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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:33 PM ET
That was based on shooting %'s among other things that very few people even udnerstand(that formula is just cray cray ), Anaheim has gotten pretty lucky so far and is due for a letdown, same with Toronto. We'll see what happens though, if both those teams keep it up then obviously Fenwick loses some credibility.
- Nucker101



I am old school . I don't even know where to begin to look up Corsi stats but I have an elephants memory . I remember seeing Edler being out deked or screwing up.

I wouldn't know where to find stats or files of Edler breaking his stick about 10 times last year on the PP as he was going to shoot , but i know that happened.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:33 PM ET
There's more(better) examples but that was an obvious one that I can remember without checking any sites since he's been criticized this year for poor play but in reality his on-ice shooting %'s are lower than career normals and will normalize and he's also playing harder minutes(higher QOC and less offesnive zone starts) but still doing good, puck possession-wise.
- Nucker101


My point is none of that matters if the player and team are traditionally underperforming. It's as relevant as you want it to be. Like a Horoscope.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 11:34 PM ET
Maybe we should scout a family with a bunch of boys. Like sutter or staals and draft them all
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:35 PM ET
Just a good hockey conversation, never hurts to have a disagreement and an argument.
- Nucker101



Doesn't bother me at all. If we all agreed this would be one boring site.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:35 PM ET
You think that Edler has been playing like a 5 Mil Dman this year?
- VANTEL



Yes I do based on the numbers I believe in and knowing Edler's ability. He's going to be one of those players this year that will get little to no praise for good games, but lots of blame for bad/average games(every d-man has them besides the truly elite guys liek Karlsson, Lidstrom, Chara, etc,) in losses.

Hell, some Hawks fans were all over Duncan Keith a couple of years ago even though he's a very good d-man.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:35 PM ET
Maybe we should scout a family with a bunch of boys. Like sutter or staals and draft them all
- manvanfan



Brothers usually have chemistry
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:36 PM ET
Ballard just saw the press box flash before his eyes.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:37 PM ET
I am old school . I don't even know where to begin to look up Corsi stats but I have an elephants memory . I remember seeing Edler being out deked or screwing up.

I wouldn't know where to find stats or files of Edler breaking his stick about 10 times last year on the PP as he was going to shoot , but i know that happened.

- VANTEL



Fair enough.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:38 PM ET
Yes I do based on the numbers I believe in and knowing Edler's ability. He's going to be one of those players this year that will get little to no praise for good games, but lots of blame for bad/average games(every d-man has them besides the truly elite guys liek Karlsson, Lidstrom, Chara, etc,) in losses.

Hell, some Hawks fans were all over Duncan Keith a couple of years ago even though he's a very good d-man.

- Nucker101



I see Edler being a rollercoaster for his career. I want someone more reliable
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:38 PM ET
Woahhh baby!
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:38 PM ET
Nice.

Really like that line. Too bad Raymond can't win a faceoff, or it could stick.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:39 PM ET
My point is none of that matters if the player and team are traditionally underperforming. It's as relevant as you want it to be. Like a Horoscope.
- DrChristianTroy



Lets jsut agree to disagree here. FYI I've read that a few NHL teams do take those stats pretty seriously when evaluating players.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:39 PM ET
Doesn't bother me at all. If we all agreed this would be one boring site.
- VANTEL



Exactly.



Edit: I just agreed with you.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
I see Edler being a rollercoaster for his career. I want someone more reliable
- VANTEL


The thing is, he's less of a "roller coaster" than Bieksa.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
That bearded guy who sits where the top green man usually sits always gives the penalty taker a peripheral staredown.

Creepy mother(frank)er.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
Raymond Hansen.

AV stop being an idiot put JS between them. If you don't want JS there trade him and get a true 4 th liner
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
Maybe we should scout a family with a bunch of boys. Like sutter or staals and draft them all
- manvanfan



vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:41 PM ET
Thats it. I've contemplated long enough. Im getting a Hansen Jersey!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:42 PM ET
Nice.

Really like that line. Too bad Raymond can't win a faceoff, or it could stick.

- Fosco



Raymond and Hansen have some great chemistry, just stick JS in between them or maybe acquire a center at the TDL for them if they don't like Schroeder in the top 9.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:43 PM ET
That bearded guy who sits where the top green man usually sits always gives the penalty taker a peripheral staredown.

Creepy mother(frank)er.

- DrChristianTroy



I've noticed that dude as well, he also does this creepy smile when he sees the camera. He must have season tickets.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 11:43 PM ET
Okay here are the Canucks plans.
Get rid of the French coach.
Trade Kessler for anything not always injuried.
Trade Higgins and booth for there identicals but in the form of Canadians.
Scour the world for at least one more Hansen.
Ballard for a new washing machine.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:44 PM ET
Thats it. I've contemplated long enough. Im getting a Bieber Jersey!
- vancity787

That's weird
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:45 PM ET
Okay here are the Canucks plans.
Get rid of the French coach.
Trade Kessler for anything not always injuried.
Trade Higgins and booth for there identicals but in the form of Canadians.
Scour the world for at least one more Hansen.
Ballard for a new washing machine.

- manvanfan



I think that they should just fire everyone, trade every single player even the one's everyone likes and tank for first overall and become the new Jackets/Panthers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:45 PM ET
That's weird
- whipper334



DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:46 PM ET
Lets jsut agree to disagree here. FYI I've read that a few NHL teams do take those stats pretty seriously when evaluating players.
- Nucker101


One of them is the Canucks, and they've been getting worse since they started taking them seriously. Gillis relies on UFA's begging to come here, prospects falling to our pick in the draft, and Burke/Nonis players wanting to stay here... Otherwise, his method of evaluating talent is shiite.
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