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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
So you're suggesting?

JVR Bozak Kessel

Lupul Kadri Frattin

Komarov Grabovski Kulemin

McClement - 2 of Orr,Brown and McLaren winging that line.

That's the issue? Where does MacArthur fit?

Does Komarov move down to 4th line with McClement and say Orr. Cause Komarov hits and gets the job done.

Reunite MacArthur with the old line for steady 3rd line. Waive or trade Steckel and keep Brown and McLaren in the press box til somebody gets hurt?

- t_leafs21


Lines yes.

Somebody HAS to be traded - hopefully Mac. Maybe Kuli. Maybe Grabo. McClement could center shutdown line. 4th line center issue then I suppose, but can be solved.

Steckel somehow removed - trade or waivers.

Holzer likely sent down too because he's only guy who is waiver exempt, and has been struggling a bit. Even if he's only down until they work a trade for Liles/Gunnar or someone else gets hurt.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
Good find by Pecafanfan http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...anche_match_ryan_oreilly/

O'Reilly had the Avs not matched would have been put through waivers to play with the Flames What a bunch of morons, the Blue Jackets would be laughing all the way to the bank.

- AdamFrench


except one big thing

there are no recall waivers anymore

kind of puts a hitch in your theory
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
except one big thing

there are no recall waivers anymore

kind of puts a hitch in your theory

- Dozzer

The unsigned forward spent part of the NHL lockout playing with his brother, Cal, for Magnitogorsk in Russia. According to Metallurg coach Paul Maurice and KHL spokesman Shawn McBride, he appeared in games on Jan. 21 and Jan. 23 – both after the shortened NHL schedule was back underway – which meant that waivers were required before O’Reilly could return to the NHL as a free agent midway through the season.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
Good find by Pecafanfan http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...anche_match_ryan_oreilly/

O'Reilly had the Avs not matched would have been put through waivers to play with the Flames What a bunch of morons, the Blue Jackets would be laughing all the way to the bank.

- AdamFrench


I can see an appeal and win on that one though. Flames could apply same logic as a returning player the Avs could.

I get how the rule is written, but he intent of the rule isn't for situations with RFA's. There would have been a huge fight if he went to CBJ that likely results in an ammendment to that rule. I can see that happening now anyway (amendment)
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
That was dirty.
- robin_steele264


Didnt Fistric do the same thing in the game? Honest question.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
The unsigned forward spent part of the NHL lockout playing with his brother, Cal, for Magnitogorsk in Russia. According to Metallurg coach Paul Maurice and KHL spokesman Shawn McBride, he appeared in games on Jan. 21 and Jan. 23 – both after the shortened NHL schedule was back underway – which meant that waivers were required before O’Reilly could return to the NHL as a free agent midway through the season.
- Pecafan Fan


that makes zero sense.

he has to clear waivers because he was playing in another league?
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
Didnt Fistric do the same thing in the game? Honest question.
- markmark

No.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
that makes zero sense.

he has to clear waivers because he was playing in another league?

- Dozzer


Read the article......there's a reason.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
that makes zero sense.

he has to clear waivers because he was playing in another league?

- Dozzer


Geeze... read the article!!

More recently, Evgeni Nabokov, Kyle Wellwood and Marek Svatos have all signed with NHL teams upon returning to North America and then found themselves suiting up elsewhere after being immediately picked off the waiver wire.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
that makes zero sense.

he has to clear waivers because he was playing in another league?

- Dozzer


like Nabakov.

But ya, as RFA on contract dispute that doesn't make sense. Avs wouldn't have to clear him, so any new team shouldn't have to either.

sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
that makes zero sense.

he has to clear waivers because he was playing in another league?

- Dozzer

The Routsalainen Rule. Apparently Rexy bounced between NHL and Euro throughout the 80s and once joined the Oilers just in time to win a Cup. Ergo, this rule now exists to prevent that sort of thing from happening.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
No.
- sanfordnson


I saw the Benn play fully but I was at the bar so I only kind of half saw the Fistric thing.

Did he not come into a scrum and cross check Roussel from behind?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
Geeze... read the article!!

More recently, Evgeni Nabokov, Kyle Wellwood and Marek Svatos have all signed with NHL teams upon returning to North America and then found themselves suiting up elsewhere after being immediately picked off the waiver wire.

