Two minutes for looking so good.
- LeafMan

Dion Phaneuf - the Leafs' best defenceman - suckered a Habs 4th liner into staying in the Leafs' end on a 5 minute powerplay, forcing the Habs to regroup instead of rushing the puck back into the zone.

If Phaneuf fights, he's off for about 4 minutes of a 5 minute major penalty kill.

Seriously, why are we having this discussion?

Phaneuf did the right thing.

Period.
- Atomic Wedgie

Quoted for truth.

And then you whine that Phaneuf is a selfish douche who is more concerned with fighting his personal battles than the good of the team.
- Leeman4Gilmour

But that wasn't the situation at all. If he fights Prust right away, yes, it is pretty stupid considering the situation. But it doesn't mean he can't do it later. Especially when his team is playing flat, uninspired hockey. But I guess that's the kind of leader you prefer.

That's the funny part about this.

If Phaneuf beats the hell out of Prust, everybody rejoices and basks in the glory of manliness and toughness that Alphaneuf exudes.

But if he doesn't, he's smart because Prust is a nobody.
- Two_For_Truth

Or how about:

If Phaneuf fights Prust, idiot douchebags criticize him for fighting a nobody, being suckered into a fight which places our best defenceman in the box for 5 minutes with their worst player (bad tradeoff).

But if he doesn't, the same idiot douchebags say he lacks leadership.

But that wasn't the situation at all. If he fights Prust right away, yes, it is pretty stupid considering the situation. But it doesn't mean he can't do it later. Especially when his team is playing flat, uninspired hockey. But I guess that's the kind of leader you prefer.
- Two_For_Truth

And we're all sure Prust would never have turned down a fight later?

Why would Prust fight Phaneuf when we need a kick-start?

Or maybe Phaneuf is supposed to take the instigator and just pummel him, to which you'd respond with the exact same "selfish douche" material.

But that wasn't the situation at all. If he fights Prust right away, yes, it is pretty stupid considering the situation. But it doesn't mean he can't do it later. Especially when his team is playing flat, uninspired hockey. But I guess that's the kind of leader you prefer.
- Two_For_Truth

do you watch sports at all in general?

Or how about:

If Phaneuf fights Prust, idiot douchebags criticize him for fighting a nobody, being suckered into a fight which places our best defenceman in the box for 5 minutes with their worst player (bad tradeoff).

But if he doesn't, the same idiot douchebags say he lacks leadership.
- Atomic Wedgie

Do you (frank)ing cackling old hens ever stop this moaning and whining for even 2 seconds?

But that wasn't the situation at all. If he fights Prust right away, yes, it is pretty stupid considering the situation. But it doesn't mean he can't do it later. Especially when his team is playing flat, uninspired hockey. But I guess that's the kind of leader you prefer.
- Two_For_Truth

The Leafs were down by a goal until 5:34 seconds left in the game.

So you want him to run around with five minutes left in the game trying to take Prust's head off and risk suspension?

Great plan, Uggie.

Do you (frank)ing cackling old hens ever stop this moaning and whining for even 2 seconds?
- Tee-Dot

And we're all sure Prust would never have turned down a fight later?

Why would Prust fight Phaneuf when we need a kick-start?

Or maybe Phaneuf is supposed to take the instigator and just pummel him, to which you'd respond with the exact same "selfish douche" material.
- Leeman4Gilmour

No way in hell Prust fights in the third.

No way in hell.

Or how about:

If Phaneuf fights Prust, idiot douchebags criticize him for fighting a nobody, being suckered into a fight which places our best defenceman in the box for 5 minutes with their worst player (bad tradeoff).

But if he doesn't, the same idiot douchebags say he lacks leadership.
- Atomic Wedgie

It depends when and where he fights Prust. If he fights him with 2 minutes left in the period, without a penalty kill to worry about, it's completely different than in the middle of a 5 minute penalty kill. He was smart to avoid him on the PK but it doesn't mean he couldn't fight him later on.

