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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:08 AM ET
I figured the first domino was about to fall.


- tangent_man


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:08 AM ET
How about Couts and a 1st for Oliver Ekman-Larsson?
- NickTheKid87


no.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Mar 5 @ 11:09 AM ET
This was the Pronger deal: Traded to Philadelphia by Anaheim with Ryan Dingle for Joffrey Lupul, Luca Sbisa, Philadelphia's 1st round choices in 2009 (later traded to Columbus - Columbus selected John Moore) and 2010 (Emerson Etem) Entry Drafts and future considerations, June 26, 2009.

That's less than B. Schenn + Couturier from a personnel standpoint.

As for Rundblad and Gormley, I'm not saying trade Couturier for one of them because I wouldn't. I would only trade him to PHX in a deal for OEL. I brought up Rundblad, Gormley and Yandle to show that they are in need of a high potential forward and not a talented young defenseman.

- NickTheKid87

Pronger was 34 years old, going to be 35 years old at the time. That is past his prime and the cost was still 2 1sts and 2 1st round players.

I know I am in the minority, but I don't see the Flyers as a great defensemen away from the cup. Even if they were, moving Couturier plus takes them a step back. I think the best course of action is to invest in the draft and undrafted free agents. Until those players are ready, band aid in free agency. Timonen, Coburn, Grossman, Schenn, and Mezzaros is not a bad top 5 to live with this year and next.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:10 AM ET


Nothing to see here, move along

- Jsaquella


NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:10 AM ET
no.
- hammarby31


A 1 for 1 swap?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:10 AM ET

- Jsaquella


It was a matter of time before his knees buckled.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:10 AM ET
A 1 for 1 swap?
- NickTheKid87


no. the more i think about it, the more i just want to keep him.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:11 AM ET
You leave Uncle Daddy out of this!
- jmatchett



jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:11 AM ET
The Flyers can send half of the salary of the players they trade for Weber, they can't cut Nashville a check for half of that $13mm

So say the Flyers traded Couturier, Coburn and 2 1st rounder for Weber. They can can assume around $3mm, because those are the contracts they traded away.

- Jsaquella


This. Nashville has now cut down the amount they paid for 1 season from $26M to $22M-$23M.

Also, I was at the Nashville-Dallas game and spoke to Paul McCann. He said management is furious with the Flyers for the offer sheet, so I doubt they'd be happy to trade him to the Flyers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:11 AM ET

- hammarby31


That is worse than Pitbull
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
Pronger was 34 years old, going to be 35 years old at the time. That is past his prime and the cost was still 2 1sts and 2 1st round players.

I know I am in the minority, but I don't see the Flyers as a great defensemen away from the cup. Even if they were, moving Couturier plus takes them a step back. I think the best course of action is to invest in the draft and undrafted free agents. Until those players are ready, band aid in free agency. Timonen, Coburn, Grossman, Schenn, and Mezzaros is not a bad top 5 to live with this year and next.

- psuhockey


I like the d corps they have as well but when you have a surplus at one spot, it's never a bad idea to at least consider trading for a young, talented defenseman, of which they lack. Timonen might be done after next year and they will NEED to replace him one way or another. Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn or Meszaros can't do what he does.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
This was the Pronger deal: Traded to Philadelphia by Anaheim with Ryan Dingle for Joffrey Lupul, Luca Sbisa, Philadelphia's 1st round choices in 2009 (later traded to Columbus - Columbus selected John Moore) and 2010 (Emerson Etem) Entry Drafts and future considerations, June 26, 2009.

That's less than B. Schenn + Couturier from a personnel standpoint.

As for Rundblad and Gormley, I'm not saying trade Couturier for one of them because I wouldn't. I would only trade him to PHX in a deal for OEL. I brought up Rundblad, Gormley and Yandle to show that they are in need of a high potential forward and not a talented young defenseman.

- NickTheKid87

PHO & WPG need a center
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
no. the more i think about it, the more i just want to keep him.
- hammarby31


A-freakin'-men.

The Flyers can't draft a talented kid without the fan base looking to deal him within 2 years.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
This. Nashville has now cut down the amount they paid for 1 season from $26M to $22M-$23M.

Also, I was at the Nashville-Dallas game and spoke to Paul McCann. He said management is furious with the Flyers for the offer sheet, so I doubt they'd be happy to trade him to the Flyers.

- jmatchett


That's another factor. I'd bet if they Preds trade Weber, they'd much rather send him to Pittsburgh, New York or New Jersey long before the Flyers
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:14 AM ET
hopefully its this

and not this

- JoeRussomanno



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:14 AM ET
Panaccio says they're not doing line rushes at morning skate. He was told Knuble was in, so it may be that Wellwood was recalled to have an extra body on the trip.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:15 AM ET
Panaccio says they're not doing line rushes at morning skate. He was told Knuble was in, so it may be that Wellwood was recalled to have an extra body on the trip.
- Jsaquella


But Wellwood is the greatest!!!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 5 @ 11:15 AM ET
But Wellwood is the greatest!!!
- NickTheKid87

great, are couch is ruining the lines again
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:16 AM ET
PHO & WPG need a center
- isaiah520


I would like Bogosian from WPG as well but I'm not sure I'd give up Couturier for him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
yep and the flyers can always send cash their way
- Just5



That is incorrect. A team cannot trade cash to another team.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
But Wellwood is the greatest!!!
- NickTheKid87

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
great, are couch is ruining the lines again
- BulliesPhan87


Wellwood not playing is going to be a big thing today/tonight on Twitter. Book it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
great, are couch is ruining the lines again
- BulliesPhan87


Are couch is awful. He shud be a great couch, like couch Paterno, who past from snitchin' smh
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:18 AM ET
Absolutely not. All we need to do is acquire Crosby and then flip him to Nashville.
- jmatchett



eh that Crosby kid will never amount to anything
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:18 AM ET
But Wellwood is the greatest!!!
- NickTheKid87


Then again, it's Tim, so Wellwood might be named captain and take Giroux's spot
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