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Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
What's your prediction for next 2 games against Pens, and Bruins with Foster entering the lineup for Grossmann?
- PLindbergh31

If they go 0-3 they're out
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
We talked about this before. Playing defense is about a hell of a lot more then back-checking hard. They're not well Coached.
- MJL


They're not well coached, unfortunately. As far as being able to spur them and motivate them in game, he's fine. But when it comes to making adjustments and limiting mistakes, there's just nothing going on.

We're not talking about a guy mis-reading on a lot of these mistakes, it's basic hockey stuff that would get an atom player a seat on the bench and a talking to.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
This entire board is hilarious man
- Yosimar89

Yes but... Oh (frank) it I need another drink
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
What's your prediction for next 2 games against Pens, and Bruins with Foster entering the lineup for Grossmann?
- PLindbergh31


They better get their shot together for Thursday. Any confirmation that grossmann is out?
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
blackhawks destroying the wild
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand back to under .500 again. this is just not a very good team. they are what they are. and at this point, i couldn't care less if they fired lava. he's doing nothing to make a difference.
- hammarby31


Lava will not make them a defensive minded team.

If the organization wants to run around like a headless chicken and switch the identity every few seasons because they threw a piece of poop on the ice, then so be it.

KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
More importantly, is Marc Staal okay?

His eye got destroyed.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
Don't know that Grossmann isn't going to play. I don't look at every injury as if its the end of the World.
- MJL


True. And it could be Lilja and not Foster, so that would change the equation.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
Its not "go, go, go" at all.

It would be if they had a D-core that was NHL caliber. As of right now it is not, and the forwards are getting ass-(frank)ed along the boards every damn time.

Murray can come in here and demand good defensive play. I hope he has a cure for the stupidity on the team.

- flyer_nutter


Murray benches guys that make stupid mistakes. Laviolette increases their ice times.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
get me the gif of Bryz standing still while Nash rapes him
- Winning

Bryz had a bad game but he is the main reason this team is sniffing 500....
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
instead of being up by 3 on the rangers, they're now trailing by 1 with the rangers having three games in hand. this is a big loss, and an totally unacceptable effort. the rangers, btw, did nothing special to win, except score on every bad self inflicted mistake the flyers made. they beat themselves.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
blackhawks destroying the wild
- flyfan1212

ANSWER ME
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
get me the gif of Bryz standing still while Nash rapes him
- Winning


Calm down, tough guy. Nash will beat a lot of goalies with shots from that position.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
Bryz had a bad game but he is the main reason this team is sniffing 500....
- Philly1980

He sure doesn't steal any games. I agree
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
Calm down, tough guy. Nash will beat a lot of goalies with shots from that position.
- Feanor

all goalies will stand still with a thumb up there ass and smile.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
He sure doesn't steal any games. I agree
- Winning


You're being ridiculous.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET


lol one loss and it's chickens/ heads/lava/kimmo/freakouts



Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
They're not well coached, unfortunately. As far as being able to spur them and motivate them in game, he's fine. But when it comes to making adjustments and limiting mistakes, there's just nothing going on.

We're not talking about a guy mis-reading on a lot of these mistakes, it's basic hockey stuff that would get an atom player a seat on the bench and a talking to.

- Jsaquella

They go 0-3 and you can bet your ass Murray is in
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
Its not "go, go, go" at all.

It would be if they had a D-core that was NHL caliber. As of right now it is not, and the forwards are getting ass-(frank)ed along the boards every damn time.

Murray can come in here and demand good defensive play. I hope he has a cure for the stupidity on the team.

- flyer_nutter


Yes, it is go, go, go. The defense is NHL caliber. Put this defense on a team that plays the right way, with support, and checks in all 3 zones. And Coaching can and has corrected errors made by players. Especially when it's the same ones over and over.

The Flyers clearly came out in the 3rd, looking to be more aggressive. Undoubtedly done because the Coach wanted them to push to create more 5 on 5 offense.
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
ANSWER ME
- Winning

yes
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
Welp, that was pathetic. I'm really starting to think Lavy's days are numbered. Too damn many of the mistakes being made time and time again are looking more and more like bad coaching.

Not all, but an alarming percentage. One or two more games like this and he's toast.

- BringBack25


The thing is this though.

Who on that back end had a good game? What do you want Lava to do with that?

Coburn has had a career defined by being streaky. Kimmo is aging, and there is a reason Gervais is what he is. Nobody is going to come in here and improve the players. The management has built a sack of poop team on D, and the goaltending is back to questionable.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
No it's not related at all to my personal belief that a defensive minded system is better. It's tied to my belief that you have to play well both ways, and in all 3 zones.
This Coach and his style of play, is a huge contributor to why they aren't good enough. It has always been this way with Laviolette's teams. And I've talked about it since the day he was hired.

- MJL


Lavy's "system" requires a lot more effort from the forwards, all game every game. It also needs speed throughout the lineup for it to be effective. We don't have the speed this year, and we're not getting the consistent high energy forecheck, and ferocious back checking every night. Bottom line is this team isn't built to play as aggressively as Lavy wants them to play, and they are simply not able to execute his game plan well on a consistent basis.

If you don't have the horses to play a certain style, at some point you have to change styles. Or you're going to lose a lot of games.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
He sure doesn't steal any games. I agree
- Winning


He just stole the last one.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:18 PM ET
watching knuble slop onto the ice as the extra attacker. lavi is clueless
- flyfan1212

Yea that is kinda silly okay you get a mulligan but our (frank)ing team lost to the rags man!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:18 PM ET
lol one loss and it's chickens/ heads/lava/kimmo/freakouts
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I say lavy because its the same mistakes over and over again
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