By taking dumb penalties at stupid times?

Is this really you, Uggie? Because the U_G I know would probably rake Phaneuf over the coals for that.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Of course he would. But he didn't do that, so he's gotta rip him for something else.

That's the funny part about this.

If Phaneuf beats the hell out of Prust, everybody rejoices and basks in the glory of manliness and toughness that Alphaneuf exudes.

But if he doesn't, he's smart because Prust is a nobody.
- Two_For_Truth

Hi ug.

I'd say its more a 50-50 split on whether fans like Dion. Pretty much the same split on McCabe right before he was run out of town.
- mykokes

Good offensive player, Just has to work on his Defensive positioning.

This is unbelievable. If Phaneuf fights Prust and beats his lights out, you would be the first one to yell and scream about how tough he is and what a great leader he is. But because he doesn't, he's suddenly a genius. Phaneuf can't lose! He's just that amazing.
- Two_For_Truth

If Phaneuf beats the piss out of Prust and gets ejected for taking an instigator (the only way Prust would have fought is if he were forced to), and we go on to lose because Mike Kostka is now the #1 on the team, I can't see how anyone would be thrilled with the outcome any more than we are now.

I would have been fine with him pumping the tar out of Prust, but let's be honest, the drop off in skill level after Phaneuf is huge.
We have enough meatheads in the line-up to deal with the Prusts of the world.
- Barx

If brown wasn't ejected it would have been a different game. Prust was a wrecking ball last night and no one did anything about it. If the leafs don't establish physical superiority then they lose. The meatheads aren't good enough to play big minutes so they didn't do much. Carlyle should have had Orr out there against prust more often.

So you plan is to have the guy who logs the most regular and PK ice time on the Leafs go off for 7 minutes, giving the Habs a powerplay in a one-goal game, in the hopes that it motivates Kessel, even though by your own admission it has almost no hope of actually working?

I only wish the NHL Doctor was here to give you life lessons.
- Atomic Wedgie

And your plan is to have Phaneuf continue playing like crap and the rest of the team playing flat, uninspired hockey. You automatically assume Phaneuf gets an instigator. You automatically assume nobody else on the team could get sparked except Kessel. You automatically assume that everything was just fine the way it was and that the game needed no swing in momentum.

It happened at least twice. Phaneuf went looking for the big hit that left him at center ice while the Habs were on the attack.
- Two_For_Truth

Wouldn't you agree that it is better to look for a big, legal hit than it is to go around fighting 4th line plugs?

This is unbelievable. If Phaneuf fights Prust and beats his lights out, you would be the first one to yell and scream about how tough he is and what a great leader he is. But because he doesn't, he's suddenly a genius. Phaneuf can't lose! He's just that amazing.
- Two_For_Truth

There are too many if's.

-WHAT IF Prust lays a beatdown on phaneuf? Just because you're big doesn't mean you can fight. Phaneuf has had his fair share of fisticuffs, but Prust is paid to fight and start poop.
-WHAT IF phaneuf breaks a knuckle / hand / whatever
-WHAT IF a powerplay arises in the next 5 minutes and dion is sitting on in the box ( I know he misses the net and what not, but as of late he has had some success)


I don't know if I should keep going, but honestly, theres nothing to gain from him fighting Prust. I think it's time you hit the showers there bud.

If Phaneuf beats the piss out of Prust and gets ejected for taking an instigator (the only way Prust would have fought is if he were forced to), and we go on to lose because Mike Kostka is now the #1 on the team, I can't see how anyone would be thrilled with the outcome any more than we are now.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Not only do you assume Prust refuses to fight Phaneuf but you also assume Phaneuf gets ejected from the game.

Amazing.

This is unbelievable. If Phaneuf fights Prust and beats his lights out, you would be the first one to yell and scream about how tough he is and what a great leader he is. But because he doesn't, he's suddenly a genius. Phaneuf can't lose! He's just that amazing.
- Two_For_Truth

You're kind of guilty of this but from the opposite point of view. Personally I care two poops about what Phaneuf did on that play, I have more issues that he couldn't keep up with the Smurfs last night, didn't play his game. And I hope he comes back with a big game tonight.

It happened at least twice. Phaneuf went looking for the big hit that left him at center ice while the Habs were on the attack.
- Two_For_Truth

At least twice last night? Okay, provide proof please.

I'll wait.

Wouldn't you agree that it is better to look for a big, legal hit than it is to go around fighting 4th line plugs?
- Leeman4Gilmour

You mean the big hit he never lands that leads to breaks the other way?

