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Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
the rebuild only started two years ago???? any yes ebs was 22nd overall... in the first round.... i mean past the first round.... what players to u have in ur lineup drafted after the first round?
- derm10


Anton Lander
Chris Vande Velde
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
Shawn Horcoff

Jeff Petry

- Reveen

those are keepers.. ahahah
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
the rebuild only started two years ago???? any yes ebs was 22nd overall... in the first round.... i mean past the first round.... what players to u have in ur lineup drafted after the first round?
- derm10

yes.
the TD of 2010 was a total teardown and rebuild strategy.

its not my fault if ur ignorant of this FACT

petry and hartakainen atm

klefbom, gernat, musil and marincin all very solid picks.
theyre just kids tho. ebs, hall, kane etc are the exceptions..not the rule.

why dont u have a look at the hawks roster and show me how many guys they have playing that they drafted late. or any team since 2010 actually.
cause this is the time frame we can compare of course. u cant just use arguments that are convienent for ur point of course..
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 3:54 PM ET
thats fine with if.. but don;t say the oilers are a year away from competeing then..... witha 6.5 yr rebuild and only being on ur 2nd year u have 4.5 years to go. i have no arguements there
- derm10

good point

this was an ender ender to any debates with you.

too bad u couldnt come up with anything concrete and intelligent to keep it going. not surprised of course

troll away
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:55 PM ET
Shawn Horcoff

Jeff Petry

- Reveen

I gotta think that lander, jones, potter, n. schultz, fistric, petrell were not first round pics. Too lazy to look them all up.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 3:55 PM ET
thats fine with if.. but don;t say the oilers are a year away from competeing then..... witha 6.5 yr rebuild and only being on ur 2nd year u have 4.5 years to go. i have no arguements there
- derm10

Is that what's got you so worked up? Something you probably heard Cloutier say and then thought it was the gospel truth for all Oilers fans? That's not a commonly held belief.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
good point

this was an ender ender to any debates with you.

too bad u couldnt come up with anything concrete and intelligent to keep it going. not surprised of course

troll away

- hugefemale dog77

Hey we all know it is fact that the oil have been on the rebuild since the moment after Carolina won the cup in 2006, anyone with half a brain knows that.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
did the hawks and pens draft small skilled forwards with all there picks?
- derm10



kanes not big. toews aint a giant. hall aint small.

did the pens have an option to pass on crosby for another player??

wow. good point
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
Nail Yakupov EDM R 20 6 6 12 -9
Alex GalchenyukMTL C 20 3 9 12 +7
similar point but better plus minus...

- derm10


Plus-minus is the most useless stat in the world!!

Doughty is a -6 with 8 points. Justin Schultz is a -4 with 13 points. Is Schultz better?

Some of the people on this site are so (frank)ing dumb
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Mar 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Oilers in 12-Team Race for 3rd
- Maxbone


You may have jotted down that Smid resigning a little hastily, Rich.

No way Smid is worth 4 mil per season - yes a warrior, but 2nd pairing shut down guys dont make that. At least, ideally, we don't want them too when considering the other 5/6 million players needed.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
yes.
the TD of 2010 was a total teardown and rebuild strategy.

its not my fault if ur ignorant of this FACT

petry and hartakainen atm

klefbom, gernat, musil and marincin all very solid picks.
theyre just kids tho. ebs, hall, kane etc are the exceptions..not the rule.

why dont u have a look at the hawks roster and show me how many guys they have playing that they drafted late. or any team since 2010 actually.
cause this is the time frame we can compare of course. u cant just use arguments that are convienent for ur point of course..

- hugefemale dog77

chicago.....bickell, david bolland, marcus kruger, brandon saad ,adrew shaw,hjalmarsson, keithand cory crawford... all drafted by chicago after the first round.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 3:59 PM ET
Either drafted by Edmonton beyond the first round or acquired (because trades are god incarnate)

Belanger
Eager
Fistric
Hartikainen
Petrell
Jones
Khabibulin
Lander
Peckham
Petry
Potter
Schultz
Schultz
Smid
Sutton
VandeVelde
Whitney
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Mar 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
nail only has 2 even strength goals ... maybe he struggles even strength.
- derm10


he plays with Ryan Smyth and Eric Belanger at even strength. My god. Check the line combinations or watch an oilers game before you make ignorant, uneducated comments!!
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
And as for a #1 D man. Markov plays the most minutes in MON, and he's brutal.
- TheNugeIsHuge


the oilers would love to hace markov... il afmit hes been a bit of a funk but to say hes brutal is a bit of an overstatment. the guy has better vision that probably 99% of the oiler team. he is a huge asset to anyteam. kaberle is evevnt that brutal.

regarding habs fans "suddenly knowing how to build a dynasty" is silly. both the habs and oilers teams have had dynasties, and would like to think for the most part they have an educated fan base. coming from a habs fan ive always known they had the right pieces just not the right direction. this year the team is showing it. for the most part is vindication. the oilers will get thrre too and I will say it again If the oilers had our coaching staff and managment they would probably be in better shape than they are now. our upper manaent and coaching staff is that good.