And let's not go crazy here. Phaneuf being in the box for 5 minutes in a game where he can't complete a single play without creating a turnover isn't the worst thing in the world either. Missing a few shifts to spark the team is a good trade off if the timing is right.

The Leafs were down by a goal until 5:34 seconds left in the game.

So you want him to run around with five minutes left in the game trying to take Prust's head off and risk suspension?

Great plan, Uggie.
- Atomic Wedgie

Of course he does. Then he could complain about that!

Do you (frank)ing cackling old hens ever stop this moaning and whining for even 2 seconds?
- Tee-Dot

Do you (frank)ing kaleidoscope Richard peasants ever stop breathing for 50-100 seconds?

Do you (frank)ing kaleidoscope Richard peasants ever stop breathing for 50-100 seconds?
- AdamFrench

Sometimes two times a night until my wife nudges me.

jk

edit: Also Happy Birthday (actually Leap year girl) to my beautiful niece Nicole today.

- robin_steele264

It never (frank)ing stops. Phaneuf coult be a +/-93 and Kessel could have 67 goals but they would still argue over the fact that the light bulbs at ACC are not General Electric.

It depends when and where he fights Prust. If he fights him with 2 minutes left in the period, without a penalty kill to worry about, it's completely different than in the middle of a 5 minute penalty kill. He was smart to avoid him on the PK but it doesn't mean he couldn't fight him later on.

And let's not go crazy here. Phaneuf being in the box for 5 minutes in a game where he can't complete a single play without creating a turnover isn't the worst thing in the world either. Missing a few shifts to spark the team is a good trade off if the timing is right.
- Two_For_Truth

When?

Simple question.

The Leafs were down by a goal until 5:34 seconds left in the game.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh so they're only allowed to fight if they're ahead.

Great plan.

Sometimes two times a night until my wife nudges me.

jk
- LeafMan

Burke should be true to his word and convince Bob Murray that Kessel is indeed worth two 1sts and a 2nd

And we're all sure Prust would never have turned down a fight later?

Why would Prust fight Phaneuf when we need a kick-start?

Or maybe Phaneuf is supposed to take the instigator and just pummel him, to which you'd respond with the exact same "selfish douche" material.
- Leeman4Gilmour

If Prust runs away, Phaneuf wins the battle without having to sit in the box for it.

It depends when and where he fights Prust. If he fights him with 2 minutes left in the period, without a penalty kill to worry about, it's completely different than in the middle of a 5 minute penalty kill. He was smart to avoid him on the PK but it doesn't mean he couldn't fight him later on.

And let's not go crazy here. Phaneuf being in the box for 5 minutes in a game where he can't complete a single play without creating a turnover isn't the worst thing in the world either. Missing a few shifts to spark the team is a good trade off if the timing is right.
- Two_For_Truth

And what if Phaneuf loses the fight? That's inspiring to the team, seeing your captain go to the box, having lost against a nobody.

And what if Phaneuf breaks his hand in the fight? Or gets his orbital bone smashed?

Then he's out more than a few shifts, and the Leafs lose their best d-man.

Star players should not fight enforcers. Ever.

That's why we have (frank)ing 4 of them on roster.

Whatever.


If they lose to the Islanders are we back to tanking and trading Dionzie and Philzer?

Oh so they're only allowed to fight if they're ahead.

Great plan.
- Two_For_Truth

Fighting in the last 5 minutes is an automatic suspension.

Whatever.


If they lose to the Islanders are we back to tanking and trading Dionzie and Philzer?
- robin_steele264

yes

Or how about:

If Phaneuf fights Prust, idiot douchebags criticize him for fighting a nobody, being suckered into a fight which places our best defenceman in the box for 5 minutes with their worst player (bad tradeoff).

But if he doesn't, the same idiot douchebags say he lacks leadership.
- Atomic Wedgie

How about if DionP. fights Hartnell, but he's too afraid?