Yup .This team needs big changes but lets wait until the offseason so we can get a high drft pick.
- VANTEL

Wouldn't matter if they had the top pick. They would screw it up. Probably pick an American kid from high school that was a 13th forward or 7th defence man on his team

Edlers a number 3 d-man now? Hamhuis, too eh? I would rank them both in the top 30 in the NHL. CHI has two of the best D-men in the league, and if both were signed to new contracts this year lime Edler, they would demand 6 million plus each. Boston, outside of Chara, I would take Edler and Hamhuis over any others and again Chara is paid way more money. Nashville, the same with Boston with Weber instead of Chara. WPG? Their defense sucks outside of Buff and Bogosian and I don't consider those 2 better all-around d-men than Hamhuis or Edler. Phoenix, outside of Ekman-Larsson, I would take Edler and Hamhuis by a tad over Yandle. LA, outside of Doughty, I would take those over anyone again. And again, Doughty gets paid 7 million.
- Nucker101

But you think everything is always sunshine and roses with the Canucks and I always think the opposite. The recent slide and the early exit from last years playoffs show me ,that I am more correct. We are lucky we play in a sh!t division.

Who the hell said i was looking for attention?
Im just expressing my opinion
Btw we are going have a really tough time to win a cup this year if we play like this...
- RF_4eva

Relax. I'm just harassing you.

Every team has a tough time winning the Cup. It's a tough thing to do.

Quite a few, including depth players and players that are considered to be struggling(Doughty for example) that have really strong advanced stats. Hell, just read some of Yost's blogs if you need convincing. They aren't always right, but they're more accurate than the doubters think.
- Nucker101

I find alot of that bollocks tbh. It has like Vancouver (no offense) in 3rd and Anaheim in like 25th or something. I don't understand how they come to those assumptions.
P.S. I didn't mean offense like scoring goals, i mean it like i'm not trolling.

Where do you see this team finishing in the standings? Just curious.
- Nucker101

Well seeing this division sucks they could end 3 in position .

If Minny or Edm ever decide to win a game we will finish 12 th

Wouldn't matter if they had the top pick. They would screw it up. Probably pick an American kid from high school that was a 13th forward or 7th defence man on his team
- manvanfan

Sad but true

And the Canucks once again play slump busters...

Relax. I'm just harassing you.

Every team has a tough time winning the Cup. It's a tough thing to do.
- Fosco

I need to confess....
I am sorry that i talk back to you my lord
*Goes down on knees and looks down in shame*

Wouldn't matter if they had the top pick. They would screw it up. Probably pick an American kid from high school that was a 13th forward or 7th defence man on his team
- manvanfan

Wouldn't matter if they had the top pick. They would screw it up. Probably pick an American kid from high school that was a 13th forward or 7th defence man on his team
- manvanfan

But he would get another kassian so we would have the kassian twins

I need to confess....
I am sorry that i talk back to you my lord
*Goes down on knees and looks down in shame*

- RF_4eva

Canucks are like a cheating wife, They are driving this family apart

Nucker and I have been disagreeing for two years now but he is a cool dude and same with Fosc

Quite a few, including depth players and players that are considered to be struggling(Doughty for example) that have really strong advanced stats. Hell, just read some of Yost's blogs if you need convincing. They aren't always right, but they're more accurate than the doubters think.
- Nucker101

So your example for the general accuracy of advanced stats is using an underperforming large cap hit player from a team that's not living up to its potential... Okay...

But he would get another kassian so we would have the kassian twins
- RF_4eva

We need Seth

But you think everything is always sunshine and roses with the Canucks and I always think the opposite. The recent slide and the early exit from last years playoffs show me ,that I am more correct. We are lucky we play in a sh!t division.
- VANTEL

Nope, I just try to be realistic but I guess I come off as the optimist since the players always being criticized or that people want traded, are good players that this team would be much worse without. Again, I can be convinced when someone provides a valid argument, ask Booner, Fosco or DCT. Again, I never said that this team is SCF contender and the Canucks are in great position, it seems like you think that when all I'm really saying is that Edler has been overcriticized and is crucial to this team.

And the Canucks once again play slump busters...
- vancity787

San Jose had 5 forwards without a goal this year, going into the game.

2 down , 3 to go.

Canucks are like a cheating wife, They are driving this family apart

Nucker and I have been disagreeing for two years now but he is a cool dude and same with Fosc
- VANTEL

You too, bud.

We may disagree on Eder, but I think we're on the same page about many other things.

Definite personnel changes are needed, including behind the bench.

The way Booth has been playing, he'd have a few goals if he wasn't stuck out there with Lapierre. Such different styles... (frank) I hate AV.

I find alot of that bollocks tbh. It has like Vancouver (no offense) in 3rd and Anaheim in like 25th or something. I don't understand how they come to those assumptions.
P.S. I didn't mean offense like scoring goals, i mean it like i'm not trolling.
- walshyleafsfan

That was based on shooting %'s among other things that very few people even udnerstand(that formula is just cray cray ), Anaheim has gotten pretty lucky so far and is due for a letdown, same with Toronto. We'll see what happens though, if both those teams keep it up then obviously Fenwick loses some credibility.

Nope, I just try to be realistic but I guess I come off as the optimist since the players always being criticized or that people want traded, are good players that this team would be much worse without. Again, I can be convinced when someone provides a valid argument, ask Booner, Fosco or DCT. Again, I never said that this team is SCF contender and the Canucks are in great position, it seems like you think that when all I'm really saying is that Edler has been overcriticized and is crucial to this team.
- Nucker101

You think that Edler has been playing like a 5 Mil Dman this year?

You too, bud.

We may disagree on Eder, but I think we're on the same page about many other things.

Definite personnel changes are needed, including behind the bench.
- Fosco

And the Canucks once again play slump busters...
- vancity787

Gomez and Burish....F-U-G-L-Y!

Canucks are like a cheating wife, They are driving this family apart

Nucker and I have been disagreeing for two years now but he is a cool dude and same with Fosc
- VANTEL

so true
If only we had that miracle man that can take us to the top... Im not asking for a gretzky but a leader that give us a chance to win anytime during the game no matter what the score is... Like a toews or crosby

So your example for the general accuracy of advanced stats is using an underperforming large cap hit player from a team that's not living up to its potential... Okay...
- DrChristianTroy

There's more(better) examples but that was an obvious one that I can remember without checking any sites since he's been criticized this year for poor play but in reality his on-ice shooting %'s are lower than career normals and will normalize and he's also playing harder minutes(higher QOC and less offesnive zone starts) but still doing good, puck possession-wise.

You think that Edler has been playing like a 5 Mil Dman this year?
- VANTEL

I do, yes.

I think overall, he's been the most effective D other than Hamhuis, who I also believe is also worth 5 million, if he were to sign a contract this year.

Canucks are like a cheating wife, They are driving this family apart

Nucker and I have been disagreeing for two years now but he is a cool dude and same with Fosc
- VANTEL

Just a good hockey conversation, never hurts to have a disagreement and an argument.