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smock
Joined: 06.05.2009

Mar 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
Fixed
- sbroads24

If the roles were reversed and Richards had hit Kaleta, there would not have been a penalty called unless it was for delay of game on Kaleta. All the big apple bloggers would be saying, he just gave him a little shove.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
Sounds like someone got lucky
- sbroads24

70 plus outside and plenty of sick time on the books

yeah I faked it

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
i would think Cbus, edm, calgary and the isles would be on that list and possibly the panthers.. how many teams does he get to list?

The lighting would be interesting but they would have to move or buy out vinny and they just went and got lindback. would they do lindbach and a 1st?

Devils could work.. wedgewood, urbom and a pick..

- SabresFaninIndiana

he gets to pick 8, as does pommer
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
If the roles were reversed and Richards had hit Kaleta, there would not have been a penalty called unless it was for delay of game on Kaleta. All the big apple bloggers would be saying, he just gave him a little shove.
- smock

agreed
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
Salary cap is 72M tbis season and goes down to 64M next season.

Buffalo is 5M under right now and next year will be like 14M before resigning any rfas or ufas. We have 18 skaters under contract right now for nxt year


RFAs: enroth, hodgson, brennan, weber
UFAs: hecht, scott, leopold, regehr

- JVince11


I really hope we don't bring back ANY of those UFAs...
No freaking thank you
Not that anyone would trade for Scott, but hopefully we can move the other 3 at the deadline... Hecht prob just gets a low pick, but defensemen have been getting a prospect + a 2nd recently, that would be great for two guys I don't wanna re-sign anyways

Of the RFAs, only Hodgson will get a significant raise, and only around 1.5-2mil more most likely
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
pretty sure the norris trophy does though.

and PLEASE...name 10 dmen that you would take over karlsson. hell, name 5

the ONLY guys who should be mentioned in the same breath, IMO, are weber, pietrangelo, chara, and letang.....maybe keith. but i still think karlsson is better than all of them.

- sensarmy_11



Norris was awarded to the wrong person. It was awarded to the highest scoring defenseman, not the best defenseman.


Doughty, Chara, Weber, Letang, Pietrangelo, Keith, Staal, Bogosian are a few I would consider on my team before Karlsson. Unless I'm drafting for my fantasy hockey team. Then I would take Karlsson.
Pillar
Location: Amos, QC
Joined: 07.06.2012

Mar 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
there is no way KArlson is a top 7 d-men, in my opinion. Sorry no KArlson, his game is too one dimensional. I would put him right around 10. He might be the best offensive D-man. Kinda like Phil Housley. Karlson is a career -13 player. I could never put a career - player in the top 10 in Defense. I know it's not the end all be all, and Karlson may be the best point man on the PP in the NHL, but he is not a top 5 defender.

7.) Kris Letang (+31)

6) Ryan Suter (+38)

5.) Duncan Keith (+90)

4.) Alex Pieterangelo (+20)

3.) Drew Doughty (+8)

2.) Shea Weber (+47)

1.) Chara (+157)
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
he gets to pick 8, as does pommer
- homiedclown

8 to go to or 8 he will not go to?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
If the roles were reversed and Richards had hit Kaleta, there would not have been a penalty called unless it was for delay of game on Kaleta. All the big apple bloggers would be saying, he just gave him a little shove.
- smock

are we going to start this again?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
If the roles were reversed and Richards had hit Kaleta, there would not have been a penalty called unless it was for delay of game on Kaleta. All the big apple bloggers would be saying, he just gave him a little shove.
- smock

Yea, that pretty much has already happened numerous times.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
are we going to start this again?
- SabresFaninIndiana


who brought the horse to beat?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:03 PM ET
8 to go to or 8 he will not go to?
- SabresFaninIndiana

up to 8 teams they will not accept a trade to
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
Can someone explain to me why this isn't considered a "bang bang" play and not worthy of a suspension? Looks a little like the Ennis/Girardi play. Ross turns and put himself in this position. So why is this a suspension and Girardi's is not?

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:06 PM ET
Norris was awarded to the wrong person. It was awarded to the highest scoring defenseman, not the best defenseman.


Doughty, Chara, Weber, Letang, Pietrangelo, Keith, Staal, Bogosian are a few I would consider on my team before Karlsson. Unless I'm drafting for my fantasy hockey team. Then I would take Karlsson.

- adambuffalo

how many sen games do you watch?

how many of their playoff games did you watch last season?

he is as good in his own end as any of those d men not named chara or weber IMO

Pietrangelo is about on par with him and a great comparison of the two
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 3:06 PM ET
Can someone explain to me why this isn't considered a "bang bang" play and not worthy of a suspension? Looks a little like the Ennis/Girardi play. Ross turns and put himself in this position. So why is this a suspension and Girardi's is not?


- sbroads24

Because the league enforces things inconsistently. I'd really, really love to move on from this.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:07 PM ET
pretty sure the norris trophy does though.

and PLEASE...name 10 dmen that you would take over karlsson. hell, name 5

the ONLY guys who should be mentioned in the same breath, IMO, are weber, pietrangelo, chara, and letang.....maybe keith. but i still think karlsson is better than all of them.