At least with a fight, it's a guaranteed result. The team sees the captain standing up and fighting to get the team going.

Not only do you assume Prust refuses to fight Phaneuf but you also assume Phaneuf gets ejected from the game.

Amazing.
- Two_For_Truth

I'm saying it's a possibility that he gets ejected.

You didn't want Orr to take runs at "Patches" over fear of getting a 5 and a game.

I'm telling you that Phaneuf could just as easily get 5 and a game for grabbing Prust and making him swallow his teeth.

There are too many if's.

-WHAT IF Prust lays a beatdown on phaneuf? Just because you're big doesn't mean you can fight. Phaneuf has had his fair share of fisticuffs, but Prust is paid to fight and start poop.
-WHAT IF phaneuf breaks a knuckle / hand / whatever
-WHAT IF a powerplay arises in the next 5 minutes and dion is sitting on in the box ( I know he misses the net and what not, but as of late he has had some success)


I don't know if I should keep going, but honestly, theres nothing to gain from him fighting Prust. I think it's time you hit the showers there bud.
- Fatty-Patty

What if Phaneuf breaks his foot blocking a shot?

Okay, no more shot blocking

What if Phaneuf hurts his teammates with a shot he misses?

Okay, no more shooting.

Everyone needs to learn to let ug talk to himself, cuz even then he'll disagree, but at least he's only bothering himself with his stupidity.

At least twice last night? Okay, provide proof please.

I'll wait.
- OBGYN Kenobi

Takes too long to go through game tape online, I rarely find evidence of this poop online myself unless its a big goal or something. Let him have his opinion.

At least twice last night? Okay, provide proof please.

I'll wait.
- OBGYN Kenobi

If you don't remember, that's your problem. NHL.com doesn't keep video of Phaneuf missing hits.

If Phaneuf beats the piss out of Prust and gets ejected for taking an instigator (the only way Prust would have fought is if he were forced to), and we go on to lose because Mike Kostka is now the #1 on the team, I can't see how anyone would be thrilled with the outcome any more than we are now.
- Leeman4Gilmour

A lot of hypotheticals here.. Sometimes I forget you know EXACTLY how things will play out. Silly me for having a different opinion. Next time ill agree with everything you have to say because you are clearly the smartest hockey guy north of the 49th. Take a look at the posts. It's becoming a pack mentality and its resorting to childish attacks. People like you are the reason no one wants to hear a leafs fans opinion

Everyone needs to learn to let ug talk to himself, cuz even then he'll disagree, but at least he's only bothering himself with his stupidity.
- LotekLeafs

And he'll eventually take the opposing side of every issue, so he's basically a one man message board.

If brown wasn't ejected it would have been a different game. Prust was a wrecking ball last night and no one did anything about it. If the leafs don't establish physical superiority then they lose. The meatheads aren't good enough to play big minutes so they didn't do much. Carlyle should have had Orr out there against prust more often.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

orr played over 15 minutes....more than enough time to slap prust about.

What if Phaneuf breaks his foot blocking a shot?

Okay, no more shot blocking

What if Phaneuf hurts his teammates with a shot he misses?

Okay, no more shooting.
- Two_For_Truth

Sorry, its funny because it happened.

You're kind of guilty of this but from the opposite point of view. Personally I care two poops about what Phaneuf did on that play, I have more issues that he couldn't keep up with the Smurfs last night, didn't play his game. And I hope he comes back with a big game tonight.
- mykokes

Not at all. I already said Phaneuf shouldn't have fought him on the PK. That would have been stupid. I don't expect him to fight him when his team is trying to kill a 5 minute PK. But as the captain of what is suppose to be a rough and tough team, he didn't do anything to spark the team and bring back the same type of aggression they had in the 6-0 game. A fight would have been a concrete example of trying to spark the team. And with the way he was playing, sitting for 5 minutes wouldn't have been that big of a deal because he was doing more bad than good with his play.

Fighting in the 2nd period is an automatic suspension?

Okay. New rules.
- Two_For_Truth

come on you know better than that.

Not only do you assume Prust refuses to fight Phaneuf but you also assume Phaneuf gets ejected from the game.

Amazing.
- Two_For_Truth

The guy has lost all credibility.

If you don't remember, that's your problem. NHL.com doesn't keep video of Phaneuf missing hits.
- Two_For_Truth

Right, because it didn't happen. Your original statement was that it happened so much that it basically lost the game.

Do you ever tire of being wrong? Arguing for the sake of arguing just to have your face used as a colon sponge on Hockeybuzz. Fantastic!