The-O-G
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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Slack? Are you kidding me? YOU ARE THE GM OF AN NHL FRANCHISE!!!
If you are going to do something as bold as tendering an offer sheet you better have your ducks in a row! His "misinterpretation" excuse doesn't make things any better either. If you aren't 100% sure you ASK THE LEAGUE. There is absolutely no room for error in situations like that. Feaster is lucky they matched, but he should still lose his job. It's like trying to rob a bank, failing, getting caught, and then getting thrown in jail. Doesn't matter if you got away with any money or not, the act was still commited. |
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It's a PR mess the flames could not afford to have. All Feaster had to do was call the NHL to find out the rules. According to his statement it looks like he knew the rule and at worst woud have challenged it. That is not a good move by a GM, considering what was at stake.
The worst part is with his short statement he said he would not comment on it further. You can bet the press is now going to hound the players for answers. The players have enough on their hands as is, they did not need this distraction.
Feaster will not be fired for this incident alone. He will probably be fired at the end of the season when the flames don't make the playoffs, and Iginla does not re-sign. This offer sheet incident will put him over the top. |
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cocav135
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 07.01.2009
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Slack? Are you kidding me? YOU ARE THE GM OF AN NHL FRANCHISE!!!
If you are going to do something as bold as tendering an offer sheet you better have your ducks in a row! His "misinterpretation" excuse doesn't make things any better either. If you aren't 100% sure you ASK THE LEAGUE. There is absolutely no room for error in situations like that. Feaster is lucky they matched, but he should still lose his job. It's like trying to rob a bank, failing, getting caught, and then getting thrown in jail. Doesn't matter if you got away with any money or not, the act was still commited. - The-O-G
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FLflames34
Calgary Flames |
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Location: ., HI Joined: 02.26.2010
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Slack? Are you kidding me? YOU ARE THE GM OF AN NHL FRANCHISE!!!
If you are going to do something as bold as tendering an offer sheet you better have your ducks in a row! His "misinterpretation" excuse doesn't make things any better either. If you aren't 100% sure you ASK THE LEAGUE. There is absolutely no room for error in situations like that. Feaster is lucky they matched, but he should still lose his job. It's like trying to rob a bank, failing, getting caught, and then getting thrown in jail. Doesn't matter if you got away with any money or not, the act was still commited. - The-O-G
So- what you are saying is that you were a bigger fan of Feaster the journalist on thn than Feaster the manager of your team?
How do you really feel? |
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Ek said it in this blog, MANY GM's missed this; the obvious ones being involved, Feaster and Sherman.
Could it have been a colossal mistake, you betcha'! Is Feaster going to hear about this one from his bosses, yep. But, IMO the league should as embarrassed as anyone about this for creating yet another big loophole in the CBA.
I just hope everyone learns from this. - TandA4Flames
What loophole do you think the league created. All they did was allow for a team to sign their own free agents to contracts and bring them back to the NHL without having to clear waivers first.
Nowhere in that rule does it state that a player can join a different team, that does not own his rights without being put through waivers. |
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PAY-DIRT
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 02.17.2013
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Why do we breed and accept ignorance as as bein ok?
Claiming "not to understand the rules" is not a valid excuse for any GM in this situation. Call the NHL for clarification if in doubt. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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I think Sherman should be raked over the coals for not doing his due diligence before matching much more than Feaster, who could have sued the league due to legal interpretation.
Instead, not only does Colorado not use any of their afforded week to research, they are handcuffed for an overpayment on a #2 C that they didn't really need (as much as they need D, for instance).
If you ask me, this should cause Sherman to be fired, not Feaster - FLflames34
This is also very true! |
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Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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FIRSTIES!!!
Any Habs rumours!?!?
Nuff said |
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nathanjf
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Quebec, QC Joined: 11.25.2010
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Won't give Feaster a break. #idiot |
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Jay feaster is the worst gm among active managers in the NHL, and that was before this latest blunder. I would be scared poopless if he was in charge of my team. - BodyCheckRadio
Not to defend Feaster, but seriously, who is dumber, the guy that signed him or the guy that matched? |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Not to defend Feaster, but seriously, who is dumber, the guy that signed him or the guy that matched? - TandA4Flames
It's a tie! |
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What loophole do you think the league created. All they did was allow for a team to sign their own free agents to contracts and bring them back to the NHL without having to clear waivers first.
Nowhere in that rule does it state that a player can join a different team, that does not own his rights without being put through waivers. - Mystery
Right, but then why even have the RFA rule? Perhaps the NHLPA should have some concerns with this because if everyone understood this then ROR has absolutely 0 leverage. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Eklund: Give Feaster a Break. Should Colorado ask for a a "Do-over." - Eklund
Why should Feaster get a break? A simple phone call to the NHL offices should have been made to be absolutely sure of the rules. I mean, the new CBA isn't even written yet, there's no shame in calling up and saying, "We're thinking of doing an offer sheet, what are the ramifications?"
I'd fire him, even though Sherman took him off the hook. |
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Ek said it in this blog, MANY GM's missed this; the obvious ones being involved, Feaster and Sherman.