- sensarmy_11


There's a Seabrook argument to be made also,
But in general I like tough "defensive" defensemen more that the more "offensively" oriented guys...
No doubting how good Karlsson is though... It's been a while since a defenseman was able to produce offensive #s like him...
What happened to mike green btw?
He was awesome, for like a second or two...
I know he's had injuries, but he's gone from 30goal scorer to suck pretty quick!
Kind of reminds me of how Cheechoo took the league by storm and then totally disappeared almost as quickly as he became a stud
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:07 PM ET
there is no way KArlson is a top 7 d-men, in my opinion. Sorry no KArlson, his game is too one dimensional. I would put him right around 10. He might be the best offensive D-man. Kinda like Phil Housley. Karlson is a career -13 player. I could never put a career - player in the top 10 in Defense. I know it's not the end all be all, and Karlson may be the best point man on the PP in the NHL, but he is not a top 5 defender.

7.) Kris Letang (+31)

6) Ryan Suter (+38)

5.) Duncan Keith (+90)

4.) Alex Pieterangelo (+20)

3.) Drew Doughty (+8)

2.) Shea Weber (+47)

1.) Chara (+157)

- Pillar


You cant go by plus minus stats though. That is more of a line stat. Look at how bad Ottawa was 2 years ago. Before Anderson. If you were to pick a D based on his shut down ability he wouldnt be mentioned but if you look at everything he brings he is top 3 with Chara and Shea Weber.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:07 PM ET
I really hope we don't bring back ANY of those UFAs...
No freaking thank you
Not that anyone would trade for Scott, but hopefully we can move the other 3 at the deadline... Hecht prob just gets a low pick, but defensemen have been getting a prospect + a 2nd recently, that would be great for two guys I don't wanna re-sign anyways

Of the RFAs, only Hodgson will get a significant raise, and only around 1.5-2mil more most likely

- jdfitz77

Oilers gave up a 4th, could be a third for brown

I could see scott being moved at the deadline if the sabres go backwards

I also think this is the time to be buyers if they want to salvage the season
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:08 PM ET
The time is now to trade Pommer. He is worth much more to this team as a bargaining chip to get some high end prospect then he is as a Captain and producer. He is 30 now and his production has peaked. He has captained a losing team. Bottome line is this team needs new leadership. The core of players that has been around has not produced in the playoffs. We need to rebuild. I'd keep vanek around, but get rip of pomminville. His abilities are fine, but he has failed miserably as a leader.
- Pillar


What kind of return would you be looking for?
I think we could get a pretty good return too
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:09 PM ET
You cant go by plus minus stats though. That is more of a line stat. Look at how bad Ottawa was 2 years ago. Before Anderson. If you were to pick a D based on his shut down ability he wouldnt be mentioned but if you look at everything he brings he is top 3 with Chara and Shea Weber.
- Stripes77

agreed, such an over rated stat

if your team sucks, your plus minus is going to suck

if your a great player on the team that sucks, your plus minus will go down 10 spots just because of the empty net goals your team will allow
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:09 PM ET
Norris was awarded to the wrong person. It was awarded to the highest scoring defenseman, not the best defenseman.


Doughty, Chara, Weber, Letang, Pietrangelo, Keith, Staal, Bogosian are a few I would consider on my team before Karlsson. Unless I'm drafting for my fantasy hockey team. Then I would take Karlsson.

- adambuffalo


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:09 PM ET
Because the league enforces things inconsistently. I'd really, really love to move on from this.
- nfph

Sorry, but it's ridiculous. At least it's hockey related
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:10 PM ET
What kind of return would you be looking for?
I think we could get a pretty good return too

- jdfitz77

a first and a mcnabb like prospect
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:10 PM ET
What kind of return would you be looking for?
I think we could get a pretty good return too

- jdfitz77


At the very least 1st and prospect
Pillar
Location: Amos, QC
Joined: 07.06.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:11 PM ET
If the roles were reversed and Richards had hit Kaleta, there would not have been a penalty called unless it was for delay of game on Kaleta. All the big apple bloggers would be saying, he just gave him a little shove.
- smock


I do like Kaleta. I like the way he plays most of the time. That being said, I don't think Richards would make such a bone head play and cost his team the game, not to mention almost kill someone. I also think it makes Sabres fans look bad when they say things like this. That hit was stupid and dangerous. As a former hockey player I can tall you it is the most dangerous hit that will occur on the ice. He was in a defenseless position, his back was to Kaleta (he didn't turn away like you see alot of the time). I think Kaleta should have been suspended longer. This is not the first time he has put another player at serious risk to injury on an illegal hit. I don't care if Richards played the next shift or not, Kaleta could have ended his career with that nonsense. Bottom line, he crossed checked Richards in the back about 4 feet from the boards. That is scary, and for Kaleta not to own up to it is ridiculous. It shows he thinks he did nothing wrong. I hope he learns from it. The next time it happens, it could lead to a very serious injutry, which could mark the end of Pat Kaleta's career too.
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