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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM ET
Last season after TDL you were calling me Debby Downer for warning everyone that this team would suffer in the scoring department after not replacing Hoff, Samuelsson and Cody... welcome to reality.
- boonerbuck


A Det fan was on the board earlier saying the Canuck could have him—apparently he's not making any fans over there.

Still would be good for the 2nd line...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM ET
Last season after TDL you were calling me Debby Downer for warning everyone that this team would suffer in the scoring department after not replacing Hoff, Samuelsson and Cody... welcome to reality.
- boonerbuck

To be fair, it started well before TDL. About the All Star game our offense went south
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM ET
If I was a betting man I would say Raymond is the best bet to stay. The Canucks have shown far to much patience with him. Raymond also excepted a "rollback" this season. I presume he gets 2.5-3
- Bieksa#3


I agree, Raymond will resign before the deadline, or have a gentleman's agreement to do so after the playoffs (if there are any...)
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM ET
A Det fan was on the board earlier saying the Canuck could have him—apparently he's not making any fans over there.

Still would be good for the 2nd line...

- Fosco

Revisit last season. Booth for Sammy and say a 4th?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM ET
A Det fan was on the board earlier saying the Canuck could have him—apparently he's not making any fans over there.

Still would be good for the 2nd line...

- Fosco


I think he's played all of 2 games this season, been on the IR the whole time (I have him in Ian's pool). Can't contribute when you aren't playing.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM ET
Anyone see that KO wow
- thundachunk


"Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!... Dzuirzynski is sleeping!"

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Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM ET
Kunitz offensive numbers maybe. But not Neal
- Bieksa#3


kunitz is 28 pts in 23 games. id give my left nut for that production from booth.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM ET
Revisit last season. Booth for Sammy and say a 4th?
- Bieksa#3


I wouldn't make any rash changes (trades) during the season, we have until the end of training camp September 2013 to get down to the proposed $64m cap for next year, there is plenty of time in the summer to get there.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM ET
Not a Purcell fan. Booth and 2nd for Torres and vermette?
- Bieksa#3


We could use both of those guys for sure, but my suggestion to acquire them was based on Kesler being moved to the wing, which obviously isn't happening with AV at the helm. I honestly can't even fathom a trade that would make this team a contender with Kesler hog-tying the 2nd line offensively.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM ET
kunitz is 28 pts in 23 games. id give my left nut for that production from booth.
- Bluechip23

Yes he is having a nice season but I'm looking more at his average numbers.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM ET
...Gillis wanted to Keep Ballard....almost same amount of salary........go figure...Salo was odd man out........
- Canuckfan2006


Same thing can be said about letting Hoff go... Ballard for Hoff.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM ET
"Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!... Dzuirzynski is sleeping!"
- As_I_See_It


Wholly smokes! I didn't catch where he got hit so hard, but he must have taken one on the button.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM ET
I agree, but it still affects their value, whether it's a product of the coach, and not of their actual ability.

And, again, what the hell do you have against Purcell? Sounds like it's something personal. Not sure why you'd call a guy a pillow biter, just because he's not physical.

The guy's stats might be a bit inflated for a few reasons, but he's still a very good passer.

- Fosco

I'm not a Purcell fan either I would rather give a Brett Connelly a shot in a third line position.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM ET
I'm not a Purcell fan either I would rather give a Brett Connelly a shot in a third line position.
- thundachunk

I'd sooner have conolly as well. But I can't see them parting with him for Lu
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM ET
I never once said last year when we were discussing it. Why dont you show me where I once said 2010 in my argument with you in regards to Bieksa. I provided evidence on the trade discussion based on the year I was referring to and we moved on. Well I thought we did. But I guess you haven't.
- Bluechip23


BX3 is big on these these kind of accusations. I've called him on it twice in the last three days and a number of times in the last year. Not once has he admitted being mistaken... even when I was backed up by other posters. He doesnt like Bieksa critcism and seems to never forget the culprits.
Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.14.2012

Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
Revisit last season. Booth for Sammy and say a 4th?
- Bieksa#3


No no no!!! You can just have Sammy for a pick......we dont want Booth! our D is coming together now.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
I'm not a Purcell fan either I would rather give a Brett Connelly a shot in a third line position.
- thundachunk


Overall, I'd prefer Connelly, as well, but if AV insists on keeping Kesler at center, that line needs a winger that can distribute the puck, and Purcell is a top6 puck-moving winger—there really aren't too many out there...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM ET
BX3 is big on these these kind of accusations. I've called him on it twice in the last three days and a number of times in the last year. Not once has he admitted being mistaken... even when I was backed up by other posters. He doesnt like Bieksa critcism and seems to never forget the culprits.
- boonerbuck

I've admitted being wrong many times on here. Why is it when ever somebody shares a different opinion then you then you call them down.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM ET
Revisit last season. Booth for Sammy and say a 4th?
- Bieksa#3


I actually want to see Booth for an extended period of time before I make an evaluation on him.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM ET
No no no!!! You can just have Sammy for a pick......we dont want Booth! our D is coming together now.
- Muskoka88

Booth shouldn't affect your d to much. I mean he is a forward
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM ET
Were you present for negotiations, or are you assuming this because the media describes his role in the management structure as such? Personally, I haven't seen Gillis/Gilman pull off anything miraculous. Their UFA "gets" have all begged to come here & taken less to make it happen. Guys re-sign here because the franchise philosophy is everyone has to take a little less to build a perrennial contender... What exactly has he done to be labeled a cap/negotiating wiz? Knowing the CBA better than Feaster isn't enough to qualify... That would make all of us wizzes.
- DrChristianTroy


He's able to get all Gillis' poopty contracts under Cap when it seems very unlikely. Thats worth something. If he had the power to just dump a contract he didnt like then it would probably be his first course of becoming cap compliant but thats Gillis job.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM ET
I actually want to see Booth for an extended period of time before I make an evaluation on him.
- Fosco

While I agree, I'm not sure that is an option. Given our cap situation for the upcoming season
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
While I agree, I'm not sure that is an option. Given our cap situation for the upcoming season
- Bieksa#3


I just mean the rest of the season. If he fails to show any kind of promise, they should get whatever they can for him in the offseason.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
He's able to get all Gillis' poopty contracts under Cap when it seems very unlikely. Thats worth something. If he had the power to just dump a contract he didnt like then it would probably be his first course of becoming cap compliant but thats Gillis job.
- boonerbuck


To be fair, Gillis's good contracts make the job a bit easier, as well.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
I just mean the rest of the season. If he fails to show any kind of promise, they should get whatever they can for him in the offseason.
- Fosco

I'd be alright with that.
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