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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:36 PM ET
You thinking Ballard has value loses all your credibility. If he did have value he would have been moved by now. No one wants him not even the Canucks. He is soft and is turnover prone. Say what you want about Komi but at least he is a tough guy and he was once good. He could easily be a bottom pairing guy with the canucks and add toughness.
- Bluechip23


Coming from you

Thought you'd given up coming to the Canucks board, when several called you out for not actually being a Canuck fan.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:37 PM ET
If Lu is not gone by TDL I think CS is moved
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Mar 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
You can have Bergeron, Malone, Brewer, Purcell, and Lee.
- Swobo56

we want SALO back ...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
There's your problem. Hockeysfuture (frank)ing sucks. Their prospect ratings are awful.

Connauton is nowhere near as good a prospect as Gaunce. Connauton likely will never be an NHL player. To have him rated anywhere close to Gaunce is an example of how weak their ratings system is.

- Fosco


My fault then,
I really don't know much about your prospects,
Was just going by what I saw on that website

Is there a better site u know of to get rankings & info on prospects?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
He was a man possessed on that last shift. Thats easily the best goal hes scored all year. Usually they are one timers, deflections, or tap ins at the side of the net. He hasnt even attempted to do that until now. After he scored the goal, he won the faceoff and went down the ice again but came up short. Hope to see more of that out of him going forward.
- theblueandgold

Other than the very similar Datsuk goal I would say its one of the best goals I have seen all season. Regardless of going to a non contending team coho went to a place where he would build confidence. He wasn't gonna get that here. Wish him the best.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
I am just a hater on a few players. I love the sedins. I love Hamhuis. Big Lu fan. I hate kesler Burrows and Ballard. Think they are useless. Kesler and burrows are good players but I wish we moved Kesler when his value was the highest. I think he is a locker room cancer.

Just cause I am not a blind homer like you guys doesnt make me less of a fan. Some people call it being realistic. You are also the same guy that thought Lu would fetch a ransom. I always stated that contract is essentially really hard to deal.

People in this own city think Ballard is crap including the coach. Yet guys think we can deal him for value with that contract. Lets have a little common sense here.
Swobo56
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 09.28.2009

Mar 6 @ 5:42 PM ET
we want SALO back ...
- Canuckfan2006



Seeing him play now... I can't understand how you let him go.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
If Lu is not gone by TDL I think CS is moved
- VANTEL


I agree totally. I still remember back in 2010 when Rick nash was offered in some sort of deal for Corey and MG said no.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
That trade might work, prob have to be a 1st though...
But adding ovechkin's contact (even though booth & Luongo cancel it out) would kill u guys w the cap going down next year

According to capgeek.com,
U currently have 4mil available next year to sign 8 guys, two of which are Tanev & Schroeder who will get raises
(Tanev more so)

Even if u get rid of booth, ballard, and Luongo and bring in no one significant,
That still only gives u around 17mil to sign 11guys

U guys are in some cap trouble next year for sure

- jdfitz77



Lack Corrado Jensen and Gaunce total 3.35 Mil
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
Seeing him play now... I can't understand how you let him go.
- Swobo56



We would rather spend our cap wisely and sign the likes of Dale Weise
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
My fault then,
I really don't know much about your prospects,
Was just going by what I saw on that website

Is there a better site u know of to get rankings & info on prospects?

- jdfitz77


Not really. There's hockey prospectus, but it's not really any better.

I just meant in terms of their ratings—which are biased, and the people who rate the prospects are not always the most competent.

The sites are decent for getting a bit of info/scouting, but don't put too much stock in the overall grades.

Connauton is a below average defender with an awesome shot—he shouldn't be anywhere close to Gaunce in terms of potential.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:45 PM ET
I am just a hater on a few players. I love the sedins. I love Hamhuis. Big Lu fan. I hate kesler Burrows and Ballard. Think they are useless. Kesler and burrows are good players but I wish we moved Kesler when his value was the highest. I think he is a locker room cancer.

