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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
nhl networks says hit clean
- 2Real


technically it wasn't because his feet did come off the ice, barely, just before impact. i don't think that part of it, the way it happened, really made any difference and doesn't make it dirty. it's not like he targeted the guys head from 10 feet, lept in the air and drilled him. i'd feel the same way if the situation were reversed.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
Harry, Harry, Harry. It's not rocket science son. Keep your damn skates on the ice. If you need a lesson in this watch how Schenn and Grossmann do it. If McGinn isn't ready to go, whats wrong with giving Wellwood a shot on the 4th line. He'll give you just as much speed as Harry Z without the dumb penalties.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:50 PM ET
Clean hit. Case closed. Lineup spot cemented.
- PLindbergh31


You got the previous Harry Z hit wrong, and you got this one wrong also. He's going to be suspended and rightly so.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 2 @ 12:50 PM ET
And almost got in an accident after the game, as he was texting while driving
- Jsaquella


Have some pride Rick, hang em up already.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:50 PM ET
I'm impressed with the way they play. For all the reasons you listed this team should not be this good.

I am a fan of Bishop though. This guy could start on some teams if you ask me.

- stveshdy


Bishop is solid. And Lehner is a hell of a prospect as well. He played a great game in Boston Thursday night. Sens have 3 very capable goaltenders. Would make sense for them to trade one.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 2 @ 12:51 PM ET
You got the previous Harry Z hit wrong, and you got this one wrong also. He's going to be suspended and rightly so.
- MJL


At fast speed I thought the hit was clean. Watching the replay he does leave his skates. Very close hit but I can see him getting suspended.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm impressed with the way they play. For all the reasons you listed this team should not be this good.

I am a fan of Bishop though. This guy could start on some teams if you ask me.

- stveshdy


MacLean is no joke as a coach, they play this way every game. Not the most talented, especially with the injuries. Interesting note, Luke Richardson is the Bingo coach. He and MacLean employ the same systems on purpose, same practices. Makes it a smoother transistion for call-ups.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
Bishop is solid. And Lehner is a hell of a prospect as well. He played a great game in Boston Thursday night. Sens have 3 very capable goaltenders. Would make sense for them to trade one.
- PLindbergh31


I would move Anderson if I was Ottawa. Stock is sky high and he's older than both guys. Ottawa has a solid team but may be a few years away from being a legitimate contender.
TheMike12
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
NHLN: "Harry Z hit was clean." Minute later: "Thing I don't like is Harry left his feet for the hit." Minute later: "He'll be suspended."

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
And almost got in an accident after the game, as he was texting while driving
- Jsaquella

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
Have some pride Rick, hang em up already.
- BiggE


If he retires, he gives up $36 million dollars.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
technically it wasn't because his feet did come off the ice, barely, just before impact. i don't think that part of it, the way it happened, really made any difference and doesn't make it dirty. it's not like he targeted the guys head from 10 feet, lept in the air and drilled him. i'd feel the same way if the situation were reversed.
- hammarby31

you could argue on any hit your feet come off the ice
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bishop is solid. And Lehner is a hell of a prospect as well. He played a great game in Boston Thursday night. Sens have 3 very capable goaltenders. Would make sense for them to trade one.
- PLindbergh31


Exactly what I mentioned earlier. It may not happen until the draft, but a healthy Anderson and Lehner, and Bishop will likely be dealt. He could definitely start for numerous teams right now.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
MacLean is no joke as a coach, they play this way every game. Not the most talented, especially with the injuries. Interesting note, Luke Richardson is the Bingo coach. He and MacLean employ the same systems on purpose, same practices. Makes it a smoother transistion for call-ups.
- Rocktane


He does a fantastic job.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bishop is solid. And Lehner is a hell of a prospect as well. He played a great game in Boston Thursday night. Sens have 3 very capable goaltenders. Would make sense for them to trade one.
- PLindbergh31

i know you're salivating over your homie craig anderson
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
I would move Anderson if I was Ottawa. Stock is sky high and he's older than both guys. Ottawa has a solid team but may be a few years away from being a legitimate contender.
- stveshdy


I doubt Anderson has any trade value. He stinks. Everyone said so 3 years ago.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
you could argue on any hit your feet come off the ice
- 2Real


His feet left the ice before the contact, though. That's the dividing line.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
If he retires, he gives up $36 million dollars.
- Jsaquella


Point noted
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
NHLN: "Harry Z hit was clean." Minute later: "Thing I don't like is Harry left his feet for the hit." Minute later: "He'll be suspended."
- TheMike12




may not have been premeditated murder, but certainly wasn't "clean"
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
Can't leave your feet like that, Z. Definite suspension.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
His feet left the ice before the contact, though. That's the dividing line.
- Jsaquella


And also how he crouched low and launched into the hit. Good call on the ice, and he'll be getting a phone call from Mr. Shanahan.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
I doubt Anderson has any trade value. He stinks. Everyone said so 3 years ago.
- PLindbergh31


I heard that about Mike Smith also. Some players come on later in their careers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
And also how he crouched low and launched into the hit. Good call on the ice, and he'll be getting a phone call from Mr. Shanahan.
- MJL


And as soon as his suspension is over, he should get a call from Mr Holmgren, telling him what time his bus for Glens Falls is leaving.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:57 PM ET
I heard that about Mike Smith also. Some players come on later in their careers.
- stveshdy


Sens have an embarrassment of riches between the pipes. I'm intrigued by this kid Bishop. 6'7" and very athletic with good mobility for his size.

At his size, if his technique is sound, he gives shooters very little net.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
Exactly what I mentioned earlier. It may not happen until the draft, but a healthy Anderson and Lehner, and Bishop will likely be dealt. He could definitely start for numerous teams right now.
- Rocktane


You would think they would look to move one of them. Having all 3 isn't maximizing their value.
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