- TandA4Flames
...The difference being that those other GMs didn't give O'Reilly an offer sheet. Granted, Eklund said that "Jay Feaster was NOT alone in the attempt to offer sheet O'Reilly," but since I haven't heard of any other offer sheets that were extended - yes. Yes he was alone in the attempt.
Just because I'm interested in an 80" TV doesn't mean that I attempted to buy one.
If Feaster can't handle a complex CBA, then he should get out of town. He's not doing anybody any favours. |
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whipper334
Calgary Flames |
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Location: The man they call Reveen!! Joined: 01.06.2010
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Not to defend Feaster, but seriously, who is dumber, the guy that signed him or the guy that matched? - TandA4Flames
Both clearly have issues going forward. Shouldn't the league have any culpability for not knowing ROR played over in Russia? |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Good thing we had that lengthy lockout to make sure that GM's would be held accountable for keeping player salaries from rising too quickly |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Why should Feaster get a break? A simple phone call to the NHL offices should have been made to be absolutely sure of the rules. I mean, the new CBA isn't even written yet, there's no shame in calling up and saying, "We're thinking of doing an offer sheet, what are the ramifications?"
I'd fire him, even though Sherman took him off the hook. - Jsaquella
Exactly! It's called due diligence people. It would be like buying a car from a guy in a mall parking lot only to find out it was stolen, too bad for you! |
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habby
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev Joined: 08.31.2006
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j.henderson
Calgary Flames |
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Location: SK Joined: 12.04.2011
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I appreciate this article. Well done. It focuses on some of the issues that are substantial. I would LOVE for Ryan O'Reilly to come out and say which other teams gave him an offer sheet. This would be a comical way to point the finger right back at some of the ignorant comment haters.
Lets be honest, for people who either can't stand their own team, or hate Calgary already, this is just fuel to the fire for ignorant comments. "He sucks. He's the worst. How terrible"
Feaster got the Flames out of cap trouble, managed to get something for Tim Erikson (Wotherspoon, Granlund) and Horak, and brought in a whole new coaching staff. He is making changes, the organization is happy, and so are most of the understanding fans.
In my opinion, this year and next year will be the determining factors for him. Calgary has a lot of trade pieces and Feaster will be known for how his trades in the next 2 years work out. |
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FLflames34
Calgary Flames |
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Location: ., HI Joined: 02.26.2010
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I appreciate this article. Well done. It focuses on some of the issues that are substantial. I would LOVE for Ryan O'Reilly to come out and say which other teams gave him an offer sheet. This would be a comical way to point the finger right back at some of the ignorant comment haters.
Lets be honest, for people who either can't stand their own team, or hate Calgary already, this is just fuel to the fire for ignorant comments. "He sucks. He's the worst. How terrible"
Feaster got the Flames out of cap trouble, managed to get something for Tim Erikson (Wotherspoon, Granlund) and Horak, and brought in a whole new coaching staff. He is making changes, the organization is happy, and so are most of the understanding fans.
In my opinion, this year and next year will be the determining factors for him. Calgary has a lot of trade pieces and Feaster will be known for how his trades in the next 2 years work out. - j.henderson
Unless they make the playoffs and (most likely required) win a series this yr, he is done. |
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I have a question that maybe some one could answer.
If Colorado does not match the offer, what would have stopped Calgary from just keeping ROR in the AHL for the rest of this season?
Would ROR be subject to waivers at the beginning of next season?
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hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society. Joined: 07.03.2007
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j.henderson
Calgary Flames |
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Location: SK Joined: 12.04.2011
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Unless they make the playoffs and (most likely required) win a series this yr, he is done. - FLflames34
How do you know this? Is it in his contract somewhere? |
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Right, but then why even have the RFA rule? Perhaps the NHLPA should have some concerns with this because if everyone understood this then ROR has absolutely 0 leverage. - TandA4Flames
But that was ROR's fault for playing in those 2 games after the season started.
If he doesn't play those games then this offer sheet would have been valid. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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I appreciate this article. Well done. It focuses on some of the issues that are substantial. I would LOVE for Ryan O'Reilly to come out and say which other teams gave him an offer sheet. This would be a comical way to point the finger right back at some of the ignorant comment haters.
Lets be honest, for people who either can't stand their own team, or hate Calgary already, this is just fuel to the fire for ignorant comments. "He sucks. He's the worst. How terrible"
Feaster got the Flames out of cap trouble, managed to get something for Tim Erikson (Wotherspoon, Granlund) and Horak, and brought in a whole new coaching staff. He is making changes, the organization is happy, and so are most of the understanding fans.
In my opinion, this year and next year will be the determining factors for him. Calgary has a lot of trade pieces and Feaster will be known for how his trades in the next 2 years work out. - j.henderson
As a Canucks fan, I dislike the flames, but from a purely unbiased perspective, this was a terrible mistake. It could have cost the flames two picks next year without even getting a player in return. It also just made 22 year old 2 way C a $6.5m player (the required qualifying offer at the end of next season or he becomes an UFA). Isn't this the kind of thing that the last lockout was supposed to stop?
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