I like that people are offended by the fat jokes. Way to take that personally.

why quit smoking when you shouldn't have started in the first place...stupid statement
- flashfire

Im day 6 in my 6th attempt at quitting smoking, and it gets better, but still a process.
They say 10 and a half weeks is what ppl need to change themselves for the better/reinforce better habits, whatever the vice.
I don't think it is funny making fun of someone who's vice is eating, no different than a heroin addict or an alcoholic or ...
Good for him, and those who say it a 'personal choice' life happens. And hell, lots of ppl work too much and don't take enough time for whatever they need to work on.

I like that people are offended by the fat jokes. Way to take that personally.
- Fan2

just posting facts the guy has lost a ton of weight. Besides its too easy, some people are actually having a discussion about hockey matters here

Colorado the team that has actually had him play for them would rather pay him that amount than take a 1st and 3rd. Second line center is a matter of opinion. Is RNH a 2nd line center? he will be getting the standard Oiler 6 million dollar 2nd contract
- flashfire

After the offer sheet broke, there were multiple reporters who asked around the league whether Colorado would match. There was no real consensus.

Im day 6 in my 6th attempt at quitting smoking, and it gets better, but still a process.
They say 10 and a half weeks is what ppl need to change themselves for the better/reinforce better habits, whatever the vice.
I don't think it is funny making fun of someone who's vice is eating, no different than a heroin addict or an alcoholic or ...
Good for him, and those who say it a 'personal choice' life happens. And hell, lots of ppl work too much and don't take enough time for whatever they need to work on.
- FLflames34

right exactly my point, everyone has something they could work on. Those in glass houses

just posting facts the guy has lost a ton of weight. Besides its too easy, some people are actually having a discussion about hockey matters here
- flashfire

Not like he's the only fat guy in hockey anyway.

just posting facts the guy has lost a ton of weight. Besides its too easy, some people are actually having a discussion about hockey matters here
- flashfire

You should have went completely white knight and busted out the old "some adults are talking hockey here".

Not like he's the only fat guy in hockey anyway.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Don't worry, Whisper already laid it down when he brought up how Gillis looked.

Yes. Feaster REALLY over paid. By using a signing bonus ROR is essentially getting the equivalent of Ovi for this year. To get 2.9 million to play a quarter of a season? Then 6.5 next year? For a guy that should be at 3-4 per year max? Way over paid.
- Iggysbff

Can we start saying RNH is overpaid yet?
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Can we start saying RNH is overpaid yet?
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- FLflames34

RNH is on an ELC.
Id rather have RNH than ROR for twice the price any day.

Can we start saying RNH is overpaid yet?
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- FLflames34

Familiar with entry level contracts?

Familiar with entry level contracts?
- laughs2907

If he doesnt hit the benchmarks for his bonuses, he doesnt get paid those bonuses, but do they still count against the cap?

Oh snap! A Flames fan just called out an Oiler's player. poop's gonna get real!

If he doesnt hit the benchmarks for his bonuses, he doesnt get paid those bonuses, but do they still count against the cap?
- theblueandgold

Yes they still count against the cap. But that doesn't matter to the oilers right now. They have cap room.

The league should have advised the teams that he played after the lockout was over. The guy played over in Europe with his name changed a bit...NHL is stupid for making Feaster or any other GM who had zero knowledge that he had played.

NHL has looked like a joke since Bettman took over!!!!
- Garnie

Apparently they didn't know. No one knew, except of course O'Rielly and his agent. If anyone should have said something to Calgary it was his agent when he received the offer sheet. This isn't exactly a new rule, it was around in one form or another in the last CBA. Calgary, and Feaster as the GM, have to take all the blame here. If you're investing that much money into an unproven guy you had better do your homework and evidently it wasn't done. I mean, a guy from Sportsnet who has nothing invested in this one way or the other managed to spot it pretty quickly, but the guys getting paid to know this stuff didn't? Someone should lose their job over this.

How amazing would that have been if Colorado took the picks? That's the sort of deal that makes Mike Milburry look like a genius.

Yes they still count against the cap. But that doesn't matter to the oilers right now. They have cap room.
- Iggysbff

Oh, I thought bonus money that didnt get reached was adjusted in the cap. If you hover over the ? for bonuses on a teams page on capgeek it states "Maximum performance bonuses that could be earned by players on active roster/injured reserve/injured non-roster. This number does not include adjustments for bonuses ruled unattainable by the league."

