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keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
he gave the team ample time to get him signed. They dropped the ball on 2 fronts.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


They dropped the ball for asking for a 1st rounder. He should have been gone for a 2nd rounder. He is the one who said publically that he was breaking off negotiations and then turned down a deal comparable to a teamate who was a 30 goal scorer. Snow obviously thought they'd still get a deal done. It wasn't until Colorado gave Jones a 4 year $16 million contract that PA became too expensive.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
So hard we paid a guy $1 million dollars and he's almost on pace for the same.
- keaner17

Whatever man, think what you want. Brad Boyes (frank)ing blows. He could score a hundred goals it would'nt make up for the 200 going the other way. The PA debate is beyond ridiculous, comparing him to Vis or otherwise. For a team as shatty as this I say sign him and pay Boyes a million and have both of them and don't pay this waiver wire junk and otherwise. You and your buddy Snow think otherwise. I'm actually done discussing this with you because just like your PA jokes it's draining. Move on.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
You guys have a way of exagarrating everything. Nobody "romanticized" PA's stay with us, get a grip. Most people myself included said it'd be hard to replace his 67 poionts. That's it. Nothing romantic about that.
- Cptmjl


Well you cant really get a good read on guys this year if they could make up for th 67 points. Wait till next year I am sure someone will take his spot. PA is good but he is not one of the tops in teh game
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
They dropped the ball for asking for a 1st rounder. He should have been gone for a 2nd rounder. He is the one who said publically that he was breaking off negotiations and then turned down a deal comparable to a teamate who was a 30 goal scorer. Snow obviously thought they'd still get a deal done. It wasn't until Colorado gave Jones a 4 year $16 million contract that PA became too expensive.
- keaner17

Dude, half your posts are pure speculation and you sell at as the truth. Say "you think" before half this shat and it'd be legitimate.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
So hard we paid a guy $1 million dollars and he's almost on pace for the same.
- keaner17



You would rather have Boyes over PAP, fine... I wouldn't


XxNYIxX
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
and he got offered a million more and two more years? What would you do?
- Cptmjl

1 year, 1 million. PA was offered 3 for $9. Moulson got 3 for $9.4
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
You would rather have Boyes over PAP, fine... I wouldn't


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- XxNYIxX


didn't say that...but his stats don't appear all that replaceable when a stiff like Boyes can equal them.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
Whatever man, think what you want. Brad Boyes (frank)ing blows. He could score a hundred goals it would'nt make up for the 200 going the other way. The PA debate is beyond ridiculous, comparing him to Vis or otherwise. For a team as shatty as this I say sign him and pay Boyes a million and have both of them and don't pay this waiver wire junk and otherwise. You and your buddy Snow think otherwise. I'm actually done discussing this with you because just like your PA jokes it's draining. Move on.
- Cptmjl


Yep he does...yet he's putting up PA-like stats...AMAZING!
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
They dropped the ball for asking for a 1st rounder. He should have been gone for a 2nd rounder. He is the one who said publically that he was breaking off negotiations and then turned down a deal comparable to a teamate who was a 30 goal scorer. Snow obviously thought they'd still get a deal done. It wasn't until Colorado gave Jones a 4 year $16 million contract that PA became too expensive.
- keaner17



And that is where Snow fails, as a GM he has to turn his assets into more assets, he did not. He was a fool not signing PAP, he was a fool for not trading Nabby & he is a bigger fool for not trading PAP.


XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
1 year, 1 million. PA was offered 3 for $9. Moulson got 3 for $9.4
- keaner17

Speculation. Besides you still have'nt answered the question yet?
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
You guys have a way of exagarrating everything. Nobody "romanticized" PA's stay with us, get a grip. Most people myself included said it'd be hard to replace his 67 poionts. That's it. Nothing romantic about that.
- Cptmjl


Well...people still are longing for him here like he would be The Solution. Let's face it...PA wasn't the big gritty winger we need, nor was he the pure sniper we could use. I get that he puts up points, and would have been useful for this season to a degree (edit -- and, like many players that leave, may not have been adequately replaced). But really, he's such a difference maker in Colorado that they...have the same amount of points as the Isles and are sitting in 13th place...

Snow could have paid up and kept PA. Snow should have traded him if he wasn't going to pay up. On that, I think every Isles fan agrees. But the PA/Chuck Norris thing didn't take off here because people weren't making a bit too big of a deal about what his contributions were/could have been...
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
Whatever man, think what you want. Brad Boyes (frank)ing blows. He could score a hundred goals it would'nt make up for the 200 going the other way. The PA debate is beyond ridiculous, comparing him to Vis or otherwise. For a team as shatty as this I say sign him and pay Boyes a million and have both of them and don't pay this waiver wire junk and otherwise. You and your buddy Snow think otherwise. I'm actually done discussing this with you because just like your PA jokes it's draining. Move on.
- Cptmjl



if only!!!!

