I have a question that maybe some one could answer.

If Colorado does not match the offer, what would have stopped Calgary from just keeping ROR in the AHL for the rest of this season?

Would ROR be subject to waivers at the beginning of next season?
- Mystery

NHL said that he'd have to be placed on waivers as soon as the contract is signed. They can't have him play in AHL or elsewhere

Why should Feaster get a break? A simple phone call to the NHL offices should have been made to be absolutely sure of the rules. I mean, the new CBA isn't even written yet, there's no shame in calling up and saying, "We're thinking of doing an offer sheet, what are the ramifications?"

I'd fire him, even though Sherman took him off the hook.
- Jsaquella

Problem is the league admitted that they didn't know he played those 2 games,

Problem is the league admitted that they didn't know he played those 2 games,
- Mystery

Considering the stewardship of the NHL, I find this very unsurprising.

nobody knew about the rule NHL, GM's, Media, HIS AGENT, the player himself...a day later everyone is an expert on the subject.

Colorado matched and every team would have picked him up on waivers so the contract can't be that bad...guy was the Avs best player last year

you mean making colossal oversights while being in charge of a multi-million dollar business isn't excusable?
- Barx

And then telling the world he still thinks he was right after he learned he wasn't?

It's like watching a slow-motion train wreck

I have a question that maybe some one could answer.

If Colorado does not match the offer, what would have stopped Calgary from just keeping ROR in the AHL for the rest of this season?

Would ROR be subject to waivers at the beginning of next season?
- Mystery

calgary was obligated to put him on waivers regardless on where or if he was playing.

NHL said that he'd have to be placed on waivers as soon as the contract is signed. They can't have him play in AHL or elsewhere
- Jsaquella

Yea I guess that makes sense, he would have had to clear waivers to be sent to the minors.

nobody knew about the rule NHL, GM's, Media, HIS AGENT, the player himself...a day later everyone is an expert on the subject.

Colorado matched and every team would have picked him up on waivers so the contract can't be that bad...guy was the Avs best player last year
- flashfire

mike johnson said it best on tsn. It doesn't matter so much if the player, agent, colorado etc. knew the rule or not, but Calgary when offering 10m and a 1st and 3rd must know 100% what the rule is. Feaster says he disagrees with the nhl's interpretation but it doesn't really matter what Feaster thinks. All he had to do was make 1 call and he didn't and it could've severely hurt the team

calgary was obligated to put him on waivers regardless on where or if he was playing.
- sens rock

unless they traded for his waiver rights

why would Colorado not match even if they knew though? Doesn't change anything for them...they chose him over the picks

As a Canucks fan, I dislike the flames, but from a purely unbiased perspective, this was a terrible mistake. It could have cost the flames two picks next year without even getting a player in return. It also just made 22 year old 2 way C a $6.5m player (the required qualifying offer at the end of next season or he becomes an UFA). Isn't this the kind of thing that the last lockout was supposed to stop?
- 1970vintage

It would have cost them 2.5mil signing bouns as well.

I like how they are trying to blame the NHL for not catching it....bumbling fools.

I am not a big fan of Feaster in the first place.But the guy has a law degree and was a NHL executive of the year for Tampa.Could he have been that stupid or is there a little more to this story then us armchair GM's know?I am willing to bet theres a little more to this then we know and i am a Leaf fan.

I would be willing to cut the guy some slack unless he almost cost my team millions.Who knows,surely both GM's aren't this stupid,or are they?

It would have cost them 2.5mil signing bouns as well.

I like how they are trying to blame the NHL for not catching it....bumbling fools.
- Muskoka88

the wording in the CBA is very unclear...its an obvious mistake in the CBA and the NHL is letting others take the rap. Two GM's and a player agent. NHL didn't even know about it until and media member noticed, now they all pile on

the wording in the CBA is very unclear...its an obvious mistake in the CBA and the NHL is letting others take the rap. Two GM's and a player agent. NHL didn't even know about it until and media member noticed, now they all pile on
- flashfire

The CBA isn't even written yet. The NHL is running on a Memoranda Of Understanding. The actual CBA isn't even completed.