Just cause I am not a blind homer like you guys doesnt make me less of a fan. Some people call it being realistic. You are also the same guy that thought Lu would fetch a ransom. I always stated that contract is essentially really hard to deal.

People in this own city think Ballard is crap including the coach. Yet guys think we can deal him for value with that contract. Lets have a little common sense here.

- Bluechip23


Are you referring to me? Because if so, this is completely false.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:46 PM ET
Lack Corrado Jensen and Gaunce total 3.35 Mil
- VANTEL


Our cap situation is messed up for next year. I dont even know what will happen.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
That trade might work, prob have to be a 1st though...
But adding ovechkin's contact (even though booth & Luongo cancel it out) would kill u guys w the cap going down next year

According to capgeek.com,
U currently have 4mil available next year to sign 8 guys, two of which are Tanev & Schroeder who will get raises (Tanev more so)

Even if u get rid of booth, ballard, and Luongo and bring in no one significant,
That still only gives u around 17mil to sign 11guys

U guys are in some cap trouble next year for sure

- jdfitz77

If Ovi didn't work he is very tradable. Cap problem no. Other players can moved as well the core of this team has been together for a long time. I'm in no way qualified to be a GM but I wouldn't be afraid to make changes that need to be made to stay within the league restrictions.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:49 PM ET
Our cap situation is messed up for next year. I dont even know what will happen.
- Bluechip23


Probably trades or a few buy outs
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:49 PM ET
Kesler Raymond and Garrison for Shattenkirk Oshie and Stewart
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
Lack Corrado Jensen and Gaunce total 3.35 Mil
- VANTEL


0% chance Gaunce makes the team. And I mean ZERO. It's in his and the Canucks best interest to play another year of OHL, and likely a year of AHL.

Corrado likely won't either. It's not the Canucks style to have a prospect skip the AHL. He'll be handled like Tanev was.

Gillis will likely sign a fringe NHL journeyman for the bottom pair.
Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.14.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
Ballard to Det or Phi for a third.
- VANTEL




Ballard is not even close to being an improvment for the Wings now that their D is healthy.
White has even been a heathy scratch.

Canucks should be focusing on trading Shneider

Edit: Just caught that last part......Philp for a 3rd your nuts!
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Mar 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Who could help?
Who could help?

- IanEsplen

James Reimer...
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
This is what boggles my mind. We lose Volpatti for nothing yet TO gets a 3rd/4th essentially for Mike Brown. I really liked Volpatti and to not get nothing for him is brutal. I dont know what MG was thinking when he thought he could sneak him through without getting claimed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
Our cap situation is messed up for next year. I dont even know what will happen.
- Bluechip23



I see Booth Ballard Lu or CS gone and Manny off the books .

Lapierre resigned for 1 mil
Higgins for 2 Mil
Raymond if we can 2.5
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 6 @ 5:52 PM ET
Lack Corrado Jensen and Gaunce total 3.35 Mil
- VANTEL

That was a better answer than mine
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Mar 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
Seeing him play now... I can't understand how you let him go.
- Swobo56

...Gillis wanted to Keep Ballard....almost same amount of salary........go figure...Salo was odd man out........
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
0% chance Gaunce makes the team. And I mean ZERO. It's in his and the Canucks best interest to play another year of OHL, and likely a year of AHL.

Corrado likely won't either. It's not the Canucks style to have a prospect skip the AHL. He'll be handled like Tanev was.

Gillis will likely sign a fringe NHL journeyman for the bottom pair.

- Fosco



Next year is a funny year with the rollbacks . Gillis said we need to get younger and bigger. With AV gone it may be time to bring in young players. Young players are more NHL ready when drafted than 10 years ago.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:56 PM ET
...Gillis wanted to Keep Ballard....almost same amount of salary........go figure...Salo was odd man out........
- Canuckfan2006


Term was also an issue.

With Salo's injury history, I can't blame Gillis for not wanting to match TB's offer. Too risky.

Glad he's doing well, though.
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