Crazy that you guys have 4 max bonuses though! Thats almost like the Flames giving out all those NTC/NMC's to players!

Apparently they didn't know. No one knew, except of course O'Rielly and his agent. If anyone should have said something to Calgary it was his agent when he received the offer sheet. This isn't exactly a new rule, it was around in one form or another in the last CBA. Calgary, and Feaster as the GM, have to take all the blame here. If you're investing that much money into an unproven guy you had better do your homework and evidently it wasn't done. I mean, a guy from Sportsnet who has nothing invested in this one way or the other managed to spot it pretty quickly, but the guys getting paid to know this stuff didn't? Someone should lose their job over this.

How amazing would that have been if Colorado took the picks? That's the sort of deal that makes Mike Milburry look like a genius.
- Jeffmt

I dont think anyone should lose their job. They basically just had different interpretations. Hell, other teams were probably the same way.

Calgary understood the language that as ROR was an RFA, he was protected. The League understands the language that as ROR was an RFA, he is only protected if he signs with COL and not any other team.

Apparently they didn't know. No one knew, except of course O'Rielly and his agent. If anyone should have said something to Calgary it was his agent when he received the offer sheet. This isn't exactly a new rule, it was around in one form or another in the last CBA. Calgary, and Feaster as the GM, have to take all the blame here. If you're investing that much money into an unproven guy you had better do your homework and evidently it wasn't done. I mean, a guy from Sportsnet who has nothing invested in this one way or the other managed to spot it pretty quickly, but the guys getting paid to know this stuff didn't? Someone should lose their job over this.

How amazing would that have been if Colorado took the picks? That's the sort of deal that makes Mike Milburry look like a genius.
- Jeffmt

Hard to say whether he knew or not. On one hand he must have drooled when he saw the 6.5M qualifier after year 2, on the other hand it would be a really scummy thing to do that presumably would screw up his relations with the Flames (not to mention, it would screw over the client as well, because it means O'Reilly could have ended up on some team like Columbus). According to Feaster, the agent had the same interpretation of the rule as he did.

Also it's clear that Colorado didn't know about this rule either because otherwise they would have either had him signed or traded weeks ago; the inability of a team to offer sheet him would have meant far more leverage in both trade and contract negotiations.

I agree that Feaster should be skewered for this but he's not the only one who screwed up.

Oh, I thought bonus money that didnt get reached was adjusted in the cap. If you hover over the ? for bonuses on a teams page on capgeek it states "Maximum performance bonuses that could be earned by players on active roster/injured reserve/injured non-roster. This number does not include adjustments for bonuses ruled unattainable by the league."

Crazy that you guys have 4 max bonuses though! Thats almost like the Flames giving out all those NTC/NMC's to players!
- theblueandgold

Not really, those are pretty standard ELCs for top overall picks.

RNH is on an ELC.
Id rather have RNH than ROR for twice the price any day.
- Iggysbff

So, he is playing for free then? No, ok.
And I presume you are highly impressed with his performance this yr.
If I am not mistaken, Stajan has more points on a more friendly salary number.

So, he is playing for free then? No, ok.
And I presume you are highly impressed with his performance this yr.
If I am not mistaken, Stajan has more points on a more friendly salary number.

- FLflames34

Okay now you're just trolling.

Okay now you're just trolling.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Okay now you're just trolling.
- S Kaspar Rollins

Although, I would say he is part of the problem with the Oil not being in a playoff spot now. I think he gets a pass this season since he is young, but if it continues next season, cause for concern.

So, he is playing for free then? No, ok.
And I presume you are highly impressed with his performance this yr.
If I am not mistaken, Stajan has more points on a more friendly salary number.

- FLflames34

Ouch!

Hard to say whether he knew or not. On one hand he must have drooled when he saw the 6.5M qualifier after year 2, on the other hand it would be a really scummy thing to do that presumably would screw up his relations with the Flames (not to mention, it would screw over the client as well, because it means O'Reilly could have ended up on some team like Columbus). According to Feaster, the agent had the same interpretation of the rule as he did.Also it's clear that Colorado didn't know about this rule either because otherwise they would have either had him signed or traded weeks ago; the inability of a team to offer sheet him would have meant far more leverage in both trade and contract negotiations.

I agree that Feaster should be skewered for this but he's not the only one who screwed up.
- S Kaspar Rollins

According to the agent...they never had any discussiona about it with Feaster....