gunner2233
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 02.17.2013
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gunner2233
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 02.17.2013
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Yeah, I assumed the same with Garrison. It really makes you wonder about Gillis now though. I would definitely move Ballard for a RHD or move Ballard for a pick and then make a move for a RHD. - Nucker101
Frankie Corrado is that guy next year I bet, he could be the next version of Tanev. The guy who outplayed Ryan Murray at Junior Camp. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I don't remember anyone saying a word about advanced stats when the trade went down. The consensus was pretty much always that the Canucks lost the more talented player in the deal.
Advanced stats only go so far. Hodgson was never called a bad player—he had, and still has defensive issues. He's a good enough offensive player that they will even out in the long run. - Fosco
Cody plays Sedin style defense... puck possesion and pick pocketting. I definitly think he'll be just fine in the defensive catagory in the future. Its only his sophmore season and made a huge jump from 3rd line to 1st line in one year. He's proving he can do it offensively on the 1st line but he's is exposed often. I think he'd be spectacular on a solid second line right now.... and a team with a healthy D which has barely happened for a short string of games since he was traded to the Sabers.
I keep hearing people say that Hodgson already showed he couldnt handle the second line with the chance he was given here.... really? It was the first 20 games of his rookie year and he was being bounced in and out of the spot the entire time. This season would be a different story as we can now see. Buffalo doesnt have the players to support a defesively inexperinced player and there's no any mentoring going on there. If it were not for bad relations with a asswhole coach, we would have strength down the middle and two potent PP units. We wouldnt have Kassian but there were players available like Downie and Ott... others I have forgotten... but they were not on the exclussive 5 player list that Kassian was on..... |
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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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Cody plays Sedin style defense... puck possesion and pick pocketting. I definitly think he'll be just fine in the defensive catagory in the future. Its only his sophmore season and made a huge jump from 3rd line to 1st line in one year. He's proving he can do it offensively on the 1st line but he's is exposed often. I think he'd be spectacular on a solid second line right now.... and a team with a healthy D which has barely happened for a short string of games since he was traded to the Sabers.
I keep hearing people say that Hodgson already showed he couldnt handle the second line with the chance he was given here.... really? It was the first 20 games of his rookie year and he was being bounced in and out of the spot the entire time. This season would be a different story as we can now see. Buffalo doesnt have the players to support a defesively inexperinced player and there's no any mentoring going on there. If it were not for bad relations with a asswhole coach, we would have strength down the middle and two potent PP units. We wouldnt have Kassian but there were players available like Downie and Ott... others I have forgotten... but they were not on the exclussive 5 player list that Kassian was on..... - boonerbuck
Move on and get over it...
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Chapsz28
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Canada, AB Joined: 02.18.2008
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Canucks are 10-2-2 in the last 3 seasons against Sharks, also beat the Sharks in 5 games couple years ago in playoffs; the Sharks have been the best regular season team statistically since the lockout and the Canucks are right there with them. It's hilarious when people always say that the Canucks are only good because of there weak division. There supposed to do well in there division, and they do. A team like Calgary/Edmonton will only beat Vancouver if its like a back to back snowstorm or a goalie injury, cheesy shootout against all odds etc. Then it's like one of there high points of the year. - gunner2233
Lol... or winning game #7 of the first round where you were heavily favored to win, but choked and almost lost is the highlight of your franchise.. lol |
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Move on and get over it... - Whiskey-Tango
+1 on this. Cody's gone - not coming back. I'm more concerned about moves which will help the team out this year and years to come |
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The NW division reminds me of the Olympic Womens Chinese badminton semi final game. Here you take it , no you take it, I don't want it. |
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I don't remember anyone saying a word about advanced stats when the trade went down. The consensus was pretty much always that the Canucks lost the more talented player in the deal.
Advanced stats only go so far. Hodgson was never called a bad player—he had, and still has defensive issues. He's a good enough offensive player that they will even out in the long run. - Fosco
Kassian is a weak defensive player. HE doesn't skate. CoHo is small, but he competes. Look at both of their numbers. I have moved on, but don't pretend we didn't lose that trade |
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Hodgson is top 6 on the worst team in the East though, thats probably why there not that good. He was 3rd liner with us. Kassian's awesome, love that guy, he's only gonna get better. We needed that size and toughness so bad. - gunner2233
Do you actually watch the games. Kassian has been terrible. He was good for 4 games this year and disappeared for the rest. He does not skate hard, seems lazy to me. I think to get anything out of him he will need play with the sedins and be treated like a baby. Atleast when Coho was here he produced with 3rd line minutes. |
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I know Fosco and Nucker are going to disagree but losing is good . I would rather draft top 10 than 20 + .
MG will not change coaching staff if the Canucks are sitting on the fence, they need to suck. |
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Adam Proteau@Proteautype
Toronto passes Chicago to become North America's 4th-biggest city, but is prepared to drop back to 5th in a straight-up trade for the Hawks.
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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 10.24.2010
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Why to we keep losing when we're outplaying the other teams |
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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 10.24.2010
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I know Fosco and Nucker are going to disagree but losing is good . I would rather draft top 10 than 20 + .
