and where are they this year? are u just mad cause montreal can turn it around faster then edmonton?
- derm10

again 20 games in last year Minnesota looked glory-bound. I guess Chicago will finish 45-0-3 too.

don't get ahead of yourselves pea soups

Subban and Diaz are good, but it's not gonna get done with Markov, Emelin, Bouillon and Gorges. They'll either have to sign big name UFA (no one wants to play in montreal) or draft high and well. Montreal's doing more of the Flames system
- TheNugeIsHuge

u try and pick apart there defence.....there defence is miles ahead of the oilers... how about u bring up how price won;t win them enough games or something.. ahahaha

again 20 games in last year Minnesota looked glory-bound. I guess Chicago will finish 45-0-3 too.

don't get ahead of yourselves pea soups
- TheNugeIsHuge

with 28 games to go last year only one team made that playoffs that wasn;t in a playoff spot at the time.

If you guys won the lotery again this year, what would you do? Draft drouin?

I knew it.
- soad_live

I think Mon'd like Drouin. Small, fast characters that won't succeed come playoff time.

You are such an Oiler expert so you must know how slow our GM moves....
- OilHorse

too slow.. gunna miss the boat if ownership doesn;t see this and change the management team.

with 28 games to go last year only one team made that playoffs that wasn;t in a playoff spot at the time.
- derm10

that was also 54 games in. Not 20. 9 points are still separating you from 10th. Don't get so ahead of yourselves.

Yeah and Galchenyuk will be better than any of your top 6. Most balanced player.

You know BALANCE??

Oilers suck right now and will for at least 3 years if the dont change mentality.
- soad_live

I think I can comment intelligently on this debate of EDM vs. MTL. Your post about the Oilers needing balance and suggesting they should deal one of the top 6 "untouchables is 100% correct to me, good observation. We desperately need a #2 defenseman who logs tonnes of minutes and plays a slightly more rugged/defensive game (Schultz in my opinion is an acceptable #1...or soon to be). Dubnyk gets a B+ for effort, but he'll never be a champion. So you're correct on all of that.

Comparing the Habs to the Oilers is waaaaaay off base however. Montreal's bottom six is MUCH better, and everyone in Habsland should get on their knees and pray to whatever God Trevor Timmons prays to for landing him Carey Price...Price carries the team, period. Plekanec and Desharnais will also never be champions. Playoffs are a different story and Plecs disappears EVERY year in April..he is just sooooo soft, and David Desharnais is not an NHL caliber player. He would not crack the lineup of most teams in the NHL. (maybe if there was a province that had a pathetic language issue...say Russian...and his name was Paulinov..he would make THAT team! lol)

Markov is not the player people think he is ether, in fact Markov's defense partner should be in the running for MVP each year also. Markov is perhaps the biggest defensive liability on the team, especially the last year.

So, the Oilers need some changes no doubt, but that will put them over the top, from a mediocre team with promise to an elite team. Montreal will always be a team that finishes 6th to 10th and not rock the boat so the most fickle fans in the league can be appeased. It is 80% Carey Price in Montreal, and the soft forwards disappear every April. I like to follow the Habs as my sort of #2 team, but the fan base won't allow them to rebuild and they have a mess to unwind. Taxes, language issues, and fickle fans prevent serious free agents coming here, and they won't have more top 5 picks. (I'd trade ANY Oiler for Galchenyuk other than maybe Eberle and Schultz)

TAlso, Montreal is another example of a team that DESPERATELY needs that big rugged two way center...he just does not exist and is not available.

I know. Eller for Klefbom?
- soad_live

Klefbom projects as around a #3 D man and EDM needs D. Eller'll be a 3rd line C. No thanks.

too slow.. gunna miss the boat if ownership doesn;t see this and change the management team.
- derm10

i see you avoided my question last page...convenient.

i wouldn;t say they are much better then last year.
- derm10

Thanks for this...I can now just read your avatar and ignore your post. What utter nonsense. Debate with your brain, not your emotions.

I think I can comment intelligently on this debate of EDM vs. MTL. Your post about the Oilers needing balance and suggesting they should deal one of the top 6 "untouchables is 100% correct to me, good observation. We desperately need a #2 defenseman who logs tonnes of minutes and plays a slightly more rugged/defensive game (Schultz in my opinion is an acceptable #1...or soon to be). Dubnyk gets a B+ for effort, but he'll never be a champion. So you're correct on all of that.

Comparing the Habs to the Oilers is waaaaaay off base however. Montreal's bottom six is MUCH better, and everyone in Habsland should get on their knees and pray to whatever God Trevor Timmons prays to for landing him Carey Price...Price carries the team, period. Plekanec and Desharnais will also never be champions. Playoffs are a different story and Plecs disappears EVERY year in April..he is just sooooo soft, and David Desharnais is not an NHL caliber player. He would not crack the lineup of most teams in the NHL. (maybe if there was a province that had a pathetic language issue...say Russian...and his name was Paulinov..he would make THAT team! lol)

Markov is not the player people think he is ether, in fact Markov's defense partner should be in the running for MVP each year also. Markov is perhaps the biggest defensive liability on the team, especially the last year.

