One team would be silent in Sweden enjoying retirement, the other would be making up facts and stats about how (frank)ing sick the Sens are. - AdamFrench
Orr would beat the hell out of Gretzky and there would be nothing he could to do stop it because he would only have another Gretzky to defend him and not a goon riding shotgun. Not to mention the whole playing defense part. - Two_For_Truth
Then he'd take a penalty.
Good luck shutting down a Gretzky-Gretzky-Gretzky-Gretzky-Gretzky 1st PP unit.
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If you had 2 Orrs, Gretzky would be beaten into submission.
Five, the beating would just get worse. And nobody to protect him.
How many Selke's did he win?
Considering he scored over 2000 points, being +518 isn't an example of exceptional defense. It's an example of scoring one more than anybody else. Gretzky would be on the ice for a lot of goals against but he would simply score one more than the other guys could. Essentially, the master of winning a game 6-5 which is exactly what the Oilers dynasty did. - Two_For_Truth
Isn't this the exact purpose of defense in the context of hockey? To help you score more goals than your competitor?
In any case, you've once again made the discussion officially not fun. Congrats.
I simply don't have the time or the Asbergers to break each of your points down line by line and argue them in a purely hypothetical, irrevelant, nonsensical discussion.
Isn't this the exact purpose of defense in the context of hockey? To help you score more goals than your competitor?
In any case, you've once again made the discussion officially not fun. Congrats.
I simply don't have the time or the Asbergers to break each of your points down line by line and argue them in a purely hypothetical, irrevelant, nonsensical discussion. - Leeman4Gilmour
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Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
Isn't this the exact purpose of defense in the context of hockey? To help you score more goals than your competitor? - Leeman4Gilmour
How many Selke awards did Gretzky win? You said he was exceptional defensively and yet he never won a single award dedicated to exceptional defensive play.
You can't say playing great offense is amazing defense. Defense is the act of defending, not excelling at offense. It's about what Gretzky can do when he doesn't have the puck that determines whether or not he's an exceptional defender to which he wasn't. You can say he was so exceptional offensively that he didn't really need to play defense but that doesn't mean he was an exceptional defender. Bob Gainey was an exceptional defender. Guy Carbonneau was an exceptional defender.
How many Selke's did Gretzky win? You said he was exceptional defensively and yet he never won a single award dedicated to exception defensive play.
You can't say playing great offense is amazing defense. Defense is the act of defending, not excelling at offense. It's about what Gretzky can do when he doesn't have the puck that determines whether or not he's an exceptional defender to which he wasn't. You can say he was so exceptional offensively that he didn't really need to play defense but that doesn't mean he was an exceptional defender. Bob Gainey was an exceptional defender. Guy Carbonneau was an exceptional defender. - Two_For_Truth
How many Selke's did Gretzky win? You said he was exceptional defensively and yet he never won a single award dedicated to exception defensive play.
You can't say playing great offense is amazing defense. Defense is the act of defending, not excelling at offense. It's about what Gretzky can do when he doesn't have the puck that determines whether or not he's an exceptional defender to which he wasn't. You can say he was so exceptional offensively that he didn't really need to play defense but that doesn't mean he was an exceptional defender. Bob Gainey was an exceptional defender. Guy Carbonneau was an exceptional defender. - Two_For_Truth
Also, when Gretzky didnt have the puck, he went to where the puck was going to be instead of chasing it around like an idiot.