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nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Was all that chatter about a briere to St. Louis for Shattenkirk bogus?
- jstross


Bogus no, blown outta proportion yes
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Definitely interested in Bogosian. But I have zero interest in Byfuglien.
- MJL

plz explain
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Bogus no, blown outta proportion yes
- nonpoint22


I would say it's bogus.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
plz explain
- JoeRussomanno


Good offensively, but is a very undisciplined player. Question marks on being out of shapel. I want a defenseman. Not a forward playing defense type.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
I'm not arguing, just saying... You know how us flyer fans are and how it goes with players, Couturier would get traded win 4 stanley cups and 6 selke's we'd be stuck with laughton 15 more years of a cup drought and Laught would win like 5 player of the month awards.
- JoeRussomanno


Well, I'm just looking at a straight up comparison between the two players.

I'm not against trading Couturier in the right deal, but it's got to be a deal where they get somebody like an OEL-young and with potential to be a Norris contender
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
I don't think they need an elite defenseman, just a good one that can move the puck and qb the PP.

Certainly if you want an elite one, it's going to cost you Couturier or Schenn, and I'm not totally against that.

- Jsaquella


IMHO, I believe Homer badly wants an elite d-man as evidenced by his pursuit of Suter and Weber in the summer. I don't think he is moving any of the young forwards without getting a d-man back who can come close to replacing Pronger.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
I don't think they need an elite defenseman, just a good one that can move the puck and qb the PP.

Certainly if you want an elite one, it's going to cost you Couturier or Schenn, and I'm not totally against that.

- Jsaquella


IMHO, I believe Homer badly wants an elite d-man as evidenced by his pursuit of Suter and Weber in the summer. I don't think he is moving any of the young forwards without getting a d-man back who can come close to replacing Pronger.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
Very likely, at least as a straight up trade.
- Jsaquella


Is he as good as people were saying or was there sarcasm?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
IMHO, I believe Homer badly wants an elite d-man as evidenced by his pursuit of Suter and Weber in the summer. I don't think he is moving any of the young forwards without getting a d-man back who can come close to replacing Pronger.
- ravishingone


I'm sure he'd love an elite defenseman. But he also wants to keep Couturier and Schenn around
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
I would say it's bogus.
- MJL


Im sure there was some contact, but i am sure it was just routine GM stuff that happens all the time without being reported
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:00 PM ET
Good offensively, but is a very undisciplined player. Question marks on his fitness level. I want a defenseman. Not a forward playing defense type.
- MJL


I would rather have bogosian as well
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:01 PM ET
Is he as good as people were saying or was there sarcasm?
- jstross


Shattenkirk is a very good offensive defenseman. He might not be that magical, legit number one guy right now, but he could develop into a guy very similar to Dan Boyle, if he's not there now.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:01 PM ET
Good offensively, but is a very undisciplined player. Question marks on his fitness level. I want a defenseman. Not a forward playing defense type.
- MJL

acceptable explanation. I;ve felt the same, but think maybe he can help... maybe
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:02 PM ET
Well, I'm just looking at a straight up comparison between the two players.

I'm not against trading Couturier in the right deal, but it's got to be a deal where they get somebody like an OEL-young and with potential to be a Norris contender

- Jsaquella

same here
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:02 PM ET
Shattenkirk is a very good offensive defenseman. He might not be that magical, legit number one guy right now, but he could develop into a guy very similar to Dan Boyle, if he's not there now.
- Jsaquella


Speaking of Dan Boyle apparently San Jose would listen to offers for him
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:03 PM ET
Speaking of Dan Boyle apparently San Jose would listen to offers for him
- nonpoint22


At this point, I'd be hesitant to jump, especially since they supposedly want a big return.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:04 PM ET
I'm sure he'd love an elite defenseman. But he also wants to keep Couturier and Schenn around
- Jsaquella


Possibly, it is certainly speculation what Poile wanted and Homer was willing to give for Weber. I just don't see the value in acquring a Jay Bo or Campbell when it is going to cost you some type of young asset probably plus a high draft choice.

Got get a Larson, Pieterangelo or Bogo, if it means Coots, then so be it. I understand it takes two to tango to get a deal done.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
I just wanna take a moment to reflect on something that happened last night that was really cool. In fact I can't remember the last time something cooler happened.


the fact that the goalie of my hockey team wore a star wars themed mask is like a a parade... of awesomeness just saying.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:06 PM ET
At this point, I'd be hesitant to jump, especially since they supposedly want a big return.
- Jsaquella


I agree but I figured I'd throw it out there
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:06 PM ET
I just wanna take a moment to reflect on something that happened last night that was really cool. In fact I can't remember the last time something cooler happened.


the fact that the goalie of my hockey team wore a star wars themed mask is like a a parade... of awesomeness just saying.

- JoeRussomanno


Nerdgasm?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:07 PM ET
Nerdgasm?
- tangent_man

whatever you wanna call it but I remember growing up with that stuff in the 80's and thinking how awesome it would be if Pelle or Hexy ever rolled out a mask like that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:09 PM ET
I just wanna take a moment to reflect on something that happened last night that was really cool. In fact I can't remember the last time something cooler happened.


the fact that the goalie of my hockey team wore a star wars themed mask is like a a parade... of awesomeness just saying.

- JoeRussomanno


Yoda's lightsaber blade will be repainted green
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
Shattenkirk is a very good offensive defenseman. He might not be that magical, legit number one guy right now, but he could develop into a guy very similar to Dan Boyle, if he's not there now.
- Jsaquella


So, the proverbial IF, Briere was willing to waive his NMC. What do the Flyers have to add to make the trade a reality?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:11 PM ET
Yoda's lightsaber blade will be repainted green
- Jsaquella

all that matters is vader is doing the sith force choke pose. Everything else is copacetic.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:11 PM ET
So, the proverbial IF, Briere was willing to waive his NMC. What do the Flyers have to add to make the trade a reality?
- jstross


Depends on what you want coming back
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