That's why Feaster should have called, given them all the info and gotten an answer before doing an offer sheet.

It would have cost them 2.5mil signing bouns as well.

I like how they are trying to blame the NHL for not catching it....bumbling fools.
- Muskoka88

the nhl does need to take some blame for the situation, but if feaster does his due dilligence and makes the call then the nhl would of looked into it and gave them their answer. This all falls on feaster and the flames upper management.

It would have cost them 2.5mil signing bouns as well.

I like how they are trying to blame the NHL for not catching it....bumbling fools.
- Muskoka88

Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought perhaps because he had to clear waivers before reporting that the team claiming him might have to pay the bonus.

Give him a break? Seriously? It could have been a (frank) up of major proportions. He's a professional man behind building a team that can ill afford to piss away picks. This wouldn't have been a little mistake like burning somebody (frank)ing supper. How does a man in his position allow that to happen?

I am not a big fan of Feaster in the first place.But the guy has a law degree and was a NHL executive of the year for Tampa.Could he have been that stupid or is there a little more to this story then us armchair GM's know?I am willing to bet theres a little more to this then we know and i am a Leaf fan.

I would be willing to cut the guy some slack unless he almost cost my team millions.Who knows,surely both GM's aren't this stupid,or are they?
- nbboy

It's so (frank)ing hard admitting we really don't know everything. It's best to never do it because somebody might have this page book marked now. So thanks for ruining the power of the blue and white.

It's so (frank)ing hard admitting we really don't know everything. It's best to never do it because somebody might have this page book marked now. So thanks for ruining the power of the blue and white.
- weirdoh

It's so (frank)ing hard admitting we really don't know everything. It's best to never do it because somebody might have this page book marked now. So thanks for ruining the power of the blue and white.
- weirdoh

Travis Yost mentioned the possibility of collusion on twitter-hinting that maybe Sherman and Feaster worked together so that Sherman could get O'Reilly back and point out to his ownership that his hands were tied and he had no choice but to match the OS.

...The difference being that those other GMs didn't give O'Reilly an offer sheet. Granted, Eklund said that "Jay Feaster was NOT alone in the attempt to offer sheet O'Reilly," but since I haven't heard of any other offer sheets that were extended - yes. Yes he was alone in the attempt.

Just because I'm interested in an 80" TV doesn't mean that I attempted to buy one.

If Feaster can't handle a complex CBA, then he should get out of town. He's not doing anybody any favours.
- tryan83

You don't know that they didn't try to offer sheet ROR. He may have just not signed their offers.

...and that's what we call a f'u'c'k'u'p

You don't know that they didn't try to offer sheet ROR. He may have just not signed their offers.
- EatASandwich

apparently he was offered 4 others and declined them.

Give Feaster a break? That is a good one.
- Gunner Staal

Give him a donut instead!

You don't know that they didn't try to offer sheet ROR. He may have just not signed their offers.
- EatASandwich

No offense intended to Flames fans here, but if the money and term on any other offer sheet was identical, I can't see him choosing Calgary's situation over that of many other teams. I'm guessing that if anyone else offer sheeted him, they weren't interested enough to give him the kind of money he was asking for, and therefore knew he wouldn't go for it. I don't consider a half-hearted attempt to be legitimate.

As a Canucks fan, I dislike the flames, but from a purely unbiased perspective, this was a terrible mistake. It could have cost the flames two picks next year without even getting a player in return. It also just made 22 year old 2 way C a $6.5m player (the required qualifying offer at the end of next season or he becomes an UFA). Isn't this the kind of thing that the last lockout was supposed to stop?
- 1970vintage

Could should maybe blah. Didn't end up happening. It wouldn't have been that cut and dry.
Oh.. and regardless of if he was with Cal or Col, they would have looked at re-signing him at a better priced deal. I doubt either team had plans to qualify him at 6.5.