Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

BTW, if COL didn't match and CGY got ROR, CGY would've been obligated to put him on waivers. No provision for paying him not to play.


Okay, the Pope just tweeted this.
- faceto27

I think Calgary would have been forced to bite the bullet and sit him for the remainder of the season and bring him back next year.

In that case, he provides no benefit to Calgary and that pick looks better and better...

I don't think enough credit has been given for our organizational depth this year. A lot of luck but still, Lups and Gardiner were arguably some of our best last year. And Frattin was tearing it up as well. Good on Burke, I miss that guy.

I think Calgary would have been forced to bite the bullet and sit him for the remainder of the season and bring him back next year.

In that case, he provides no benefit to Calgary and that pick looks better and better...
- Leeman4Gilmour

Not sure if I understand it fully. But, I think BobMac is saying you can't pay him not to play.

I think Calgary would have been forced to bite the bullet and sit him for the remainder of the season and bring him back next year.

In that case, he provides no benefit to Calgary and that pick looks better and better...
- Leeman4Gilmour

any way you slice it, this is an embarrassment of epic proportions.
that pick is top 5-9 in a ridiculous draft....unreal.

switch JVR and Lupul, we need to get Kessel firing again.
- Barx

Kadri or JVR have been the best players most nights this year, I would like to make the switch for that reason too.

He was under contract
- AdamFrench

That clause only applies to new CBA:
@TSNBobMcKenzie: In old CBA, 13:23 specified any player who plays in Europe after start of NHL reg season needs waivers playing in same season in NHL.

NHL just ignored their rule for Radulov - pissed off a number of GM's.

That clause only applies to new CBA:
@TSNBobMcKenzie: In old CBA, 13:23 specified any player who plays in Europe after start of NHL reg season needs waivers playing in same season in NHL.

NHL just ignored their rule for Radulov - pissed off a number of GM's.
- Eliminason

Radulov was on the last year of his entry level deal when he left, he still had to serve that one year, so when he returned he didn't sign a new deal, he just took up on his entry last year of the deal.

any way you slice it, this is an embarrassment of epic proportions.
that pick is top 5-9 in a ridiculous draft....unreal.
- Barx

Maybe Feaster was doing Sherman a favor.

silly old wives tale that the Leafs were gonna trade Boyes, Kaberle, Antropov for Lecavalier but the deal stalled due to a fax machine not working properly.
When they went to consumate the trade a second time the Tampa owner refused to allow it.....
apparently it must have been the same fax machine the Flyers used in the NYR trade.
- Barx

looked up the hoglund fax botch...kyle wanvig

Not true. Doesn't have to do with offer sheeting an RFa or signing a UFa, has to do with whether that player had been signed to a contract and played in another league that season, so you can't hide players in Europe and bring them in later in the year (Don't ask me about Radulov, still don't get how that was allowed). RFA or UFA who aren't playing in another league and under another contract don't have to pass through waivers.
- Eliminason

Didn't Radulov leave mid-contract? Also, did it matter that it was he that left the Preds, rather than them sending him to Russia?

I think the NHL/NHLPA looked the other way on this issue because it was the actions of one player and his agent, rather than any scheme by the team to manage their cap.

Not sure if I understand it fully. But, I think BobMac is saying you can't pay him not to play.
- dragus84

Ha! What a mess.

That being said, it's funny how these media bozos trip over themselves to report this story when nobody knew about it until the first guy suggested it.

Then all the hounds get a sniff of the story and it becomes a circus.

Maybe Feaster was doing Sherman a favor.
- MapleLeafsFTW

by completely screwing up the Av's salary structure for years to come?

Ha! What a mess.

That being said, it's funny how these media bozos trip over themselves to report this story when nobody knew about it until the first guy suggested it.

Then all the hounds get a sniff of the story and it becomes a circus.
- Leeman4Gilmour

feaster and the flames are putting on the clown show

I typed his name into youtube, nothing exciting came up....tried kadri, will be back in two days.
- mykokes

Oh... you're that kind of guy huh?

You should talk with Quebec Pride.

Radulov was on the last year of his entry level deal when he left, he still had to serve that one year, so when he returned he didn't sign a new deal, he just took up on his entry last year of the deal.
- AdamFrench

It seems like they would have been hit with the full cap hit, too.

looked up the hoglund fax botch...kyle wanvig
- JIMI-JAMES

there ya go....the infamous fax machine.

Radulov was on the last year of his entry level deal when he left, he still had to serve that one year, so when he returned he didn't sign a new deal, he just took up on his entry last year of the deal.
- AdamFrench

From 2005 CBA:
13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.

Nothing about signing a new contract, and Radulov sure as hell wasn't 'on loan'

by completely screwing up the Av's salary structure for years to come?
- Barx

Didn't Oreilly want 5 at 5? 2 at 10 sounds better to me. They'll move him or Stats when it becomes a problem.

Didn't Radulov leave mid-contract? Also, did it matter that it was he that left the Preds, rather than them sending him to Russia?

I think the NHL/NHLPA looked the other way on this issue because it was the actions of one player and his agent, rather than any scheme by the team to manage their cap.
- p_zub

Definitely a case of looking the other way, probably how the ROR thing would have played itself out as well.

Haven't seen you in while in a leaf thread.

Edit:
The quote looks to have been removed.

Ah well....off to a meeting.
- Fakepartofme

AA Meeting?

Didn't Oreilly want 5 at 5? 2 at 10 sounds better to me. They'll move him or Stats when it becomes a problem.
- MapleLeafsFTW

it's already a problem for next season.

it's already a problem for next season.
- Barx

maybe its all part of the avs big plan to steal bozak and gunnar from us in exchange for dumping statsny or duchene off

Oh... you're that kind of guy huh?

You should talk with Quebec Pride.
- Scabeh

Louis Leblanc right, yeah, already been accused of such. Still, i haven't seen a Leaf do what this kid does with the puck for a very long time.....Mogilny maybe....you can call it homerism if you want....

Unless you're inferring I have a hard on for the kid, go back a bunch of pages, I most certainly do.

Definitely a case of looking the other way, probably how the ROR thing would have played itself out as well.
- Eliminason

Well, in Radulov's case, how can you punish Nashville? They suspended him indefinitely, with no grievance filed by Radulov or the PA. They can't stop Radulov from signing a contract with a league that was already going rogue with star players from Russia. Other leagues like the SEL and Liiga probably wouldn't have allowed him to play, but the KHL would never have said no to him.

Well, in Radulov's case, how can you punish Nashville? They suspended him indefinitely, with no grievance filed by Radulov or the PA. They can't stop Radulov from signing a contract with a league that was already going rogue with star players from Russia. Other leagues like the SEL and Liiga probably wouldn't have allowed him to play, but the KHL would never have said no to him.
- p_zub

Would have been punishing Radulov - Russian's being taken on waiver wire by the Islanders have a history of feeling punished.

In retrospect, would have been a good move for Nashville too!