I don't know, weren't Bonds/Sosa/McGuire hitting a 65 to 75 HR's when they were on roids, and now the HR king tops out in the high 40's ?
- MadCap2008

Arod didnt hit 65-75bombs. Tons of guys in Baseball were roiding. You didnt see a huge increase in homeruns in general. So 3 guys over a span hit some good numbers. They didnt do it all the time. Was cheechoo roiding when he hit 50goals then scaled off. Or was it just a good season?

one four letter word for his declined play....everyone knows it no one is willing to say it....


PEDs

I can't stand to hear Milbury run his mouth. Thank God I could listen to Locker on CSN and turn Mouthbury off!

"It's True...It's True" ~Kurt Angle

Making Ovechkin the captain of that team was the worst mistake the Capitals ever made. Getting rid of Ovechkin would be the best decision they ever made.
- Killian

Yes, because if Brooks Laich had been named Captain the Caps would have won the last 3 Stanley Cups The Captain thing is overrated - look at Crosby, he Captained that meltdown against the Flyers last Spring - do you blame him ?

Arod didnt hit 65-75bombs. Tons of guys in Baseball were roiding. You didnt see a huge increase in homeruns in general. So 3 guys over a span hit some good numbers. They didnt do it all the time. Was cheechoo roiding when he hit 50goals then scaled off. Or was it just a good season?
- poisondhearts37

Brady Anderson begs to differ.

He's one dimensional he sits in the high slot for one timers but unlike Stamkos he doesn't move around he just stands there.

Teams have figured out his out side inside move so he is no longer dangerous on the rush. He's more of a turn over machine.

AO is a good player 30 goal guy but he is no longer a super star in the league.

Yes, because if Brooks Laich had been named Captain the Caps would have won the last 3 Stanley Cups The Captain thing is overrated - look at Crosby, he Captained that meltdown against the Flyers last Spring - do you blame him ?
- MadCap2008

Ha really? Thats your argument? HAHA wow, Ovie is that you?

Arod didnt hit 65-75bombs. Tons of guys in Baseball were roiding. You didnt see a huge increase in homeruns in general. So 3 guys over a span hit some good numbers. They didnt do it all the time. Was cheechoo roiding when he hit 50goals then scaled off. Or was it just a good season?
- poisondhearts37

Ha really? Thats your argument? HAHA wow, Ovie is that you?
- nbartley9

Yeah, my argument is that those Caps teams were going to have the same results whether or not Ovechkin was Captain - you disagree ?

When do you think he'll be traded to the Oilers?! D!ck Clouts has it on good authority that Edmonton is moving on him! Talk about an amazing insider! Yeeehaa!
- MnGump

if on good authority you mean him saying straight up this is just me making things up and it has ZERO chance of happening then yea

On a better note. Dipietro wants to commit suicide. Thats a plus for the Isles yeah?
- poisondhearts37

.......wow that was uncalled for

edit: saying that it's a good thing if he commits suicide

Yeah, my argument is that those Caps teams were going to have the same results whether or not Ovechkin was Captain - you disagree ?
- MadCap2008

I really dont know, that "C" means alot more than you think it does.

He's going to Edmonton... Ask Cloutier... problem solved.

I hate Milbury he is worthless, bash who ever you want; that guy is a douche.

I really dont know, that "C" means alot more than you think it does.
- nbartley9

Really ? So I've seen on the Pens board more than a few Pens fans (you might be one of them) suggesting that the Pens need a veteran leader like Guerin to guide them. Does this mean that Crosby isn't a good Captain, or does it simply mean that some teams (Caps and Pens, for example) simply hand the Captaincy to their superstars and the real leaders are often found in the supporting cast ?

Mike Milbury is an arrogant d-bag that is in no way good for Hockey. He was a horrible GM, and a coward for trying to fight a 12 year old. He has no right to call ANYONE out on not being a 'man" especially a player that got more points in his first season then Milbury got in his entire playing career. To top it off you can tell everyone else at NBC sports network despises him, he's horrible at his current job. Sorry end rant. He just upsets me.

one four letter word for his declined play....everyone knows it no one is willing to say it....


PEDs
- Philly1980

I don't discount the PED angle, you simply can't in any of these sports anymore - the thing that I can't reconcile is this : if his play has spiraled downward because he is no longer doping, why wouldn't he start again ? Could it simply be, as more than a few had suggested when Ovechkin first came into the league, that his physical, run through the walls style of play didn't lend itself to a long, productive career ?

All of which is false. Man people and this roid crap is redic. If athletes wanna ruin theyre bodies with roids thats fine by me. But roid do not make them better athletes in any form.
- poisondhearts37

Taking roids doesn't ruin people's bodies when done in moderation. It's the juice monkeys shooting up gallons of the stuff, and different kinds that give roids the bad name.

Taking roids doesn't ruin people's bodies when done in moderation. It's the juice monkeys shooting up gallons of the stuff, and different kinds that give roids the bad name.
- Surrender Monkey

oh. so some are legal without a doctor's prescription?

A change is needed, but it will never happen unless he requests a trade.

not all steroids are designed to give "bigger muscles"
- RealityChecker

"Correct"

Sincerely,

Lance Armstrong

oh. so some are legal without a doctor's prescription?
- Fountain-San

Just because they're illegal doesn't mean they are harmful. Cigarettes are legal, does that mean they're harmless?

Ovie is off the roids, end of story. It is so insanly obvious that i cant even stand the conversation anymore.
- nbartley9

saw this coming. typical pittsburgh troll. add some substance to this discussion next time.

Just because they're illegal doesn't mean they are harmful. Cigarettes are legal, does that mean they're harmless?
- Surrender Monkey

Have at it if you don't mind your head growing and your balls shrinking.

Just because they're illegal doesn't mean they are harmful. Cigarettes are legal, does that mean they're harmless?
- Surrender Monkey

you're right. i don't want to give steroids a bad name.

there's a wee bit of a difference between tobacco smoking and using steroids.