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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:38 PM ET
gagner cogliano? they got ice time why?
- derm10

They got the majority of their ice time after a string of injuries that saw us playing ECHLers.

Is Philly in rebuild mode for playing Couturier and Schenn?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:38 PM ET
most people would call that rebuilding.... bad team... giving younger players ice time.
- derm10



uve disregarded the multiple deals they made or attempted to to improve immediately and focused on 1 deal where the guy wanted out and they got a younger guy.

REBUILD



im starting to get worried ur not just a troll. maybe ur actually this clueless...
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:38 PM ET
Yes. Souray at the time was an all-star dman and he actually agreed to sign with the oil as a UFA. That is trying to make the team better now. Thank you for proving the point that the Oil were not rebuilding back then. Your one and only example is pronger and it is irrelevant because the teams hand was forced. They in no way wanted to trade him.
- ruttager17

just to get it straight.. how do u know when a rebuild starts?
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:38 PM ET
yeah the package was centered around lupul... but how old was he?
- derm10

He would have been 23 at the start of the 2006-2007 season. So 23 means full rebuild. Awesome, that means, by your logic that the Flames offer sheet to ROR on thursday, who is 22 means that they are in rebuild mode. Thanks for clarification of what the age of the player means in regards to the rebuild.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Mar 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
but the threat is there.... no one is intimidated but the oilers lineup.
- derm10


It's not about fighting, it's about toughness in general. Take a faceoff against Joe Thornton in the playoffs...he'll break your arm and then get booted from the dot. Next shift...you're in the room and he's doing it to someone else. THAT"S playoff hockey.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
They got the majority of their ice time after a string of injuries that saw us playing ECHLers.

Is Philly in rebuild mode for playing Couturier and Schenn?

- Morris

are u comparing gags and cogs playing as rookies to couturier and schenn playing this year?
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
but the threat is there.... no one is intimidated but the oilers lineup.
- derm10


BBC and Fistric would disagree
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:40 PM ET
It's not about fighting, it's about toughness in general. Take a faceoff against Joe Thornton in the playoffs...he'll break your arm and then get booted from the dot. Next shift...you're in the room and he's doing it to someone else. THAT"S playoff hockey.
- JLO961

exactly.. the oilers don;t have a player to take that role.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:40 PM ET
just to get it straight.. how do u know when a rebuild starts?
- derm10

Why don't you tell us, since you are the one trolling here. You think it started in 06. So now provide facts, logic, and objectivity as to what you think signals a rebuild and they will be written out, so when all of us use facts and logic to refute it, do not go back peddling as you have been doing all day.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:41 PM ET
BBC and Fistric would disagree
- Reveen

i'm talking a leader in ur lineup... that plays big minutes.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
no but he is judging montreal talent on how they play in the playoffs... would it not be fair to judge the oilers under the same criteria.... therefor.. other the ebs has any of the oilers shown that they can bring it in games that count.
- derm10


Hmmm...you mean like Hall leading his team to 2 Memorial cups?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
just to get it straight.. how do u know when a rebuild starts?
- derm10

when they say theyre gonna tear it down and rebuild is usually good indicator.

when they stop acquiring players at the TD (pre 2010) and start selling them instead. (2010)
when they stop attempting to sign every star free agent they can in the offseason and start just filling 4th line roster holes for and trading vets for draft picks. when they stop trying to trade young guys and picks for stars, but start to do the opposite.
when they throw out 18 year olds as their first line..

cmon
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
While calling him out for not watching the habs, can you honestly say you've watched a lot of oilers games this year? Note: I'm making no judgement about the you, or the habs, or claiming the oilers are perfect. Have you actually watched a lot of oilers games this year?
- Morris


this year ive watched a couple. but I was out west the last 4 years and out of my 31 years on this silly srock ive spent more time in ab than here in qc. btw I do love the oilers and genuenly want to see them succeed. up to this year I watched the oil as much as the habs flame van as well. I'm a hockey fan first to be honest. habs just are my team
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
Why don't you tell us, since you are the one trolling here. You think it started in 06. So now provide facts, logic, and objectivity as to what you think signals a rebuild and they will be written out, so when all of us use facts and logic to refute it, do not go back peddling as you have been doing all day.
- ruttager17

i wasn;t the one that brought up 06 in the first place.. i just went with it... in all honesty i don;t think they were in a rebuild in 07 but i certainly don;t think they are only in year 2 or 3 of the rebuild
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
when they say theyre gonna tear it down and rebuild is usually good indicator.