the oiler bottom 6 is terrible and its not completely illogical to think thst letting go of one or 2 of thecoveted 6 to bring in a great goalie and some help on d is a good idea. plus I think krueger is a mistake, if boucher is let go in tampa edm would be fu ck ing stupid to not hire him.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 4:00 PM ET


kanes not big. toews aint a giant. hall aint small.

did the pens have an option to pass on crosby for another player??

wow. good point

- hugefemale dog77

toews 6'2" 208
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
Hey we all know it is fact that the oil have been on the rebuild since the moment after Carolina won the cup in 2006, anyone with half a brain knows that.
- ruttager17


i was just dissapointed cause i thought maybe he had something intelligent and relevant to say.

at first he seemed like he might. even with tired and boring " u shoulda picked this guy instead" argument like the haters love to do. galchenyuk is a helluva player, so i triued to give him the benefit of the doubt.

but as the posts went on and he got torn apart, the lame troll posts became apparent.

too bad
longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Mar 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
who is the last oiler to win rookie of the year honours?
- derm10

You want to know something there has never been an Oiler that has won the R O Y.
That being said the Oilers have how many Hall of Famers since 1979?
Being a R O Y does not grant you anything. Look up the list how many players won it and never did anything afterwards?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Mar 2 @ 4:03 PM ET
annoyance_101= another lottery pick?
- derm10


can't make that insult when you just had a lottery pick.

Guys, don't even bother. The day that Galchenyuk was drafted, habs fans say they got the best player in the draft. He'd played 2 games that season and no habs fan watched him, but he was the best. Why? Habs fans are stubborn and uneducated. #vivelaseparation #freequebec
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 4:03 PM ET
You want to know something there has never been an Oiler that has won the R O Y.
That being said the Oilers have how many Hall of Famers since 1979?
Being a R O Y does not grant you anything. Look up the list how many players won it and never did anything afterwards?

- longbottom

thats surprising concidering the top young talent the oilers have had over the years.... was gretz never a rookie?
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 4:04 PM ET
can't make that insult when you just had a lottery pick.

Guys, don't even bother. The day that Galchenyuk was drafted, habs fans say they got the best player in the draft. He'd played 2 games that season and no habs fan watched him, but he was the best. Why? Habs fans are stubborn and uneducated. #vivelaseparation #freequebec

- TheNugeIsHuge

i had a lottery pick? i don;t understand? i'm not even a habs fan.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Mar 2 @ 4:05 PM ET
the oilers would love to hace markov... il afmit hes been a bit of a funk but to say hes brutal is a bit of an overstatment. the guy has better vision that probably 99% of the oiler team. he is a huge asset to anyteam. kaberle is evevnt that brutal.

regarding habs fans "suddenly knowing how to build a dynasty" is silly. both the habs and oilers teams have had dynasties, and would like to think for the most part they have an educated fan base. coming from a habs fan ive always known they had the right pieces just not the right direction. this year the team is showing it. for the most part is vindication. the oilers will get thrre too and I will say it again If the oilers had our coaching staff and managment they would probably be in better shape than they are now. our upper manaent and coaching staff is that good.

the oiler bottom 6 is terrible and its not completely illogical to think thst letting go of one or 2 of thecoveted 6 to bring in a great goalie and some help on d is a good idea. plus I think krueger is a mistake, if boucher is let go in tampa edm would be fu ck ing stupid to not hire him.

- munky123


Markov was great in his prime, and so was Ryan Whitney. After several season-ending surgeries, both have lost most lateral movement ability and are now both pylons. Markov gets his points by standing still at the blueline. I would really not want that on my team for 5.75M as I wouldn't want Ryan Whitney losing all speed-related puck battles at 4M
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 2 @ 4:05 PM ET
Hey we all know it is fact that the oil have been on the rebuild since the moment after Carolina won the cup in 2006, anyone with half a brain knows that.
- ruttager17

well someone need to share this witht he rest of the fanbase.... they think the rebuild just started 2-3 years ago.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 4:06 PM ET


kanes not big. toews aint a giant. hall aint small.

did the pens have an option to pass on crosby for another player??

wow. good point

- hugefemale dog77

Although I hate that whiny lil (frank)er Cindy Crosby, he is the best player in the world but why do people always call the oilers forwards small, then talk about crosby in comparison when he is only 5'11" 200lbs, not exactly a giant compared to the oilers small draft pics, kane- 5'11" 181lbs, Toews-6'2" 208lbs. is it so hard to check stats or facts before saying all the oilers forwards are small little midgets when compared to the leagues top elite talent?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Mar 2 @ 4:06 PM ET
i had a lottery pick? i don;t understand? i'm not even a habs fan.
- derm10


yea and I'm not an oilers fan. I just troll random blogs defending the oilers for fun
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 2 @ 4:07 PM ET
i was just dissapointed cause i thought maybe he had something intelligent and relevant to say.

at first he seemed like he might. even with tired and boring " u shoulda picked this guy instead" argument like the haters love to do. galchenyuk is a helluva player, so i triued to give him the benefit of the doubt.

but as the posts went on and he got torn apart, the lame troll posts became apparent.

too bad

- hugefemale dog77

I know, sometimes it is tough being an oilers fan and trying to use facts and objective arguments with trolls.
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