Anyone interested in an injured Tarasenko? I could use a D man or a Goalie offers?
- thundachunk

They would want your avatar instead of tarasenko

Did you look at the flyer girls? I mean seriously.

Butter face all of them
- Greg7705

At least you can now BOTH watch the hockey game.

Is it just me or is the west weaker this year?

Lets wager our players.
- pker2theend

Who do you have in mind? You don't have much I would want

Anyone interested in an injured Tarasenko? I could use a D man or a Goalie offers?
- thundachunk

Not too interested in him, but I'm willing to move a goalie.

Who do you have in mind? You don't have much I would want
- 1970vintage

Kiss my hairy beanbag
- VANTEL

Demers for Bieksa

Tom Kostopilous(sp) on waivers

Only way that happens

1) Corey lights out
2) Barker and Ballard are a ++
3) Raymond out plays Logan
4) Niemi is avg
5) refs call a good game
6) Southsiders are loud enough for the nucks to hear them
7) AV plays Kassian on top 6
8) elder plays unlike elder
9) Sedins 3 points each
10) MG's face is not so red
- Greg7705

Really don't understand why everybody thinks Edler is having such a bad season.

His Rel Corsi QoC is far better than any other defenseman on the team.

He makes mistakes, for sure, but so have most of the D this season.

Bottom line is when he's on the ice, far more chances are generated against the other team than on the Canucks, and he faces the other teams best players more often than not.

Tom Kostopilous(sp) on waivers
- Bieksa#3

I'd take him over Weise, at this point.

I'd take him over Weise, at this point.
- Fosco

Same here. But he won't get claimed if they want to give Pinni a chance and don't want to waive Weise.

Really don't understand why everybody thinks Edler is having such a bad season.

His Rel Corsi QoC is far better than any other defenseman on the team.

He makes mistakes, for sure, but so have most of the D this season.

Bottom line is when he's on the ice, far more chances are generated against the other team than on the Canucks, and he faces the other teams best players more often than not.
- Fosco

Exactly, he's playing the toughest competition to of all the d-men too, Tanev and Ballard have had the easiest assignments. It's no coincidence that Edler is getting much more criticism in general than those two. Switch their roles and there would be Edler Norris talk from the homers and Tanev/Ballard would get lit up IMO.

Exactly, he's playing the toughest competition to of all the d-men too, Tanev and Ballard have had the easiest assignments. It's no coincidence that Edler is getting much more criticism in general than those two. Switch their roles and there would be Edler Norris talk from the homers and Tanev/Ballard would get lit up IMO.
- Nucker101

It's just another case of when a player becomes a whipping boy...

I've been disappointed with some of Edler's play this year, but for every mistake he makes, there's a dozen great plays that nobody ever mentions...

Demers for Bieksa
- TheNugeIsHuge

RNH for my dog's poop.

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Exactly, he's playing the toughest competition to of all the d-men too, Tanev and Ballard have had the easiest assignments. It's no coincidence that Edler is getting much more criticism in general than those two. Switch their roles and there would be Edler Norris talk from the homers and Tanev/Ballard would get lit up IMO.
- Nucker101

No they wouldn't.

... and what's so easy about the assignment to play with the biggest plugs on the team? Ask anyone which role they'd rather have... That, or shifts with the Sedins where the opposition rarely gets to possess the puck for any meaningful length of time.

Having said all that, I assume the only reason people are giving Edler sh!t is because he just signed an extension to become our highest paid d-man. With the contract comes the scrutiny.

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#Canucks #1 draft pick Nicklas Jensen plays his final game in the Swedish Elite League tonight and plans to be in Chicago Friday.


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Jensen told CKWX this morning that playing pro in Sweden was the right move - it's getting him ready for #Wolves and #Canucks.

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Jensen looking forward to improving his game in Chicago where gm Wendell Young says he will get tons of ice time.

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Jensen says he's looking forward to "doing his best in Chicago and getting called up by the #Canucks".

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Jensen says if he's asked to play this weekend by the #Wolves - he will.
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- Fosco

No they wouldn't.

... and what's so easy about the assignment to play with the biggest plugs on the team? Ask anyone which role they'd rather have... That, or shifts with the Sedins where the opposition rarely gets to possess the puck for any meaningful length of time.

