Interference and boarding can also be called 5 minute majors. And it does kinda seem like you guys are arguing that it was a clean hit.
- Khadgar

It wasn't a clean hit. It's a standard 2 minute boarding call that's been called for years. Gorges wasn't hammered by any stretch, he wasn't hurt.. It wasn't from behind, brown didn't come at him intending to end his career. It's a two minute penalty.

And it's completely irrelevant. It didn't exactly bury the leafs. They'd be better off spending hours making a stink about the tip in on the bozak face off. At least that one had a permanent tempo changing effect.

Interference and boarding can also be called 5 minute majors. And it does kinda seem like you guys are arguing that it was a clean hit.
- Khadgar

He called it "shoulder to shoulder".

Thank you for a good, articulate response. Again, despite appearances I respect your opinion; its the tone that I often disagree with.

I disagree with regards to point of contact/direction of contact, but agree with regards to it being somewhat dangerous. I agree that a penalty was a good decision, but I thought that 5 was too harsh and the misconduct definitely excessive.

Did Brown mean to hurt him? Absolutely. Thats what he's paid for. I think that everybody is agreed on that point. Should he have been eligible to come on the ice later? Absolutely
- lumlums

You guys were more interesting when you were fighting.

Now with all this "you're cool, bro" and "I like you too, dude" stuff, you guys are a few posts away from a Canucks handshake!

It wasn't a clean hit. It's a standard 2 minute boarding call that's been called for years. Gorges wasn't hammered by any stretch, he wasn't hurt.. It wasn't from behind, brown didn't come at him intending to end his career. It's a two minute penalty.

And it's completely irrelevant. It didn't exactly bury the leafs. They'd be better off spending hours making a stink about the tip in on the bozak face off. At least that one had a permanent tempo changing effect.
- joel878

Rule 41 - Boarding

41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.

There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize the contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.

Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”

41.2 Minor Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent.

41.3 Major Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent (see 41.5).

41.4 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by boarding.

41.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is imposed under this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.

Guys the Leafs will win 3-2 tonight.
- sanfordnson

The call was hitting from behind and there is no minor for that. It's just a major. The misconduct is something you could argue against but odds are the referees didn't want the game to get out of hand like it did last time so they tossed the 4th liner and set the tone.

Also, Gorges hadn't touched the puck yet. That's something else that should be considered.
- Two_For_Truth

This is something I will definitely agree with. Said it right at the time of infraction. If he was gonna get tossed I woulda preferred it be for one-punching Prust, but maybe that's just me...???

It's a collision sport and people are going to get hurt but it shouldn't be on plays like that. The game is fast and the boards are never going to lose a battle.

Also very true. I think that if the officiating was immaculate apart from this, then there would be less outrage. But between a few too many men not called, and Scrivens getting run a couple of times, there was little forgiveness from the blue and white fans tonight. Whenever the officials are getting noticed by name its never a good thing...

Every team has bad calls go against them. Get over it.

You guys were more interesting when you were fighting.

Now with all this "you're cool, bro" and "I like you too, dude" stuff, you guys are a few posts away from a Canucks handshake!
- As_I_See_It

I'm british. We have the Scottish handshake

I will always give respect where its due. When poop gets dirty, then I'm always game for engaging in that poop.

One of the benefits of working 65 hours a week for less than minimum wage ((frank)ing grad school!) is that I'm always ready for a battle of wits

Rule 41 - Boarding

41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.

There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize the contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.

Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”

41.2 Minor Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent.

41.3 Major Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent (see 41.5).

41.4 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by boarding.

41.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is imposed under this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.
- Two_For_Truth

Not interested man.

You always have your own way of seeing things. 9/10 its anti leaf, and in direct contrast to what every one else thinks.

Have fun with that, you seem to enjoy it.

Rule 41 - Boarding

41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.

There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize the contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.

Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”

41.2 Minor Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent.

41.3 Major Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent (see 41.5).

41.4 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by boarding.

41.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is imposed under this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.
- Two_For_Truth

These TSN games are so brutal, refs clearly trying to keep the game close for entertainment value. The hit is a play u see about once or twice on any game. Two min penalty if the player isn't hurt... 5 mins if he is... maybe even no penalty if ur team is losing.. Last 6 or 7 years the game has gotten so watered down its a franking joke...

These TSN games are so brutal, refs clearly trying to keep the game close for entertainment value. The hit is a play u see about once or twice on any game. Two min penalty if the player isn't hurt... 5 mins if he is... maybe even no penalty if ur team is losing.. Last 6 or 7 years the game has gotten so watered down its a franking joke...
- orienbrady22

That type of hit does not happen twice per game without a call. If it does, the referees made a mistake by missing it.

