25 -30 g 50- 60pts he is just that type of player you take in battle with you
I was shocked he did not get the C this year
- gerbe75pts

Idk about njds cap issues but can they resign him or do u think they will?

Yeah all the time? Like When
- hubie

Off the top of my head...
JVR, schenn, j.staal, sutter, Whitney, Simmonds... And it goes back...
Even Phaneuf, Bouwmeester, Penner, Kunitz, Coburn...
Going way back to trades like Luongo (twice), chara, Briere... and there's been many many more

Yep ... he has to start sucking ,lol
- gerbe75pts

Perv

4 day old son just woke up from his nap..

As always.. Appreciate the convos but my little guy needs attention..

Be back tonight here and there...

Peters is 0-1 in the nhl with a 8.26 gaa... Hat game was against buffalo...
Lets go boys

If we can't get a Perry or Getzlaf I would look at the next tier Raymond, Stalberg, Yip, Chipchura, maybe Wolski. The thing is we can't overpay for a second tier guy like we did with Leino.
- adambuffalo

That is a very uninspiring list of players as next tier UFA's. Yuck.

He can have ville leino's money when we buyout the bum
- gerbe75pts

Cant wait to have that 4 m, regehrs 4m, leos 3m, pardys 2m to play with

I like armia a ton and i think he is very good too.. I just worry about how skinny he is and taking the body a ton. Armia is what 20? And playing with the pros in Finland?

I cant wait for him to get here...
- JVince11

He's over 200lbs
I don't think size will be the adjustment so much as the speed of the NHL...
We are seeing that with Grigorenko now IMO
Given the chance though,
Both will be able to show their talent and help produce here...
They'll just take some time to be consistent scorers IMO

Idk about njds cap issues but can they resign him or do u think they will?
- JVince11

Yea they should have the money .. have to hope he says peace ,lol

Perv
- jochfr

Friendly wager?
- hubie

U think he scores 30 next year?
I'd say more like 15, maybe 20...
Even though he has the talent & size, the NHL is still an adjustment for any young player

Off the top of my head...
JVR, schenn, j.staal, sutter, Whitney, Simmonds... And it goes back...
Even Phaneuf, Bouwmeester, Penner, Kunitz, Coburn...
Going way back to trades like Luongo (twice), chara, Briere... and there's been many many more
- jdfitz77

ok
jvr was for schenn take that out
j stall for sutter scr that one too
B Schenn and Simmons you have me there

but historically older players i.e. the ones we are trading get you picks not prospects that often.

Plus there is no way in Hedes Darcy is trading any of our youth

U think he scores 30 next year?
I'd say more like 15, maybe 20...
Even though he has the talent & size, the NHL is still an adjustment for any young player
- jdfitz77

im reading it as you think hes scoring 30

I see 15-20 is do able

Edit: sorry I read that completely wrong my bad ill take that one

Cant wait to have that 4 m, regehrs 4m, leos 3m, pardys 2m to play with
- JVince11

nto when its going to vanek pommer and miller

4 day old son just woke up from his nap..

As always.. Appreciate the convos but my little guy needs attention..

Be back tonight here and there...

Peters is 0-1 in the nhl with a 8.26 gaa... Hat game was against buffalo...
Lets go boys
- JVince11

Congrats man

He's over 200lbs
I don't think size will be the adjustment so much as the speed of the NHL...
We are seeing that with Grigorenko now IMO
Given the chance though,
Both will be able to show their talent and help produce here...
They'll just take some time to be consistent scorers IMO
- jdfitz77

He is listed at 187 and 6.3....That is skinny. Were do you see him listed over 200. I am sure he will put on some weight, but I am not sure he is that big right now. And his biggest issue in the Pros has been his skating.

He is listed at 187 and 6.3....That is skinny. Were do you see him listed over 200. I am sure he will put on some weight, but I am not sure he is that big right now. And his biggest issue in the Pros has been his skating.
- Pillar

so your saying resign hecth so we can healthy scr armia to work with teh skating coach?

He can have ville leino's money when we buyout the bum
- gerbe75pts

Everyone is calling for a Leino buyout. If we bought him out this would be his Cap hit for the next 8 years.
$1,750,000
$1,750,000
$2,250,000
$2,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000

His actual cap hit is $4.5 million each of those years. So could we get someone for $2.25m- $3.25m that will be better?

Look at his numbers, he has not improved like you would like to see. He had a nice stretch of 10 games this year. Outside of that he has been average at best. He has a nice shot. He is a big body. He is not a strong skater. Guys like that tend to be better suited for the AHL.
- Pillar

Missed 10games with injury...
Was dominant in the World JRs this season-
That tourney was littered with guys now in the NHL and out scored ALL of them except Nugent-Hopkins (who had only 3 more points in 1 extra game with way more talent on his roster)
And currently,
Armia has put his team in Finland on his back and carried them from 12th place to 3rd with a 10game winning streak

The AHL might do him good for a year,
But I think he can be productive right away also

Everyone is calling for a Leino buyout. If we bought him out this would be his Cap hit for the next 8 years.
$1,750,000
$1,750,000
$2,250,000
$2,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000

His actual cap hit is $4.5 million each of those years. So could we get someone for $2.25m- $3.25m that will be better?
- adambuffalo

No it wouldn't...
With the amnesty clause in the new CBA you can buy out up to 2 players with no future cap ramifications

U think he scores 30 next year?
I'd say more like 15, maybe 20...
Even though he has the talent & size, the NHL is still an adjustment for any young player
- jdfitz77

same type of numbers vanek had his rookie year .

so your saying resign hecth so we can healthy scr armia to work with teh skating coach?
- hubie

NO!!!!!!

I just don't think we are gonna see Armia in Buffalo next year. He will probably need some time in the AHL.

Everyone is calling for a Leino buyout. If we bought him out this would be his Cap hit for the next 8 years.
$1,750,000
$1,750,000
$2,250,000
$2,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000
$1,250,000

His actual cap hit is $4.5 million each of those years. So could we get someone for $2.25m- $3.25m that will be better?
- adambuffalo

amnesty clause in the new cba

Ott doesnt really play center though.
- Homer

That's why I'd really like to see us bring in someone like Helm or Abdelkader from Detroit

Look at his numbers, he has not improved like you would like to see. He had a nice stretch of 10 games this year. Outside of that he has been average at best. He has a nice shot. He is a big body. He is not a strong skater. Guys like that tend to be better suited for the AHL.
- Pillar

He had a concussion in the year and was not right . let me find the hit for you

He had a concussion in the year and was not right . let me find the hit for you
- gerbe75pts

I did not know that. I see he scored the smae number of goals, but his assists were down. His total production is down. He also did not impress at the world juniors. His best games were after his team was all but eliminated from medal contention.