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LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Mar 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
You're a hard man, Hubie. A hard, hard man.
- mes418


Get a room.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 5 @ 1:53 PM ET
The Sens are quickly becoming my #2 team. Their ability to persevere with these ridiculous injuries is incredible.
- gilbert pierogi


they're getting healthy now, or starting too.

karlsson is a write off for the season, but michalek will play tomorrow, anderson is probably only about a week away, max, and all indications are that spezza could be back by early april. things are starting to look up, now we jsut need to hold on til then.
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 5 @ 1:53 PM ET
what if we trade for him (pommer and a 1st or 2nd for Perry)

then sign him to 8 mil for 6 seasons.....

i dont think he'd say no to 8 mil?
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
i know this has nothing to do with this thread, but i need the opinion of sabres fans.....

i'm having a discussion/argument with another sabres fan (kingkong something or other) in the ducks blog, about trading for corey perry.

he seems to think that trading pomminville for corey perry (signed to an extention) straight up, is a fair deal, and pommer and a 1st is an overpayment.

please tell me it's not just me, and that this person is actually on crack if he thinks that's even close to enough to get perry.

- sensarmy_11

No, it would have to be Pommer +. Perry's production puts him more on the Vanek level (and that could start an argument in of itself, which I'm not particularly interested in).
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
actually, you're EXACT WORDS were
- sensarmy_11


You are taking that one line, and ignoring everything else I said...

-perry wouldn't sign here
-I'm not giving up Pominville + for a rental

And besides all that,
Pominville for Perry straight up is a pretty fair deal
Who scored more points last year?
And Pominville has 3 more goals than Perry this year!

You are acting like Perry is some superstars way out of Pominville's league... But that's only true in name recognition,
Not ACTUAL production

AND Perry will cost significantly more than Pommer,
And with the cap going down, that is also a significant factor
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
What did he say
- nazz4226


standard uneducated national commentary. dirty, malicious, kaletas a bum blahhhhhhhhh...

said at one point how kaleta should have just cleared the puck because the sabres were short handed. prolly didnt even watch the hit...
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
The Sens are quickly becoming my #2 team. Their ability to persevere with these ridiculous injuries is incredible.
- gilbert pierogi



you shut your mouth!!!
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
No, it would have to be Pommer +. Perry's production puts him more on the Vanek level (and that could start an argument in of itself, which I'm not particularly interested in).
- nfph


It's on!
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
It's on!
- Gunner Staal

Go for it, I'll be over here looking at the liquor cabinet.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
You are taking that one line, and ignoring everything else I said...

-perry wouldn't sign here
-I'm not giving up Pominville + for a rental

And besides all that,
Pominville for Perry straight up is a pretty fair deal
Who scored more points last year?
And Pominville has 3 more goals than Perry this year!

You are acting like Perry is some superstars way out of Pominville's league... But that's only true in name recognition,
Not ACTUAL production

AND Perry will cost significantly more than Pommer,
And with the cap going down, that is also a significant factor

- jdfitz77


that one line was pretty telling, and considering what you just wrote, i think my read of what you were implying was pretty accurate.

you're obviously entitled to your opinion. if you think that pommer is worth perry straight up, that's fine. i think the fact that pretty much NOBODY else agrees with you sort of gives a boost to my opinion though.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
that one line was pretty telling, and considering what you just wrote, i think my read of what you were implying was pretty accurate.

you're obviously entitled to your opinion. if you think that pommer is worth perry straight up, that's fine. i think the fact that pretty much NOBODY else agrees with you sort of gives a boost to my opinion though.

- sensarmy_11


i think you two should wrestle.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
what if we trade for him (pommer and a 1st or 2nd for Perry)

then sign him to 8 mil for 6 seasons.....

i dont think he'd say no to 8 mil?

- qcstudios


Why would he say yes right now though?
Why not wait till free agency hits and then he can have his choice of at least 5-6 teams that will offer the same deal?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Mar 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
what if we trade for him (pommer and a 1st or 2nd for Perry)

then sign him to 8 mil for 6 seasons.....

i dont think he'd say no to 8 mil?

