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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
After 2

London - 4
Kitchener - 1

Stolarz (London) has 17 saves.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yes. I want to yell at everyone who feels they got screwed.
- Jsaquella

I find it more relevant to cry about Patrick Sharp.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
I find it more relevant to cry about Patrick Sharp.
- JoeRussomanno


It is, because the Flyers never had a chance at Patrick Kane. They didn't get screwed, that was the rule in place.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
It is, because the Flyers never had a chance at Patrick Kane. They didn't get screwed, that was the rule in place.
- Jsaquella

I dont dwell on kane too much. It's hard enough thinking about all the other poop that coulda woulda shoulda actually been for this team.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
You are correct. If a player is not cleared to play, he can not be waived. Injured players can be traded, so long as the injuries are disclosed and accepted by the team acquiring the player.
- Jsaquella


Interesting. Would it make sense then, for the Flyers to try and trade Pronger to a team that struggles to reach the cap floor. Pronger could retire after the trade, he could then most likely collect insurance since he is retiring due to injury. The acquiring team now has a 4.9million cap hit for the next 4 years to help them reach the floor and the flyers get some cap relief.

I could see them trading Pronger to either Phoenix, the Islanders or Nashville. They could offer Pronger and a 2nd in 14 for maybe a 4th in 14. I would trade a second round pick to get out from under Pronger's deal.

Thoughts?
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
It is, because the Flyers never had a chance at Patrick Kane. They didn't get screwed, that was the rule in place.
- Jsaquella


Yup. Plus the past is the past. I didn't really mind JVCARter either. Too bad they had to ship him out to get Schenn but I enjoy L. Schenn's game and I am glad that he found his game since coming to Philly.

If they can stay healthy, get Mez back, stay healthy some more, and string together some Ws they can make for an interesting season. With the turnover from last season and the young core, I really had no expectations. I'd like to see them make the postseason and see what they can do. If they can keep the core together, they should be fun to watch for the foreseeable future.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
Interesting. Would it make sense then, for the Flyers to try and trade Pronger to a team that struggles to reach the cap floor. Pronger could retire after the trade, he could then most likely collect insurance since he is retiring due to injury. The acquiring team now has a 4.9million cap hit for the next 4 years to help them reach the floor and the flyers get some cap relief.

I could see them trading Pronger to either Phoenix, the Islanders or Nashville. They could offer Pronger and a 2nd in 14 for maybe a 4th in 14. I would trade a second round pick to get out from under Pronger's deal.

Thoughts?

- BiggE


I can't see a team taking on that kind of cap casualty for 5 more years. Teams that make deals like the Isles did for Tim Thomas usually only want dead cap for a year or two.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 3:59 PM ET
I can't see a team taking on that kind of cap casualty for 5 more years. Teams that make deals like the Isles did for Tim Thomas usually only want dead cap for a year or two.
- Jsaquella

so in a couple years then?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
so in a couple years then?
- JoeRussomanno


If he's got a year or two left, and they haven't found a way to get out of it, yeah, possibly.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:13 PM ET
Toews is better than tweedle dee and tweedle dum, sorry, and where the eff is Giroux on this list?! I'll take G over maybe Stamkos Malkin and definitely Sedin, they can suck it

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658085&navid=DL|NHL|home
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:18 PM ET
Make it Harry Z or KNuble or Wellwood for your experiment. I like Rinaldo in the lineup.
- Lexington Flyer


It shouldn't matter if there is no suspension the league is saying that the crosscheck to the head is acceptable or at least not suspension worthy. Yes there would be a penalty but no suspension.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:20 PM ET
zolnersuck suspended 4 games
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:26 PM ET
[quote=JoeRussomanno]zolnersuck suspended

I was thinking 2-4. Alfie better get 2
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:27 PM ET
Where are you seeing this
- LJF


TSN
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
Where are you seeing this
- LJF

Flyer facebook page
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
TSN
- funmaster18


Saw it right after I posted
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
[quote=JoeRussomanno]zolnersuck suspended

I was thinking 2-4. Alfie better get 2

- LJF

what did neal get last year? 1 game? Shannahan sucks
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:30 PM ET
jesus we should have had kane
- 2Real

he just wouldve been sent packing with Richie and Carter anyway.

LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:30 PM ET
what did neal get last year? 1 game? Shannahan sucks
- JoeRussomanno


Problem is he isn't consistent.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
Problem is he isn't consistent.
- LJF

pretty much.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
Problem is he isn't consistent.
- LJF

I still say the decisions should be made by a 3 member team. Shanny(or whatever former player), Former Ref, Somebody from the war room. 2/3 needed for suspension, all three must agree on length of suspension.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
You know what's ridiculous? It seems like the Hawks have been winning since the beginning of time....

And they're still 13 from the Flyers' record
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
I still say the decisions should be made by a 3 member team. Shanny(or whatever former player), Former Ref, Somebody from the war room. 2/3 needed for suspension, all three must agree on length of suspension.
- hereticpride

how bout just make suspensions cut and dry. Dirty hit, first time offense =x second time and so and so forth. If its something like Torres on Hossa than throw a solid 25 games down the (frank)ers throat regardless who he is. Just stop with the favoritism and butt buddy crap
Multiple Scorgasms
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 12.24.2008

Mar 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
I know you guys are probably not too happy with the suspension but I think it was the right decision. I won't comment on what alfie did, I'll leave it up to the league for discipline. I have no problem with big hits, in fact I love them, but why would HZ leave his feet like that? He charged from the bench, took a run at a player and then left his feet. Sadly, if he didn't leave his feet, he still would have creamed Lundin and it'd be a clean hard legal hit.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
I was offered B. Schenn and Couture for Eric Staal
what do you guys think?
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