The big fish will always get their money, which is why I thought throughout the lockout that Donald Fehr was only working for the top 15-20% of the union. He was holding up the whole process for rights of a group of players that will always get theirs.
- Gunner Staal

Perry. Will get max length at probably 7.5 to 8 per. Where your going to see a difference is in the 2nd teir free agents.

Scoring does not make you the best d-man in the league. There's probably 5-10 guys I would take over him.
- adambuffalo

Maybe 2 or 3 def not 5-10

Salary cap is 72M tbis season and goes down to 64M next season.

Buffalo is 5M under right now and next year will be like 14M before resigning any rfas or ufas. We have 18 skaters under contract right now for nxt year


RFAs: enroth, hodgson, brennan, weber
UFAs: hecht, scott, leopold, regehr

Scoring does not make you the best d-man in the league. There's probably 5-10 guys I would take over him.
- adambuffalo

pretty sure the norris trophy does though.

and PLEASE...name 10 dmen that you would take over karlsson. hell, name 5

the ONLY guys who should be mentioned in the same breath, IMO, are weber, pietrangelo, chara, and letang.....maybe keith. but i still think karlsson is better than all of them.

The time is now to trade Pommer. He is worth much more to this team as a bargaining chip to get some high end prospect then he is as a Captain and producer. He is 30 now and his production has peaked. He has captained a losing team. Bottome line is this team needs new leadership. The core of players that has been around has not produced in the playoffs. We need to rebuild. I'd keep vanek around, but get rip of pomminville. His abilities are fine, but he has failed miserably as a leader.

If Miller was a free agent this summer, what 8 teams would make a serious offer to him?

Edmonton
Calgary
C Bus
Islanders
Bolts
Panthers
Devils
Caps

that was the 8 that came to mind assuming the red wings resign Howard

how many of those teams would be on his no trade list of 8?


Just a thought I had while driving to the fishing hole earlier

wont get even for even but the 3 of them for say a bunch of picks and one top notch prospect would be nice.
- hubie

I do not want picks and prospects for guys that I consider "stars"
Homer said last year LA wanted Pominville for Brown...
Dont know if that deal would still be available, but that's the type deal I'd look to do
Get younger guys we know are good, but not so young that they're still question marks

so many things that just get beat to hell, this place can be so frustrating.

Love the new thing of people saying they want Kaleta off the team then say we arent tough enough and have no heart.
- hubie

I love kaleta...

We also complain about wanting a rich pipeline but when we do have young players we don't have the patience to let them mature and grow...

Perry doesn't play with Getz and Ryan. He plays with Etem and Getz. Ryan plays center now
- sbroads24

Who are his linemates? I thought Koivu was 2nd line center? Plus there are 4 guys that have taken more FOs than Ryan. I know FOs aren't really a measuring tool since Ott is 3rd on our team, but Ryan only has taken 62 draws.

pretty sure the norris trophy does though.

and PLEASE...name 10 dmen that you would take over karlsson. hell, name 5
- sensarmy_11

I would take. She Weber, Chara if he was 30, Duncan Keith maybe, Maybe Peitrangelo... and that's probably it

I would take. She Weber, Chara if he was 30, Duncan Keith maybe, Maybe Peitrangelo... and that's probably it
- sbroads24

it's a short list

Who are his linemates? I thought Koivu was 2nd line center? Plus there are 4 guys that have taken more FOs than Ryan. I know FOs aren't really a measuring tool since Ott is 3rd on our team, but Ryan only has taken 62 draws.
- adambuffalo

perry, getz, palmieri

Who are his linemates? I thought Koivu was 2nd line center? Plus there are 4 guys that have taken more FOs than Ryan. I know FOs aren't really a measuring tool since Ott is 3rd on our team, but Ryan only has taken 62 draws.
- adambuffalo

I think and don't quote me. He plays with Bonino and Selanne or Winnik. Koivu is on the 3rd I believe.

I always thought so too. I guess Ryan was moved around to play on line 1 or 2 last year, this year He has been a center and playing quite well.
- sbroads24

So is Koivu their 3rd line center then?
I thought that he & Selanne played on the 2nd line together?
In all honesty, I haven't watched one Anaheim game this year, so I really have no clue... I'm basing all this on what I've seen previous seasons

perry, getz, palmieri
- homiedclown

Is Bonino playing center or wing for them?

Who are his linemates? I thought Koivu was 2nd line center? Plus there are 4 guys that have taken more FOs than Ryan. I know FOs aren't really a measuring tool since Ott is 3rd on our team, but Ryan only has taken 62 draws.
- adambuffalo

Ryan was recently moved to center (then to wing, then to center etc...) this month. Koivu has predominately played in a 3rd line role this year. Getzlaf and Perry have had a rotation of Bonino, Beleskey, Etem, and perhaps Palmieri at times.

Boudreau has shuffled things up quite frequently this year.

If Miller was a free agent this summer, what 8 teams would make a serious offer to him?

Edmonton
Calgary
C Bus
Islanders
Bolts
Panthers
Devils
Caps

that was the 8 that came to mind assuming the red wings resign Howard

how many of those teams would be on his no trade list of 8?


Just a thought I had while driving to the fishing hole earlier
- homiedclown

Sounds like someone got lucky

I love kaleta...

We also complain about wanting a rich pipeline but when we do have young players we don't have the patience to let them mature and grow...
- JVince11

U mean like above:

we dont want prospects we dont know are good or dont want picks. Its like what If I told you (not Vince were on the same page) I trade Pommy got a pick and a player and that pick became a younger faster better pommer? Oh we wouldnt want to wait and see.

We got a pretty good player in the Gratton trade.

so many things that just get beat to hell, this place can be so frustrating.

Love the new thing of people saying they want Kaleta off the team then say we arent tough enough and have no heart.
- hubie

If anything,
We need MORE guys like Kaleta on this team...
Guys like Helm or Abdelkader from Detroit would be fantastic additions IMO

I think and don't quote me. He plays with Bonino and Selanne or Winnik. Koivu is on the 3rd I believe.
- sbroads24

the other night ryan was with bonino and selanne
koivu was with cogliano and winnik

they roll 3 lines though

I do not want picks and prospects for guys that I consider "stars"
Homer said last year LA wanted Pominville for Brown...
Dont know if that deal would still be available, but that's the type deal I'd look to do
Get younger guys we know are good, but not so young that they're still question marks
- jdfitz77

The only Stars who have won here are

If anything,
We need MORE guys like Kaleta on this team...
Guys like Helm or Abdelkader from Detroit would be fantastic additions IMO
- jdfitz77

trade for Matt Cooke

If anything,
We need MORE guys like Kaleta on this team...
Guys like Helm or Abdelkader from Detroit would be fantastic additions IMO
- jdfitz77

+1
ID take Kassian back for a say 5th

Is Bonino playing center or wing for them?
- sbroads24

bonino was on the dot that night

If Miller was a free agent this summer, what 8 teams would make a serious offer to him?

Edmonton
Calgary
C Bus
Islanders
Bolts
Panthers
Devils
Caps

that was the 8 that came to mind assuming the red wings resign Howard

how many of those teams would be on his no trade list of 8?


Just a thought I had while driving to the fishing hole earlier
- homiedclown

i would think Cbus, edm, calgary and the isles would be on that list and possibly the panthers.. how many teams does he get to list?

The lighting would be interesting but they would have to move or buy out vinny and they just went and got lindback. would they do lindbach and a 1st?

Devils could work.. wedgewood, urbom and a pick..