- Pecafan Fan


that rule is downright stupid.

it actually discourages teams from signing guys who arent playing in the NHL.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
Geeze... read the article!!

More recently, Evgeni Nabokov, Kyle Wellwood and Marek Svatos have all signed with NHL teams upon returning to North America and then found themselves suiting up elsewhere after being immediately picked off the waiver wire.

- Pecafan Fan

C'mon now, no need for that, Dozzer is only on his second coffee.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
The unsigned forward spent part of the NHL lockout playing with his brother, Cal, for Magnitogorsk in Russia. According to Metallurg coach Paul Maurice and KHL spokesman Shawn McBride, he appeared in games on Jan. 21 and Jan. 23 – both after the shortened NHL schedule was back underway – which meant that waivers were required before O’Reilly could return to the NHL as a free agent midway through the season.
- Pecafan Fan



Something isn't adding up in that story..

"The most interesting part of O’Reilly’s case is that the NHL didn’t believe he had played in Russia after the start of its season, according to a source. "


Even the League it's self didn't believe he played...


Wasn't ROR injured and released by KHL team before the lockout ended???
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
Something isn't adding up in that story..

"The most interesting part of O’Reilly’s case is that the NHL didn’t believe he had played in Russia after the start of its season, according to a source. "


Even the League it's self didn't believe he played...


Wasn't ROR injured and released by KHL team before the lockout ended???

- Fruitcakenipple

He played.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
that makes zero sense.

he has to clear waivers because he was playing in another league?

- Dozzer


Personally, I don't like the rule as a whole. If there's a UFA who played in another league, why should he have to clear waivers to play for a team he chose to go to, when a UFA who didn't play elsewhere wouldn't have to? Detroit really got (frank)ed over in the Nabokov situation.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
that rule is downright stupid.

it actually discourages teams from signing guys who arent playing in the NHL.

- Dozzer


I actually think it's stupid because it involves a RFA......unrestricted free agents sure, but I wonder if the fact he's RFA means the rule actually doesn't apply. But whatev, if its the case, then wow......
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
that rule is downright stupid.

it actually discourages teams from signing guys who arent playing in the NHL.

- Dozzer

Yah i don't buy it either.... JF isn't that dumb is he?

Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
Good find by Pecafanfan http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...anche_match_ryan_oreilly/

O'Reilly had the Avs not matched would have been put through waivers to play with the Flames What a bunch of morons, the Blue Jackets would be laughing all the way to the bank.

- AdamFrench


My understanding is that the Flames could have kept him out of the line-up this year and then brought him in next season.

Still horribly embarrassing to pay a 1st and a 3rd for one season of work, but marginally less embarrassing than having him go to Columbus.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
Yah i don't buy it either.... JF isn't that dumb is he?
- Leaffan8113


I'd like to see a statement from the NHL personally, now that this has blown up on sportsnet.
t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
Lines yes.

Somebody HAS to be traded - hopefully Mac. Maybe Kuli. Maybe Grabo. McClement could center shutdown line. 4th line center issue then I suppose, but can be solved.

Steckel somehow removed - trade or waivers.

Holzer likely sent down too because he's only guy who is waiver exempt, and has been struggling a bit. Even if he's only down until they work a trade for Liles/Gunnar or someone else gets hurt.

- Big_Lightnin



Holzer is looking steady though. Pretty fast too for a big guy, he compliments Phaneuf well, let's him be more offensive. I think Gunnarsson is on the block for sure. Gardiner isn't barking at the door, he's basically breaking it.

I've believed since the lockout that if the season started, MacArthur would be moved at the deadline. He's a useful player that's a pending UFA and not part of the long-term plan. It just comes down to when you move him, cause the deadline isn't for another month and sitting him in the pressbox doesn't help his value.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
that rule is downright stupid.

it actually discourages teams from signing guys who arent playing in the NHL.

- Dozzer

It's to prevent teams from hiding guys in Europe and signing them late in the season.

It's a good rule - just nobody envisioned it would work that way with offer sheets on hold-out RFAs.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Mar 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
It would have went down as the dumbest move alltime.



Give up a 1st and a 3rd for nothing.

- robin_steele264



Not so fast. That rule applies under the old CBA. Under the new CBA that rule does not apply to RFA's.

It would have been a court battle for the lawyers to fight out.
deerow84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GTA, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
It would have been so funny if the Flames got burned on that and he ended up in Columbus or something. Too bad it went the way it did
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