You also can't officiate the game like that. You can't give 5 minutes only when the guy breaks his neck. A dangerous play like that is dangerous whether the guy gets hurt or not. Then you have guys who start faking injuries just so they get a major and other guys who start playing more recklessly because they aren't punished for making dangerous plays.

Not interested man.

You always have your own way of seeing things. 9/10 its anti leaf, and in direct contrast to what every one else thinks.

Have fun with that, you seem to enjoy it.
- joel878

Even if you wanted it to be called boarding, it's clearly stated in the rules that it's up to the referees and considering how violently he hit the boards, it would have been a 5 minute major anyway. Just because it's reality doesn't mean it's anti-Leaf.

That type of hit does not happen twice per game without a call. If it does, the referees made a mistake by missing it.

You also can't officiate the game like that. You can't give 5 minutes only when the guy breaks his neck. A dangerous play like that is dangerous whether the guy gets hurt or not. Then you have guys who start faking injuries just so they get a major and other guys who start playing more recklessly because they aren't punished for making dangerous plays.
- Two_For_Truth

Officiating like that has been happening for quite some time now...

Officiating like that has been happening for quite some time now...
- orienbrady22

If you injure a player, the penalty is more severe but just because you don't hurt a guy, doesn't mean you can't give players a severe punishment. If plays like that happen every single game, somebody is going to break a neck eventually and that's really what the NHL is trying to avoid. They're trying to punish guys so they avoid dangerous plays like that.

Guys.

I'm not sure what to say...

I'm really confused here...

(frank) I'm just going to say it.





The new Red Dawn isn't bad.

Guys.

I'm not sure what to say...

I'm really confused here...

(frank) I'm just going to say it.





The new Red Dawn isn't bad.
- Feeling Glucky?

STFU

STFU
- sanfordnson

I'm sorry

I'm sorry
- Feeling Glucky?

There was a Django Unchained reference earlier and you have the audacity to bring up Red Dawn?

You should be sorry.

There was a Django Unchained reference earlier and you have the audacity to bring up Red Dawn?

You should be sorry.
- Two_For_Truth

Well put.

Exactly! Reimer tomorrow night, then 3 days off. By then, the Leafs will have Frattin back and Lupul should be a week after that. I think it's time that Nonis should make a couple of moves. I think it's time for Gardiner. He would have opened up the ice tonight, if he had played. They should also re-visit the O'Reilly trade talks, as well.
- PrinceLH

Holzer definitely deserves some bench time now. A few too many rookie mistakes. 2 of those mistakes cost us game winning goals against.

Holzer definitely deserves some bench time now. A few too many rookie mistakes. 2 of those mistakes cost us game winning goals against.
- stevecarpetman

Absolutely no way he should be getting 1st pairing minutes.

Carlyle really likes the traditional set-up. He put Phaneuf on the left, where he belongs and he always has a right handed guy with him on the right. First they tried it with Kostka and now it's been Holzer. But Holzer is really screwing up way too much with the ice time he is getting. The only right handed option left is Franson and maybe it's time they at least tried it. And nobody suggest Komisarek. It's Komisarek. That should be enough.

I don't know about you...but I can see both numbers clearly....not sure what you define as hitting from behind...but that ain't it.
- Pen15

I am growing tired of watching these kids turn away to try and draw a penalty. I think the players should be mindful of themselves as much as mindful of each other. Kinda like giving a guy a penalty for hitting a guy with his head down.

I am growing tired of watching these kids turn away to try and draw a penalty. I think the players should be mindful of themselves as much as mindful of each other. Kinda like giving a guy a penalty for hitting a guy with his head down.
- stevecarpetman

Yes Im sure guys skating after pucks are eager to turn and get smashed headfirst into the boards to try and draw a penalty.

Yes Im sure guys skating after pucks are eager to turn and get smashed headfirst into the boards to try and draw a penalty.
- sanfordnson

No but they often put themselves in vulnerable positions trying to avoid a hit...

Absolutely no way he should be getting 1st pairing minutes.

Carlyle really likes the traditional set-up. He put Phaneuf on the left, where he belongs and he always has a right handed guy with him on the right. First they tried it with Kostka and now it's been Holzer. But Holzer is really screwing up way too much with the ice time he is getting. The only right handed option left is Franson and maybe it's time they at least tried it. And nobody suggest Komisarek. It's Komisarek. That should be enough.
- Two_For_Truth

Carlyle likes his dmen to be defensive first, which is why Liles and Gardiner are not playing now. They are weaker defensively but Holzer has been making some major gaffs that are costing the team.

BTW it was a penalty under the rules, but the players have to stop putting themselves in reckless positions if they want to clean up the game. This crap about putting everything in the hands of the officials sucks.