank)ing team has regressed. It's a poop show around him. Not sure why people are getting on his case. He'll be fine. He's still good defensively.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 7 @ 10:19 PM ET
The agonizing cries from Pronger as he ran off the ice...they are haunting
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
buyout bryz and trade assets for a goalie. that makes sense.
- hereticpride


Yup..as long as those assets are not Giroux, Voracek, B Schenn , Hartnell or Simmonds I am ok with that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
So your not a believer in the coach?
- stveshdy


How can I be? There is no forward movement. They are sinking. And I see no sign of the changes that need to be made. No adjustments. Other then the little wrinkle in the D zone play. Tells me that this Coach is unwilling to change.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
Would anyone really trade for Feds, Knuble, Gagne, Talbot(not giving up on him yet)... Is that really talent?
- jstross


None of those guys (save Talbot) is really a tradeable commodity.

I was thinking more in terms of Giroux, Couturier, BSchenn, Wayne Simmonds, Matt Read, Jake Voracek, etc.

You know. The core of the team.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
I've been in nursing school for what seems like forever.

Drives me insane

I have this running in the backround while I study. Always bad when you start writing line combinations down on your notes.

- flyer_nutter

Don't feel bad I'm going on my 15th year of a four year degree. Stay focused and it will happen. Plenty of time for the stupid poop later.
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Mar 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
It's cool that stud Briere needs all the playing time he can get.
- Yosimar89

showcasing him for a trade
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
Couturier has really regressed this year. Only 20 though, he's got a bright future.
- PLindbergh31


Been very diappointed with Couts, but have to be patient with him. He's really pressing.
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