- qcstudios

what if both buffalo and a real nhl team offered him 8 mil.. who do you think he would play for?
nazz4226
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
standard uneducated national commentary. dirty, malicious, kaletas a bum blahhhhhhhhh...

said at one point how kaleta should have just cleared the puck because the sabres were short handed. prolly didnt even watch the hit...

- battelmt

He had to some how fill up his crappy show with someyhing other then annoying sounds
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
Why would he say yes right now though?
Why not wait till free agency hits and then he can have his choice of at least 5-6 teams that will offer the same deal?

- jdfitz77


i see your point.

then yeah, i guess the only way i'd do it is if it was a guaranteed signing. losing pommer for basically nothing wouldnt help us at all
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
that one line was pretty telling, and considering what you just wrote, i think my read of what you were implying was pretty accurate.

you're obviously entitled to your opinion. if you think that pommer is worth perry straight up, that's fine. i think the fact that pretty much NOBODY else agrees with you sort of gives a boost to my opinion though.

- sensarmy_11

I really don't care about the pissing match - I've made bad proposals in the past god knows. I do think if the Ducks move Perry it's because they can't afford him. In that scenario, to me, Pomminville is a good piece to use as the center of the trade. He is productive, reliable, and plays all situations. He's not Perry, but he brings a number of the same attributes.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
i think you two should wrestle.
- battelmt



battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
He had to some how fill up his crappy show with someyhing other then annoying sounds
- nazz4226


he just said it again "why would kaleta just clear the puck- c'mon, your killing a penalty".

what a joke.

hes getting flooded with texts/emails/tweets from b-lo fans now...
Chipd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.20.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:02 PM ET
what if both buffalo and a real nhl team offered him 8 mil.. who do you think he would play for?
- SabresFaninIndiana

What "real" NHL team has 8 mil in cap space?

Isn't the cap going up only $1 mil next year?
mes418
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:02 PM ET
Get a room.
- LamontSanford



battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
What "real" NHL team has 8 mil in cap space?

Isn't the cap going up only $1 mil next year?

- Chipd


its going down by like 6mil i think...
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
I really don't care about the pissing match - I've made bad proposals in the past god knows. I do think if the Ducks move Perry it's because they can't afford him. In that scenario, to me, Pomminville is a good piece to use as the center of the trade. He is productive, reliable, and plays all situations. He's not Perry, but he brings a number of the same attributes.
- nfph


i agree, stupid pissing match. i will however make ONE LAST POINT (promise, it's my last one). IF the ducks move perry, it likely signals the start of atleast a partial rebuild, or re-tool if that's a better word. i don't think they're gonna want a 32 year old, who's best days are probably behind him (not saying he isn't good, just that it's likely his best days are in the past). more likely they'll want young RFA's or picks. if you can't afford a 27 year old perry at 7 mil, pretty sure you're not gonna want a 32 year old pommer for only 1.7 mil less.
nazz4226
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
he just said it again "why would kaleta just clear the puck- c'mon, your killing a penalty".

what a joke.

hes getting flooded with texts/emails/tweets from b-lo fans now...

- battelmt


I wish I wasn't in class right now so I can listen to his wisdom of hockey
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
that one line was pretty telling, and considering what you just wrote, i think my read of what you were implying was pretty accurate.

you're obviously entitled to your opinion. if you think that pommer is worth perry straight up, that's fine. i think the fact that pretty much NOBODY else agrees with you sort of gives a boost to my opinion though.

- sensarmy_11


Lots of ppl are nickelback fans...
Doesn't mean they're any good

And u and I never had this "discussion/argument" you're talking about...
U just ripped on my post quite ridiculously after I was gone...

So if u want to actually go at it, then counter the points I made showing there isn't that much difference between the two players...

-Pominville out scored Perry last year
-Pominville has 3 more goals this year
-Perry plays with better line mates

And also counter the point that Pominville will cost roughly 2mil less on his next deal than Perry will,
Which with the cap going down is a very big deal

With all that in mind, how exactly is Perry sooooooo much better?
gilbert pierogi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo-ish, NY
Joined: 12.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
you shut your mouth!!!
- battelmt

Oh come on!! Until this little point streak of our beloved Sabres, the Sens were my new #1, but the Sabres Bandwagon stopped to pick me up again
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