Leighton has some gig. He signs these contracts and plays one NHL game a year.

Off the top of my head, Zhitnik for Coburn.
- phillydentist

That's not even close to the same thing. Coburn was a struggling, unproven defenseman and Atlanta thought Zhitnik would help them get into the playoffs.

Shattenkirk is a top pairing defenseman and is a key part of the Blues. He alone is more valuable to the Blues than Briere would be. The same could not be said of Coburn.

Roenick did the same on NHL Tonight. Ovie's making $110k per game, and JR had a 'highlight' reel of his miscues from the game. Said Leonsis should be asking for a refund.
- tangent_man

Mere bag of shells. Leighton makes 900K per game.

Off the top of my head, Zhitnik for Coburn.
- phillydentist

Far different situation. Unlike Doug Armstrong, who has a solid grip on his job, Don Waddell had to make the post season to keep his job. He didn't have the luxury of hoping Coburn would turn into a good defenseman.

Also, unlike Coburn, who was a very inconsistent prospect at the time, Shattenkirk is an established NHLer, in the midst of an excellent season. The season he was traded he had even spent time in the AHL.

At the time of that deal, Coburn had played 39 NHL games and was still very much a prospect. Shattenkirk is in his 3rd NHL Season and is established as a very good NHL defenseman.
- MJL

And Zhitnik is no Briere who is a proven playoff beast... with 3 potential playoff runs and not just a 2 month rental.

Off the top of my head, Zhitnik for Coburn.
- phillydentist

I may be mistaken, but wasn't Nashville about to head into their first playoffs that year? They were probably looking for a veteran blueliner and had grown a bit impatient with Coburn's development (and impatience is something we're far too familiar with here).

Of course, Holmgren could have just been lucky as hell, too.

At the time of that deal, Coburn had played 39 NHL games and was still very much a prospect. Shattenkirk is in his 3rd NHL Season and is established as a very good NHL defenseman.
- MJL

you're right...there is no parallel between the 2 situations

Leighton has some gig. He signs these contracts and plays one NHL game a year.
- PLindbergh31

Right? and the checks keep rolling in. Take it if you can get it, I guess. Even if you have to fudge the truth about your back injury

I may be mistaken, but wasn't Nashville about to head into their first playoffs that year? They were probably looking for a veteran blueliner and had grown a bit impatient with Coburn's development (and impatience is something we're far too familiar with here).

Of course, Holmgren could have just been lucky as hell, too.
- tangent_man

It was Atlanta...

And Zhitnik is no Briere who is a proven playoff beast... with 3 potential playoff runs and not just a 2 month rental.
- phillydentist

Actually, over his career, Zhitnik was a very solid playoff performer.

Leighton has some gig. He signs these contracts and plays one NHL game a year.
- PLindbergh31

Not even, regular season wise.

2Q +2Q=?
- vejim

Where Q = Rose, 2 Roses + 2 Roses = 4 Roses

Cheers!

It was Atlanta...
- phillydentist

Yes, it was. I was mistaken after all. The point stands, though.

Or how young and healthy Gagne is.
- phillydentist

i think that conversation stopped about 2 hours ago.

i don't believe so. he had a hose running too. totally flooded one end of the rink or something. think he slipped on the metal grate right by the zam doors. an older guy. don't have all the details.
- hammarby31

I don't know the guy or the place, but that is just awful.

I may be mistaken, but wasn't Nashville about to head into their first playoffs that year? They were probably looking for a veteran blueliner and had grown a bit impatient with Coburn's development (and impatience is something we're far too familiar with here).

Of course, Holmgren could have just been lucky as hell, too.
- tangent_man

Nope, it was Atlanta, but they needed to make the playoffs to save the GM's job, which led to two desperation trades. Coburn for Zhitnik and a picks and prospects package for Keith Tkachuk

LOL. That's actually pretty good.

No, I am fully acknowledging that my speculation is for fun and thats what hockey boards are for.

I just have an issue with people who think they are experts in an area where there is no expert.
- phillydentist

NO ONE IS CALLING THEMSELVES EXPERTS.

2Q +2Q=?
- vejim

2Q + 2Q = Q

If Q is the Q from Star Trek TNG.

LOL. That's actually pretty good.

No, I am fully acknowledging that my speculation is for fun and thats what hockey boards are for.

I just have an issue with people who think they are experts in an area where there is no expert.
- phillydentist

I'm just teasing you don't go forgetting to use novacaine on a root canal later

NO ONE IS CALLING THEMSELVES EXPERTS.
- NickTheKid87

Speaking of which, anyone want to play Expert?

i think that conversation stopped about 2 hours ago.
- hammarby31

Oh the day is young and healthy...just like Gagne

I'm just teasing you don't go forgetting to use novacaine on a root canal later
- JoeRussomanno

Cheapshot! Below the gumline!

I'm just teasing you don't go forgetting to use novacaine on a root canal later
- JoeRussomanno

I'm having a blast on here.

He never got any payback on that BS elbow did he? He did nothing as a player. Waste of a roster spot ends up taking out Pirmeau.

While we're compiling our hit list, we may as well add Grabovski. Yeah it was an accident but hey this is business.


- Lexington Flyer

nope. never. and then he went back to russia. (frank)ing assclown.

i've got no beef with grabovski. just sucks something so dumb ends a HOFer's career. wear a (frank)ing visor, ya' dope. no guarantee, but a better chance of being protected.

Wow. That's terrible. Nobody was around?
- Scoob

That place is like every other rink. The men's league finishes and everyone else is gone. The Zamboni driver finishes up and locks the doors. His son found him around 1:30 am when he didn't come home. He was 70 which these days isn't really as old as it sounds.