$50 says he ISNT done discussing this...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
Yep he does...yet he's putting up PA-like stats...AMAZING!
- keaner17

Dude, you're crazy. I'm not some huge PA fan. You guys go on these tangents about the guy. I thought he should've been signed, you did'nt. Get a grip, move on.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
didn't say that...but his stats don't appear all that replaceable when a stiff like Boyes can equal them.
- keaner17



I think I could get 50 or 60 points playing with JT. Yes, he is that good. Go to the frankin net, like MM... keep your stick on the ice, and wait for JT to do his magic.. He is that good. He makes players around him better, because he draws the others to him. Like most great playes do.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
Dude, half your posts are pure speculation and you sell at as the truth. Say "you think" before half this shat and it'd be legitimate.
- Cptmjl



You of all people? Really? REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLY? Wasn't it just you who was just SPECULATING that Vis is probably lying about this 'tragedy'?

It's a friggin' internet messageboard...75% of what everyone writes here is speculation.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
You would rather have Boyes over PAP, fine... I wouldn't


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



eould u rather have boyes for 1 year or pap for 4 years?
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
Dude, you're crazy. I'm not some huge PA fan. You guys go on these tangents about the guy. I thought he should've been signed, you did'nt. Get a grip, move on.
- Cptmjl


I am kind of happy they didnt sign him. It is obvious that he got a big head thinking he was great and did not resign here. He did not want to play here why would you want him??
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET

You of all people? Really? REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLY? Wasn't it just you who was just SPECULATING that Vis is probably lying about this 'tragedy'?

It's a friggin' internet messageboard...75% of what everyone writes here is speculation.

- keaner17


Source?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
Well...people still are longing for him here like he would be The Solution. Let's face it...PA wasn't the big gritty winger we need, nor was he the pure sniper we coud use. I get that he puts up points, and would have been useful for this season to a degree. But really, he's such a difference maker in Colorado that they...have the same amount of points as the Isles are are sitting in 13th place...

Snow could have paid up and kept PA. Snow should have traded him if he wasn't going to pay up. On that, I think every Isles fan agrees. But the PA/Chuck Norris thing didn't take off here because people weren't making a bit too big of a deal about what his contributions were/could have been...

- UIF

Who is doing that? Certainly not me. Jesus (frank)ing Christ the conversation was bout comparing Visnovsky's unprofessionalism to PA's for not resiging not PA or how great he was.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
didn't say that...but his stats don't appear all that replaceable when a stiff like Boyes can equal them.
- keaner17



No one said he wasnt replaceable, EVERYONE is, even JT

But you already had the guy, already had a really good line that gelled, there was so much give & go, so much flow out of those 3 last year it was silly, i see NONE of that this year with this three.

There was a guy who was getting it done & the three of them would have gotten better together, but nope.. let that asset walk.

XxNYIxX
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
Dude, you're crazy. I'm not some huge PA fan. You guys go on these tangents about the guy. I thought he should've been signed, you did'nt. Get a grip, move on.
- Cptmjl


I didn't think he should be signed. I challenge you now to find anywhere I ever wrote that. Or are you SPECULATING? I think he should have been signed, on a deal similar to Grabs or Moulson. He got offered more and took off. End of story. I don't think a hometown discount was too much to ask considering he'd still be in the A if it wasn't for this team.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
And that is where Snow fails, as a GM he has to turn his assets into more assets, he did not. He was a fool not signing PAP, he was a fool for not trading Nabby & he is a bigger fool for not trading PAP.


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- XxNYIxX



He didn't trade PAP because he thought he was going to resign.

keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
Source?
- UIF




the last 500 pages of this blog!
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:02 PM ET

You of all people? Really? REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLY? Wasn't it just you who was just SPECULATING that Vis is probably lying about this 'tragedy'?

It's a friggin' internet messageboard...75% of what everyone writes here is speculation.

- keaner17



That right there is speculation!

XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:02 PM ET

You of all people? Really? REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLY? Wasn't it just you who was just SPECULATING that Vis is probably lying about this 'tragedy'?

It's a friggin' internet messageboard...75% of what everyone writes here is speculation.

- keaner17

Actually, I said I could give a shat. You're saying he turnes down a dollar amount from Snow, you know with numbers in it and numbers of years. Giving a specific amount. I'm saying a guy that did'nt report and keeps having "tragedys", who cares. Say what you will. Tell a stupid PA joke, put up a stupid picture and call it a day.
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