MG will not change coaching staff if the Canucks are sitting on the fence, they need to suck. - VANTEL
It's about peaking at the right time. Hopefully they start clicking with 10 games to go. |
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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 10.24.2010
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Do you actually watch the games. Kassian has been terrible. He was good for 4 games this year and disappeared for the rest. He does not skate hard, seems lazy to me. I think to get anything out of him he will need play with the sedins and be treated like a baby. Atleast when Coho was here he produced with 3rd line minutes. - JPlatt915
......Did you not watch him last night? or the night before? He's been pretty damn solid. He went through a lull when Kesler came back and as soon as Kesler leaves everybody starts playing a little better. |
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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 10.24.2010
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Kassian is a weak defensive player. HE doesn't skate. CoHo is small, but he competes. Look at both of their numbers. I have moved on, but don't pretend we didn't lose that trade - JPlatt915
Move on you loser or gtfo. Hodgson is a weak little b*tch who's clearly stopped his development. What you see is what you get and he's a second liner at best. No team will win with him as a first line center. He's barely improved since we drafted him. The sky is the limit for Kassian. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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First!
- Nucker101
Can't stop a beach ball, and you guys still lost, and Gomer scored.. |
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Move on you loser or gtfo. Hodgson is a weak little b*tch who's clearly stopped his development. What you see is what you get and he's a second liner at best. No team will win with him as a first line center. He's barely improved since we drafted him. The sky is the limit for Kassian. - Boinker
I think you are bang on sayoing Coho is a 2nd line center. But the sky is the limit stuff needs to stop. Kassian should still be in the AHL, he does not skate well enough or hard enough to play in the NHL right now. Stop trying to force him into a roll he is not prepared for. HE was a line power forward that could dominate with his size in Juniors. He never even played well in the AHL. He needs to transition into the roll of Checker, as he is not nearly a strong enough skater to skate in the top 6. That will take time. Eventually he will be a solid checking line forward that can drop the gloves. Once he realizes that he is not a pretty scoring winger, he can start focusing on learning his trade. |
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It's about peaking at the right time. Hopefully they start clicking with 10 games to go. - Boinker
Even if they peek at the right time, this team is not deep enough to go far. There is nothing wrong with taking a step back and reloading.
If you look at the overall picture there are some holes to be filled and now would be an excellent time in this shortened season to do it.
Raymond and Hansen look good together and can provide a secondary threat. Get them another speedster partner .
Turn Keslers line into a piss and vinegar line that shuts down annoys and chips in.
Get that true puck moving D and a 3 rd paing D . |
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I think you are bang on sayoing Coho is a 2nd line center. But the sky is the limit stuff needs to stop. Kassian should still be in the AHL, he does not skate well enough or hard enough to play in the NHL right now. Stop trying to force him into a roll he is not prepared for. HE was a line power forward that could dominate with his size in Juniors. He never even played well in the AHL. He needs to transition into the roll of Checker, as he is not nearly a strong enough skater to skate in the top 6. That will take time. Eventually he will be a solid checking line forward that can drop the gloves. Once he realizes that he is not a pretty scoring winger, he can start focusing on learning his trade. - JPlatt915
Kassian should not be in the AHL. When he played with the Sedins ,he was our top scorer. AV has not put him back since then. Put Kass on the PP with the Sedins . AV has to be one of the worse coaches in Canuck history. I wish he was fired this year. We have 3 new kids that should be coming into the lineup next year and they will be destroyed under AV. We will get to see Weise and Rome type players getting plenty of icetime while young guys play 4 th line minutes.
I bet Garrison becomes AVs new whipping boy after Ballard is gone. |
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Next year we should change our name to Slumbusters and remove the Orca off the jersey and have AVs picture on the front and a big old ass on the back.
I will say it before someone else says it . We will have a picture of an ass on the back and the front. |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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Kassian is a weak defensive player. HE doesn't skate. CoHo is small, but he competes. Look at both of their numbers. I have moved on, but don't pretend we didn't lose that trade - JPlatt915
Who the (frank) is pretending. I can't count how many times I've said Kassian has defensive deficiencies. And I've not once claimed we won the trade.
Maybe you should get a little context before you start accusing people.
My comment was about the fact that advanced stats were not what most were bringing up at the time of the trade, it was Cody's defensive play.
WTF is this guy? |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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I know Fosco and Nucker are going to disagree but losing is good . I would rather draft top 10 than 20 + .
MG will not change coaching staff if the Canucks are sitting on the fence, they need to suck. - VANTEL
There are fantastic players available throughout the 1st round and into the 2nd. It's a very deep draft.
Losing is never good. It's pathetic. A team's fans should always want their team to win.
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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I think you are bang on sayoing Coho is a 2nd line center. But the sky is the limit stuff needs to stop. Kassian should still be in the AHL, he does not skate well enough or hard enough to play in the NHL right now. Stop trying to force him into a roll he is not prepared for. HE was a line power forward that could dominate with his size in Juniors. He never even played well in the AHL. He needs to transition into the roll of Checker, as he is not nearly a strong enough skater to skate in the top 6. That will take time. Eventually he will be a solid checking line forward that can drop the gloves. Once he realizes that he is not a pretty scoring winger, he can start focusing on learning his trade. - JPlatt915
Way off base.
Kassian's AHL numbers are better than Hodgson's. 49/71 for Hodgson; 46/58 for Kassian.
And despite a slightly lower pace this year on the Wolves than on the Amercs, Kassian (along with Schroeder) was the Wolves best offensive player.
So I'm going to guess you didn't actually watch any Wolves games this year... |
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HurriKane
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Lake Geneva , WI Joined: 01.20.2008
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What do guys think about that youtube LIve postgame thingy on your official website ? I thought it s pretty cool . |
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RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Fosco's son, BC Joined: 09.11.2012
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There are fantastic players available throughout the 1st round and into the 2nd. It's a very deep draft.
Losing is never good. It's pathetic. A team's fans should always want their team to win. - Fosco
whats the point in winning when we just lose terribly in the playoffs?
We need to start losing so MG can finally realize that he cant stick we the same team and hop we win a cup... |
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