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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
He had his best game in eons but I still counted to FOUR!

The number of times I saw him fall to the ice!


And get this. On the Toronto feed. They commented that KO is a 9th overall pick who has a big body and CAN SKATE! But he's been having problems. YA THINK?

- SCLI

Trading partners?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
I know friend Iknew they would battle back and they did
- kasperrko

One day Okposo Bailey Nielson and Snows name will be hanging from Brooklyn
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
i stand by it....by the start of the 2015 season, isles will be competing for the stanley cup. quote me!!
- LetsGoIsles


They are competing for the Stanley Cup now!

Just not doing a very good job of it.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
There is a lot less talent on this team then most Isles fans think. I don't know why people think/say that we have a talented team? Do you watch other teams play? We don't have much talent.
- Cptmjl


I don't know...there seems to be more chatter this year among coaches, on broadcasts, and just in general, of people recognizing that there is some talent on this team. Tavares and Moulson get most of the credit, but Grabner's getting some recognition for what he provides. And we know what we have in some of our bottom-six energy players that can actually sustain a forecheck and get some momentum going. We haven't had that in recent years...never had a line like Martin-Cizikas-McD/whoever who we could throw out there when things start spiraling out of control to maybe swing some momentum back in the Isles' favor and at least have a shift spent mostly in the other team's zone.

I really think there's enough talent where, with a heck of a lot more structure in how the team approaches the game, particularly in its own zone, getting into the playoffs wouldn't be entirely out of the realm of possibility. Do the Leafs have that much more talent than the Isles? Or the Jets? Because both of those teams are currently holding down playoff spots...
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
He had his best game in eons but I still counted to FOUR!

The number of times I saw him fall to the ice!


And get this. On the Toronto feed. They commented that KO is a 9th overall pick who has a big body and CAN SKATE! But he's been having problems. YA THINK?

- SCLI



Trade him to Toronto for a 1st rounder!!!
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
Trade him to Toronto for a 1st rounder!!!
- jimmc7722

DO they have any first rounders left this decade?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
One day Okposo Bailey Nielson and Snows name will be hanging from Brooklyn
- mighty13duck

This one made me laugh
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
Trading partners?
- Cptmjl


His stock right now is the highest its been all yr after coming off two good games.

Maybe there is a team out there that believes they can improve is atrocious skating.

Otherwise I have to believe that the NHL knows he cant skate very well and I doubt we get much back for him one on one.

He would be best served being part of a package deal.

For whom?

thats anyone's guess.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
Are you an English teacher?
- mighty13duck


you dont have be an english teach to know "irregardless" isnt a word.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
Trade him to Toronto for a 1st rounder!!!
- jimmc7722


Sorry Burke is gone.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
i said it...and stick to it...the only way pap signs with the isles is with a 4 year deal, that doesnt fit into their plans.
- LetsGoIsles



It should fit into the plans.... They had a player getting it done, their plans consist of replacing that player with players that might get it done, you hold on to the player getting it done till the ones that might.. are. If the planned players become what was expected in a year, or 2, you trade PAP for a weak spot. If the players don't amount to what you planned, you still have the guy who was getting it done. Someone needs to inform them that if their plan is to just let ASSETS walk away fro nothing, their plan is never going to work.

XxNYIxX
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
I don't know...there seems to be more chatter this year among coaches, on broadcasts, and just in general, of people recognizing that there is some talent on this team. Tavares and Moulson get most of the credit, but Grabner's getting some recognition for what he provides. And we know what we have in some of our bottom-six energy players that can actually sustain a forecheck and get some momentum going. We haven't had that in recent years...never had a line like Martin-Cizikas-McD/whoever who we could throw out there when things start spiraling out of control to maybe swing some momentum back in the Isles' favor and at least have a shift spent mostly in the other team's zone.

I really think there's enough talent where, with a heck of a lot more structure in how the team approaches the game, particularly in its own zone, getting into the playoffs wouldn't be entirely out of the realm of possibility. Do the Leafs have that much more talent than the Isles? Or the Jets? Because both of those teams are currently holding down playoff spots...

- UIF


No they do not have more talent.

Toronto changed their system.

They used to play the same system we did... the Burke, Wilson Gordon.. GoGo system... that doesn't work.


LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
What is your idea of "competing for the Stanley Cup"?
- Cptmjl



when they get into the playoffs, they will be considered a threat to win it...unlike this season, IF (which i dont think they will) they get in, no one will fear them.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
DO they have any first rounders left this decade?
- mighty13duck



I know... I miss Burke already!!!
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
Brother leave Lord KO alone. Without him this team is doomed, his leadership last night was bar none
- kasperrko



It still baffles me how this guy is wearing an A

XxNYIxX
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
No they do not have more talent.

