I prdict the Sabres will have 20Mil coming off the books next year (That icludes a Leino buyout)

So Flynn and Porter are NHL caliber player for the Sabres? we are in trouble. They should be on the first ride back to the AHL.
- SABRES 89

as i was watching last night i was thinking- how can we comptete on a nightly basis with a lineup that includes the likes of flynn, porter, brennan, hecht, gerbe, stafford, hell even grigo at this point. they are fine, theres worse, but after the 1st line its like the roster falls off a cliff...

I've seen enough, they can't. We have and had enough Hecht type players we don't need 2 more.
- SABRES 89

Hecht pre-lockout was one of our better players. Flynn and Porter bring way more to the table than Ellis or McCormick. There certainly not first liners but what are the other options? There not playing first line minutes.

Flynn and Porter bring way more to the table than Ellis or McCormick.
- sbroads24

really? not sure how much more...

as i was watching last night i was thinking- how can we comptete on a nightly basis with a lineup that includes the likes of flynn, porter, brennan, hecht, gerbe, stafford, hell even grigo at this point. they are fine, theres worse, but after the 1st line its like the roster falls off a cliff...
- battelmt

Brennan scored a PP goal last night. Which is the sole reason he is here. Porter is a 4th line center. The problem is not those guys. They can play there 10-12 minutes a night and be fine. The problem is the "regression" of Marcus Foligno and Drew Stafford, we have no true top 6

Hecht pre-lockout was one of our better players. Flynn and Porter bring way more to the table than Ellis or McCormick. There certainly not first liners but what are the other options? There not playing first line minutes.
- sbroads24

They are not scoring 40+. They are no good. They are 3rd line role players that are really good on the D side. It is exactly what you want on the third line. I noticed everytime that line was out there, and not in a bad way.

really? not sure how much more...
- battelmt

Brian Flynn 45 games in Rochester 16 goals 16 assists
Matt Ellis 10 games 0 goals 2 assists.

Matt Ellis is not even a good AHL'er. Flynn has some talent

Sure. What exactly are you expecting? Don't you want to see if these guys can play?
- sbroads24

This is essentially an a super extended pre-season. Might as well play em.

Brian Flynn 45 games in Rochester 16 goals 16 assists
Matt Ellis 10 games 0 goals 2 assists.

Matt Ellis is not even a good AHL'er. Flynn has some talent
- sbroads24

He went 3-0 on faceoffs last night as well

They are not scoring 40+. They are no good. They are 3rd line role players that are really good on the D side. It is exactly what you want on the third line. I noticed everytime that line was out there, and not in a bad way.
- ImThatGuy

It's funny how the Gerbe is an AHL'er comments have slowed down since he has been scoring. Rolston is getting this team to play better. Firing Ruff was literally the best thing to happen to this team in a while

Hecht pre-lockout was one of our better players. Flynn and Porter bring way more to the table than Ellis or McCormick. There certainly not first liners but what are the other options? There not playing first line minutes.
- sbroads24

Opinions vary

as i was watching last night i was thinking- how can we comptete on a nightly basis with a lineup that includes the likes of flynn, porter, brennan, hecht, gerbe, stafford, hell even grigo at this point. they are fine, theres worse, but after the 1st line its like the roster falls off a cliff...
- battelmt

Facts mean nothing here

Facts mean nothing here
- SABRES 89

Except that is not a fact "He was thinking" = his opinion

Hecht pre-lockout was one of our better players. Flynn and Porter bring way more to the table than Ellis or McCormick. There certainly not first liners but what are the other options? There not playing first line minutes.
- sbroads24

Ill take a handfull of hecht type players. Sign me up

It's funny how the Gerbe is an AHL'er comments have slowed down since he has been scoring. Rolston is getting this team to play better. Firing Ruff was literally the best thing to happen to this team in a while
- sbroads24

I still wouldn't care if Gerbe wasn't here.

It's funny how the Gerbe is an AHL'er comments have slowed down since he has been scoring. Rolston is getting this team to play better. Firing Ruff was literally the best thing to happen to this team in a while
- sbroads24

Gerbe does nothing for me. He scored 3 goals, great. He was the main reason Carolina scored the GWG. Had 3 chances to get the puck out of the zone and could not. I always see him falling and just being tossed around.

The Gerbe--Ennis--Ott line, I cannot stand.

It's funny how the Gerbe is an AHL'er comments have slowed down since he has been scoring. Rolston is getting this team to play better. Firing Ruff was literally the best thing to happen to this team in a while
- sbroads24

This. As depressing as being last in goals against and second last in puck possesion is, Rolston is applying a new logic to the situation.

EDIT: Last in shots against. Maybe goals too I dont know.

Hecht pre-lockout was one of our better players. Flynn and Porter bring way more to the table than Ellis or McCormick. There certainly not first liners but what are the other options? There not playing first line minutes.
- sbroads24

The most recent lockout? Really, one of our better players?

I still wouldn't care if Gerbe wasn't here.
- dadeadhead

Rolston Sabres> Ruff Sabres

Not even close anymore. I'm willing to give these guys time with him. Were not a contender, and sending Gerbe and Flynn to Rochester to nothing to change that

The most recent lockout? Really, one of our better players?
- druryisclutch

04-05. He was a very good player for us for a long time. People have amnesia.

04-05. He was a very good player for us for a long time. People have amnesia.
- sbroads24

I hated his salary but he was a good player for us for a bunch of years there.

04-05. He was a very good player for us for a long time. People have amnesia.
- sbroads24

I was on the same page as you 04-05 is the lockout this time around needs a new name like extended break season or shortend season

04-05. He was a very good player for us for a long time. People have amnesia.
- sbroads24

My memory is fine. Scott Gomez was also one of the league's leading scores pre-2004 lockout. So what!! I am not sure why Hecht being a decent player then has to do with why he is still on the team now. You do remember that 2004 was 9 years ago right?

My memory is fine. Scott Gomez was one of the league's leading scores pre-2004 lockout. So what!! I am not sure why Hecht being a decent player then has to do with why he is still on the team now. You do remember that 2004 was 9 years ago right?
- druryisclutch

Which part of Hecht type player did you not understand?

04-05. He was a very good player for us for a long time. People have amnesia.
- sbroads24

He was a solid #3 line player back in the day - you would pair him against the other teams top line and he would do a solid defensive job...players like Hecht were valuable when you had 2 lines that could score - now we only have 4 players that can score (Vanek line & Ennis)

The 2 biggest gaping holes on this team that kill us - complete lack of a #2 line and a lack of a physical steady presence on defense - our defense is a bunch of finessee players except for Regehr who has regressed into the 2nd coming of Craig Rivet

Myers and Ehroff need to be split and complimented with physical stay-at-home defenders so they can do their thing...they do not work together...