So, the Oilers need some changes no doubt, but that will put them over the top, from a mediocre team with promise to an elite team. Montreal will always be a team that finishes 6th to 10th and not rock the boat so the most fickle fans in the league can be appeased. It is 80% Carey Price in Montreal, and the soft forwards disappear every April. I like to follow the Habs as my sort of #2 team, but the fan base won't allow them to rebuild and they have a mess to unwind. Taxes, language issues, and fickle fans prevent serious free agents coming here, and they won't have more top 5 picks. (I'd trade ANY Oiler for Galchenyuk other than maybe Eberle and Schultz)

TAlso, Montreal is another example of a team that DESPERATELY needs that big rugged two way center...he just does not exist and is not available.
- JLO961

outher then ebs... how do we know any of the oiler players can bring it come playoffs?
and yeah they may rely on price alot.. but thats the way the team is built.. don;t fault them because they have a different make-up then the oilers and are successful for now.

i see you avoided my question last page...convenient.
- OilHorse

whats the question?

I think I can comment intelligently on this debate of EDM vs. MTL. Your post about the Oilers needing balance and suggesting they should deal one of the top 6 "untouchables is 100% correct to me, good observation. We desperately need a #2 defenseman who logs tonnes of minutes and plays a slightly more rugged/defensive game (Schultz in my opinion is an acceptable #1...or soon to be). Dubnyk gets a B+ for effort, but he'll never be a champion. So you're correct on all of that.

Comparing the Habs to the Oilers is waaaaaay off base however. Montreal's bottom six is MUCH better, and everyone in Habsland should get on their knees and pray to whatever God Trevor Timmons prays to for landing him Carey Price...Price carries the team, period. Plekanec and Desharnais will also never be champions. Playoffs are a different story and Plecs disappears EVERY year in April..he is just sooooo soft, and David Desharnais is not an NHL caliber player. He would not crack the lineup of most teams in the NHL. (maybe if there was a province that had a pathetic language issue...say Russian...and his name was Paulinov..he would make THAT team! lol)

Markov is not the player people think he is ether, in fact Markov's defense partner should be in the running for MVP each year also. Markov is perhaps the biggest defensive liability on the team, especially the last year.

So, the Oilers need some changes no doubt, but that will put them over the top, from a mediocre team with promise to an elite team. Montreal will always be a team that finishes 6th to 10th and not rock the boat so the most fickle fans in the league can be appeased. It is 80% Carey Price in Montreal, and the soft forwards disappear every April. I like to follow the Habs as my sort of #2 team, but the fan base won't allow them to rebuild and they have a mess to unwind. Taxes, language issues, and fickle fans prevent serious free agents coming here, and they won't have more top 5 picks. (I'd trade ANY Oiler for Galchenyuk other than maybe Eberle and Schultz)

TAlso, Montreal is another example of a team that DESPERATELY needs that big rugged two way center...he just does not exist and is not available.
- JLO961

Man I'd love a #2 or #3 D man to play with J Schultz. I'll wait 2 years to see what Galchenyuk brings before I go to lalaland like these MON fans. Dubey's been fantastic. He's at a .917 after a rough game against STL and I wouldn't be surprised if he finished the year with a .920. That's a top 15 goalie in the league, and Pittsburgh won a cup with Fleury in net (I personally think Fleury is brutal). I'll take MON's bottom 6 over EDM's. But top 6? No way in (frank)ing hell.

outher then ebs... how do we know any of the oiler players can bring it come playoffs?
and yeah they may rely on price alot.. but thats the way the team is built.. don;t fault them because they have a different make-up then the oilers and are successful for now.
- derm10

do we know if Gally can bring it in the playoffs?

do we know if Gally can bring it in the playoffs?
- TheNugeIsHuge

never said he could

never said he could
- derm10

he never said any oilers could.

Edit: I'm new. I suck at this editing

he never said that any oilers could
- TheNugeIsHuge

he never said Ebs could
- TheNugeIsHuge

ur point?

ur point?
- derm10

oh my god

I think I can comment intelligently on this debate of EDM vs. MTL. Your post about the Oilers needing balance and suggesting they should deal one of the top 6 "untouchables is 100% correct to me, good observation. We desperately need a #2 defenseman who logs tonnes of minutes and plays a slightly more rugged/defensive game (Schultz in my opinion is an acceptable #1...or soon to be). Dubnyk gets a B+ for effort, but he'll never be a champion. So you're correct on all of that.