Toronto changed their system.

They used to play the same system we did... the Burke, Wilson Gordon.. GoGo system... that doesn't work.

- jimmc7722


I was saying the same thing last night.

This Leafs team is basically the same team from last yr.

The coach is gone. Burke is gone. Orr is back.

They are now playing a different style of hockey and they are a bit more intimidating. More physical.

And winning.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
No they do not have more talent.

Toronto changed their system.

They used to play the same system we did... the Burke, Wilson Gordon.. GoGo system... that doesn't work.

- jimmc7722


Exactly. You can't simply ignore defense. As last night showed, you can score four goals and still come up short if D isn't a priority.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
I don't know...there seems to be more chatter this year among coaches, on broadcasts, and just in general, of people recognizing that there is some talent on this team. Tavares and Moulson get most of the credit, but Grabner's getting some recognition for what he provides. And we know what we have in some of our bottom-six energy players that can actually sustain a forecheck and get some momentum going. We haven't had that in recent years...never had a line like Martin-Cizikas-McD/whoever who we could throw out there when things start spiraling out of control to maybe swing some momentum back in the Isles' favor and at least have a shift spent mostly in the other team's zone.

I really think there's enough talent where, with a heck of a lot more structure in how the team approaches the game, particularly in its own zone, getting into the playoffs wouldn't be entirely out of the realm of possibility. Do the Leafs have that much more talent than the Isles? Or the Jets? Because both of those teams are currently holding down playoff spots...

- UIF

IDK about their talent level? I usually agree with you but we'll disagree on this one. There is some but feel it's limited.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
His stock right now is the highest its been all yr after coming off two good games.

Maybe there is a team out there that believes they can improve is atrocious skating.

Otherwise I have to believe that the NHL knows he cant skate very well and I doubt we get much back for him one on one.

He would be best served being part of a package deal.

For whom?

thats anyone's guess.

- SCLI


Maybe if the Isles had a better coach guys like Bailey and KO would show something and there would be no need to trade these guys? So much for the importance placed on building with young talent.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
It should fit into the plans.... They had a player getting it done, their plans consist of replacing that player with players that might get it done, you hold on to the player getting it done till the ones that might.. are. If the planned players become what was expected in a year, or 2, you trade PAP for a weak spot. If the players don't amount to what you planned, you still have the guy who was getting it done. Someone needs to inform them that if their plan is to just let ASSETS walk away fro nothing, their plan is never going to work.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



disagree with everything BUT the bold last line...i wanted him traded; i had a feeling he was going to go where the most money was being offered...and rightfully so.

as for the first part, i understand what your saying, we just have a difference of opinion on the approach. i think they can replace pap with a much cheaper alternative and use that money saved to something that cant be replaced immediately IE dman
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
I was saying the same thing last night.

This Leafs team is basically the same team from last yr.

The coach is gone. Burke is gone. Orr is back.

They are now playing a different style of hockey and they are a bit more intimidating. More physical.

And winning.

- SCLI


Shocking what a good coach can do and you do not have to spend millions on a good coach.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
It still baffles me how this guy is wearing an A

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



haha i was thinking that also...2 of the 3 players with a letter are 2 of the least motivated players on the team.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
It should fit into the plans.... They had a player getting it done, their plans consist of replacing that player with players that might get it done, you hold on to the player getting it done till the ones that might.. are. If the planned players become what was expected in a year, or 2, you trade PAP for a weak spot. If the players don't amount to what you planned, you still have the guy who was getting it done. Someone needs to inform them that if their plan is to just let ASSETS walk away fro nothing, their plan is never going to work.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Who needs a player that scores nearly a point per game??? Obviously not the Isles.

P. Parenteau Games 19 Goals 8 Assists 9 +3 17 Points
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
Maybe if the Isles had a better coach guys like Bailey and KO would show something and there would be no need to trade these guys? So much for the importance placed on building with young talent.
- ses111


We've seen it with past Isles players that were traded.

Would love to kept chatting but have to go.

Have a good day.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
I was shocked by his goal total, he always was more of a set up guy. He's not scoring but he's putting up points none the less. Irregardless his point total tells me he's worth 4.5 million.
- Cptmjl


Over 4 years? Let's wait and see what that point total looks like after the four year term, not 20 games into the first season. He's going to get his points, Matt Duchene is no Tavares but the kid is still a wicked player. PA will put up decent stats but I seriously doubt he'll sniff at 67 points again.
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