Having said all that, I assume the only reason people are giving edler sh!t is because he just signed an extension to become our highest paid d-man. With the contract comes the scrutiny.
- DrChristianTroy

The advanced stats show they they've been pretty mediocre(shots for/against) during the last 2 seasons against other teams third and 4th lines, but you could be right about the fact that they've been put out their with the 4th line at times but 5 on 5, I've seen AV put both of them out when they were a pair with the Twins, especially earlier in the seasons, which coincidentally was when the Sedins were struggling by their standards. Tanev looks like one of those players that can't be judged by the advanced stats though, he always seems to make the right play, but clearly the 4th line is still an issue if they're getting out played by other team's 4th lines on a regular basis.

It's just another case of when a player becomes a whipping boy...

I've been disappointed with some of Edler's play this year, but for every mistake he makes, there's a dozen great plays that nobody ever mentions...
- Fosco

ED bk3 and Ham I don't worry about. Mistakes are gonna happen when they stop improving on the mistakes is when I will worry. I won't be hugely critical of them unless its costing us numerous goals and games. Tanev is a real treat to watch this year and has a great first pass as good as Hamhuis. To sum it up I am not overly impressed with D this year but have seen a gradual improvement in all. I am however worried about offence and extremely unhappy with Coaching. AV and his staff have become a detriment IMO.

No they wouldn't.

... and what's so easy about the assignment to play with the biggest plugs on the team? Ask anyone which role they'd rather have... That, or shifts with the Sedins where the opposition rarely gets to possess the puck for any meaningful length of time.

Having said all that, I assume the only reason people are giving Edler sh!t is because he just signed an extension to become our highest paid d-man. With the contract comes the scrutiny.
- DrChristianTroy

I recall seeing Ballard/Tanev out with the Sedins for a significant number of shifts. I think what Fosco is talking about is that B/T typically get offensive zone starts (with or without SSB) and at home that might mean a line matching advantage for the Canucks, therefore an easier assignment than a defensive zone start with Lapiere/Weise/Volpatti on the ice. I'm just guessing though.

The advanced stats show they they've been pretty mediocre(shots for/against) during the last 2 seasons against other teams third and 4th lines, but you could be right about the fact that they've been put out their with the 4th line at times but 5 on 5, I've seen AV put both of them out when they were a pair with the Twins, especially earlier in the seasons, which coincidentally was when the Sedins were struggling by their standards. Tanev looks like one of those players that can't be judged by the advanced stats though, he always seems to make the right play, but clearly the 4th line is still an issue if they're getting out played by other team's 4th lines on a regular basis.
- Nucker101

I'd like to see how many points Tanev would have if he got 4 mins per game of PP time like Edler does. He's the slickest cheekiest passer we've had on the back end in as long as I can remember... Instead, they put an extra forward high on the 1st unit with Edler and that forward is usually doing (frank) all.

I just stuck up for Edler, but he should have more than 12points for the role he plays on this team.

For any who haven't heard;

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#Canucks #1 draft pick Nicklas Jensen plays his final game in the Swedish Elite League tonight and plans to be in Chicago Friday.


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Jensen told CKWX this morning that playing pro in Sweden was the right move - it's getting him ready for #Wolves and #Canucks.

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Jensen looking forward to improving his game in Chicago where gm Wendell Young says he will get tons of ice time.
WOW extremely excited. Oh wait AV will probably destroy him.
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Jensen says he's looking forward to "doing his best in Chicago and getting called up by the #Canucks".

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Jensen says if he's asked to play this weekend by the #Wolves - he will.
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- Fosco

I recall seeing Ballard/Tanev out with the Sedins for a significant number of shifts. I think what Fosco is talking about is that B/T typically get offensive zone starts (with or without SSB) and at home that might mean a line matching advantage for the Canucks, therefore an easier assignment than a defensive zone start with Lapiere/Weise/Volpatti on the ice. I'm just guessing though.
- 1970vintage

What Fosco is also talking about is the QOC stat(Quality Of Competition), it measures the quality of opponents faced by how many minutes their opponents usually play..if that makes sense. Like first liners typically play about 16-20 minutes so if Edler is out there on many shifts against forwards that play those many minutes, the stat assumes that they are high quality competition. And vice-versa with Ballard/Tanev.

Pretty cool...

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