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KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:04 PM ET
Why couldnt a guy like Zherdev?

Sometimes, you just have players that work hard shift after shift, and others that dont.

What is Lava doing that has Rinaldo and Grossman working their ass off every night, but the rest of the team takes shifts off game after game. Perhaps management needs to do a better job of identifying players that have better work ethic and arent so damn streaky when it comes to putting forth that effort.

- flyer_nutter


I think for the most part this team has very good work ethic, they just don't know how to properly use it.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
kennedy has 3 goals this season. all against the flyers.
- flyfan1212

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
and there it is.
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
atta boy kimmo
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
that didn't take long.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
The Pens dumped it in, and managed to keep possession along the boards for extended periods of time.

Exposing a slow D that has a hard time moving the puck, and forwards that get exposed along the boards. The Penguins didnt win that period through transition scoring, they won it by sheer puck possession time in the Flyers zone. How many times did the Flyers have the pens out-numbered along the wall and lose the puck?

At some point, even if Lava doesnt "preach" d-first hockey, the players have to look themselves in the face. Up 4-1 to this?

- flyer_nutter


Nothing to do with a slow D. Absolutely it was one in transition. How do you think you get puck possession time in the Flyers zone? They skated the puck through the neutral zone the entire period unchallenged. Easy entries. And when you don't challenge player and allow them speed through the neutral zone, it's easier for them to retreive pucks.
With a team that is well Coached with a solid defensive structure. With the bounces the Flyers got in the first. The game is over.

Great start to the 3rd huh?
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
Awesome. Great start guys.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
oh my
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
Bye bye.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
"The answer" is obvious... you put in Brian Bou....cher?
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
season ender??
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
WTF......................................................
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
nice whiff kimmo. so, so, so bad.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
season ender??
- griouxmvp2012

Just pack it in
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
That was unbelievable. Two forwards on their stomachs in the offensive zone once again leaving the defense and goalie hanging in the breeze.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
How do the Flyers just s$&@ the bed. This is a joke.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
season ender??
- griouxmvp2012

Season ender

Laviolette tenure ender

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
Why couldnt a guy like Zherdev?

Sometimes, you just have players that work hard shift after shift, and others that dont.

What is Lava doing that has Rinaldo and Grossman working their ass off every night, but the rest of the team takes shifts off game after game. Perhaps management needs to do a better job of identifying players that have better work ethic and arent so damn streaky when it comes to putting forth that effort.

- flyer_nutter


Don't know. But Rinaldo played his ass off in the first period, then had 3 shifts in the second period, for 2:46 of ice time.

It's completely illogical coaching.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
that didn't take long.

- FlyerGuy


think of it this way: it gives them the whole period to get it back.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
this is my biggest issue. their inability to win battles in their own end, or even when they do, they still have a very difficult time getting it out when pressured by the other team. eventually the puck ends up in the back of the net.

to blow a 3 goal lead - especially when having scored the 4th goal with 5 seconds left in the period - is inexcusable. that said, i've seen this script of scoring 4 goals in a period, chasing the goalie, and going limp the rest of the game far too many times in the last several years. it doesn't surprise me in the least.

- hammarby31


A lot of these consistency issues were here even with Stevens. A large number of the players have been switched over, and so has the coaching staff. What has remained the same? Scouting and management.

This organization does a piss poor job identifying talent that CONSISTENTLY works hard.

Its not all doom and gloom to be, but they need to ship a few guys out to shovel the sidewalk and give this team a real infusion of guys that work hard first and foremost. That is what makes the best players, the best players. Not a system. Or a coach.

The issues here are larger to me than an indetity, or a certain defending/attacking scheme.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET


Boucher's lateral movement there looked like he was in super slow motion.

How many starting goalies in the NHL have sub .900 save %?
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
this season sucks but i am excited for the future
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