Comparing the Habs to the Oilers is waaaaaay off base however. Montreal's bottom six is MUCH better, and everyone in Habsland should get on their knees and pray to whatever God Trevor Timmons prays to for landing him Carey Price...Price carries the team, period. Plekanec and Desharnais will also never be champions. Playoffs are a different story and Plecs disappears EVERY year in April..he is just sooooo soft, and David Desharnais is not an NHL caliber player. He would not crack the lineup of most teams in the NHL. (maybe if there was a province that had a pathetic language issue...say Russian...and his name was Paulinov..he would make THAT team! lol)

Markov is not the player people think he is ether, in fact Markov's defense partner should be in the running for MVP each year also. Markov is perhaps the biggest defensive liability on the team, especially the last year.

So, the Oilers need some changes no doubt, but that will put them over the top, from a mediocre team with promise to an elite team. Montreal will always be a team that finishes 6th to 10th and not rock the boat so the most fickle fans in the league can be appeased. It is 80% Carey Price in Montreal, and the soft forwards disappear every April. I like to follow the Habs as my sort of #2 team, but the fan base won't allow them to rebuild and they have a mess to unwind. Taxes, language issues, and fickle fans prevent serious free agents coming here, and they won't have more top 5 picks. (I'd trade ANY Oiler for Galchenyuk other than maybe Eberle and Schultz)

TAlso, Montreal is another example of a team that DESPERATELY needs that big rugged two way center...he just does not exist and is not available.
- JLO961

oh my god
- TheNugeIsHuge

gunna have to explain urself... ??

one of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen. Talk about homerism. Look Gally's great, but I wouldn't take him over any of RNH, Hall, Eberle, or Yak. Their potentials are far greater then Gally's.
- TheNugeIsHuge

I'm not sure if the MTL people are as close to the EDM Oilers as I am, and I'm not so sure all of the OIL fans on this thread go to every game as I do. (every MTL game)

Galchenyuk is the real deal. AT THE MOMENT, he's more of an asset than Yakupov, but quite a wide margin actually. They are in very different situations however. Galchenyuk plays with seasoned vets, he gets benched if he screws up, he is THE rookie focus on the team, he's the "only child" if you will. Yakupov has soooo much more top end potential and is a much better RAW talent, but man, he is terrible defensively, just terrible. It makes me wonder if the Oilers do in fact have too many rookies, all just flying around and not being accountable.

Go take a shift with Markov, Gorges, Gionta, Prust, Moen, etc. and be the only rookie on the ice with 20,000 impatient unrealistic fans watching your every move. Then go take a shift with overly patient Oilers fans watching 6, 7, 8, 9, kids flying around dipseydoodling and trying to be hotshots. "meh, he lost the puck and broke up the play but it looked cool...oh damn, another goal against" "we'll be pretty good later on when he matures".

VERY different situations in my opinion. tough to compare these guys, they're both studs.

outher then ebs... how do we know any of the oiler players can bring it come playoffs?
and yeah they may rely on price alot.. but thats the way the team is built.. don;t fault them because they have a different make-up then the oilers and are successful for now.
- derm10

do we know if Gally can bring it come playoffs?
- TheNugeIsHuge

never said he could
- derm10

did he ever say oilers could bring it? But it made sense for you to ask???

outher then ebs... how do we know any of the oiler players can bring it come playoffs?
and yeah they may rely on price alot.. but thats the way the team is built.. don;t fault them because they have a different make-up then the oilers and are successful for now.
- derm10

I'm not faulting "them" I'm faulting you for spouting nonsense. lol

I'm not sure if the MTL people are as close to the EDM Oilers as I am, and I'm not so sure all of the OIL fans on this thread go to every game as I do. (every MTL game)

Galchenyuk is the real deal. AT THE MOMENT, he's more of an asset than Yakupov, but quite a wide margin actually. They are in very different situations however. Galchenyuk plays with seasoned vets, he gets benched if he screws up, he is THE rookie focus on the team, he's the "only child" if you will. Yakupov has soooo much more top end potential and is a much better RAW talent, but man, he is terrible defensively, just terrible. It makes me wonder if the Oilers do in fact have too many rookies, all just flying around and not being accountable.

Go take a shift with Markov, Gorges, Gionta, Prust, Moen, etc. and be the only rookie on the ice with 20,000 impatient unrealistic fans watching your every move. Then go take a shift with overly patient Oilers fans watching 6, 7, 8, 9, kids flying around dipseydoodling and trying to be hotshots. "meh, he lost the puck and broke up the play but it looked cool...oh damn, another goal against" "we'll be pretty good later on when he matures".

VERY different situations in my opinion. tough to compare these guys, they're both studs.
- JLO961

great points... i totally agree with what ur saying... but i beleive oilers are father away then they believe... if the continue letting the rooks run the show and have no accountability.