when they stop acquiring players at the TD (pre 2010) and start selling them instead. (2010)
when they stop attempting to sign every star free agent they can in the offseason and start just filling 4th line roster holes for and trading vets for draft picks. when they stop trying to trade young guys and picks for stars, but start to do the opposite.
when they throw out 18 year olds as their first line..

cmon

- hugefemale dog77

but teams rebuild without doing those things
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:44 PM ET


uve disregarded the multiple deals they made or attempted to to improve immediately and focused on 1 deal where the guy wanted out and they got a younger guy.

REBUILD



im starting to get worried ur not just a troll. maybe ur actually this clueless...

- hugefemale dog77

Its ok, my good buddy and longtime internet stalker/#1 fan rdfred will tell you that special people like this, are still people too, and deserve every bit as much respect as we give everyone else. Actually I have a lot more respect and admiration for Corky Thatcher (Chris Burke) than this guy
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:45 PM ET
i wasn;t the one that brought up 06 in the first place.. i just went with it... in all honesty i don;t think they were in a rebuild in 07 but i certainly don;t think they are only in year 2 or 3 of the rebuild
- derm10

well then ud be wrong. it's really just that simple

it's year 3.
muhammed
Location: The man, the myth, the legend
Joined: 11.09.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:46 PM ET
Greetings, praise be Allah.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:46 PM ET
i wasn;t the one that brought up 06 in the first place.. i just went with it... in all honesty i don;t think they were in a rebuild in 07 but i certainly don;t think they are only in year 2 or 3 of the rebuild
- derm10

Don't tip toe around and avoid the question. Honestly tell me what you think signals the start of a rebuild? I would love to hear your honest opinion of this.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
but teams rebuild without doing those things
- derm10

some if not all of those i suppose.

but this in no way changes what it was for the oilers.
whether u fail to understand or not
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
when they say theyre gonna tear it down and rebuild is usually good indicator.

when they stop acquiring players at the TD (pre 2010) and start selling them instead. (2010)
when they stop attempting to sign every star free agent they can in the offseason and start just filling 4th line roster holes for and trading vets for draft picks. when they stop trying to trade young guys and picks for stars, but start to do the opposite.
when they throw out 18 year olds as their first line..

cmon

- hugefemale dog77

Hey, hey, that is too much logic and objectivity here. Save that sh!te for your papers for school, it has no place on the HB boards dealing with a troll.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
Greetings, praise be Allah.
- muhammed

allah is cool and all but I have chosen to put my faith in the Papua New Guinean mud god, Pikkiwoki. He is promising a pig and as many coconuts as you can carry when you die. Allah promises a bunch of virgins in heaven if you successfully carry out a suicide bombing, but it is not clarified that these are actually women virgins. seems like a ripoff to me.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
Hey, hey, that is too much logic and objectivity here. Save that sh!te for your papers for school, it has no place on the HB boards dealing with a troll.
- ruttager17

how impressed with himself for keeping this nonsense going is what gives me a chuckle. i think he may have us mistaken for people who dont see right through him..

im bored on a rainy afternoon so im down to do some edumacation. whether it be in gest or not. he can keep them comin if he likes.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
just to get it straight.. how do u know when a rebuild starts?
- derm10

A good indication might be a firesale at the trade deadline and thereafter. In 2009-2010, We traded Visnovsky and Staios for Whitney and a pending UFA and draft picks. We ditched Pisani, Potulny, Pouliot, Comrie, Nilsson, O'Sullivan and Moreau from our roster. We traded Riley Nash for a pick. By 2010, MacGregor had a strong roster of his scouts in as opposed to the old guard. The next season we continued by Trading Penner for picks and prospects. When you compare that to 06-09 it's pretty glaring.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
Don't tip toe around and avoid the question. Honestly tell me what you think signals the start of a rebuild? I would love to hear your honest opinion of this.
- ruttager17

well then... there is rebuilding and then full blow break the team down and rebuild...
sure when a team sucks and get the top draft pick the gm has nothin to say but yeah we are rebuilding.. but that doesn;t mean the gm hadn;t been making moves in previous years to build a better core for the future. hell if ur team doesn;t make the playoffs 2 years in a row ur rebuilding.. be it on the fly or total tear down and rebuild....clear??
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