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sigep predfan
Nashville Predators
Location: Clarksville, TN
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:05 AM ET
This is not a playoff team. I thought that by now they'd be shaking off the long offseason and get back to being the team we saw last year. Nope! This team isn't even close to what we had on the ice last season. It's a shell of that team, and worst part is everyone is standing pat.

I get the feeling that this organization isn't going to try and make any corrections due to the fact that this is a shortened season. If they were going to do something then why haven't we at least seen a call-up from Milwaukee?

Etem was in the game last night. He was picked 29th in the same draft that we picked Watson 18th, yet he's able to crack a lineup with a very potent offense. In the meantime, Watson can't play for a team that has a hard time just getting a single goal on a regular basis? Why is that?

And can someone tell Clune to stop trying to fight... or whatever the hell that is he's trying to pass off as fighting. It's embarrassing.

- Predaceous


Hopefully the front office sees these pathetic efforts and makes a move or two, but I won't hold my breath. It would be a shame for this team to miss the playoffs, especially with the momentum being built by the last couple of seasons. Nashville area fans are fickle. Those fans who have started casually coming to games will stop spending the money it takes if the team shows no signs of getting better. See: the Titans.

Clune needs to sit, permanently. He brings nothing to the table offensively, very little defensively, and is bad at being a "tough-guy". Overall, there are too many flaws on this team to do anything in the playoffs even if they get there, especially in the Western Conference.

And it's clear that Rinne is becoming fed up with the pitiful defense in front of him. He can't consistently bail this team out every night.
Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Feb 28 @ 10:42 AM ET
Ok, this is just funny (As it relates to the Preds)

Milbury is slamming Ovechkin and says
A blind pass, 8 year olds don't do this in the offensive zone.


You listening Erat? (and various and sundry Predators players)

http://youtu.be/aicwKSikBeM?hd=1
wrister
Joined: 12.28.2011

Feb 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
Hopefully the front office sees these pathetic efforts and makes a move or two, but I won't hold my breath. It would be a shame for this team to miss the playoffs, especially with the momentum being built by the last couple of seasons. Nashville area fans are fickle. Those fans who have started casually coming to games will stop spending the money it takes if the team shows no signs of getting better. See: the Titans.

Clune needs to sit, permanently. He brings nothing to the table offensively, very little defensively, and is bad at being a "tough-guy". Overall, there are too many flaws on this team to do anything in the playoffs even if they get there, especially in the Western Conference.

And it's clear that Rinne is becoming fed up with the pitiful defense in front of him. He can't consistently bail this team out every night.

- sigep predfan


You are correct on the fickle fan statement. (see Vandy basketball)
Fans in this town will only support who is winning. That is unfortunate. However, with the cost of going to a sporting event these days who can blame them. I miss the days of going to Jr. games to see most of these guy's play as young men for $8 bucks a ticket and a $3 beer.
As for Clune... he isn't the problem, heck he was the only one with any energy last night. One problem lies in the fact that this line-up is full of grinders and no pure goal scorers. Only true goal scorers are Erat (in a slump) Kostitsen (won't shoot) and Smith (what.. 3rd or 4th line ?)
slash&smash
Nashville Predators
Location: WTFDP!!!, NF
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ok, this is just funny (As it relates to the Preds)

Milbury is slamming Ovechkin and says

You listening Erat? (and various and sundry Predators players)

http://youtu.be/aicwKSikBeM?hd=1

- Predaceous


" When you have great talent, it comes with great expectations & accountability"
Spot on Mr. Milbury. I bet Washington hates Ovie's contract now.
slash&smash
Nashville Predators
Location: WTFDP!!!, NF
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
Hopefully the front office sees these pathetic efforts and makes a move or two, but I won't hold my breath.

Clune needs to sit, permanently. He brings nothing to the table offensively, very little defensively, and is bad at being a "tough-guy".

- sigep predfan


DP just picked up another AHL D man for McG. This means Huggy Bear is staying with the Preds. Not sure if a vet D man is on the move or a baby pred D prospect. Maybe both but is got a little crowded in the D corp. Something has to give!!!

So this today on twitter: @JUnderwood9 #preds have allowed 23 GA in the last 6 games - only 25 GA in the first 15 games. Ouch!
wings-suck
Nashville Predators
Location: hendersonville, TN
Joined: 01.18.2009

Feb 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
DP just picked up another AHL D man for McG. This means Huggy Bear is staying with the Preds. Not sure if a vet D man is on the move or a baby pred D prospect. Maybe both but is got a little crowded in the D corp. Something has to give!!!
- slash&smash


Maybe Poile is close to obtaining his "dream team"....and all-AHL team manned by nothing but D-men! Kudos to David Poile for fulfilling his dream!
playhockey
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 28 @ 7:45 PM ET
Maybe Poile is close to obtaining his "dream team"....and all-AHL team manned by nothing but D-men! Kudos to David Poile for fulfilling his dream!
- wings-suck



WE NEED A NEW COACH. WE NEED A NEW COACH. WE NEED A NEW COACH.
PoileRulezzzYo
Nashville Predators
Location: #Where'sDavidPoileHiding?
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 8:56 PM ET
WE NEED A NEW COACH. WE NEED A NEW COACH. WE NEED A NEW COACH.
- playhockey

Scotty Bowman couldn't make this team much better. This roster is atrocious. The Preds got blasted out of the second round of the playoffs, lose an AllStar blueliner...and the GM/Owners do NOTHING to improve the team? Quite honestly...this might be Barry's best coaching job yet. This team's "first line" would be a third line of a lot of teams in this league. The average hockey fan could not name more than five players on this roster.
Fangor
Nashville Predators
Location: Sec 120 EE, TN
Joined: 05.31.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
Scotty Bowman couldn't make this team much better. This roster is atrocious. The Preds got blasted out of the second round of the playoffs, lose an AllStar blueliner...and the GM/Owners do NOTHING to improve the team? Quite honestly...this might be Barry's best coaching job yet. This team's "first line" would be a third line of a lot of teams in this league. The average hockey fan could not name more than five players on this roster.
- PoileRulezzzYo

I say no more than three
slash&smash
Nashville Predators
Location: WTFDP!!!, NF
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:54 PM ET
I say no more than three
- Fangor

Easy 4! Ryan Suter, Alex Sulzer, Dan Hamhuis, & Cody Franson- 5 goals, 35 assists = $14 million cap hit > Shea Weber 3 goals 5 assists = $14 million cap hit.
RockiesTop
Nashville Predators
Location: Smyrna, TN
Joined: 12.27.2006

Mar 1 @ 1:29 AM ET
Columbus came into the league a year after Nashville and has struggled to keep up in the hyper competitive west.


Actually, Columbus and Minnesota came into the league two years after Nashville. Atlanta was the franchise that joined the year after us. When Nashville is compared to the records of our expansion brethren, it feels a whole lot better. However, I still want some FRICKEN offense. I have watched too many years of bad passing and players reluctanct to get the puck on net.
Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 9:36 AM ET
Easy 4! Ryan Suter, Alex Sulzer, Dan Hamhuis, & Cody Franson- 5 goals, 35 assists = $14 million cap hit > Shea Weber 3 goals 5 assists = $14 million cap hit.
- slash&smash


Shea's cap hit at least gets us to the floor. On top of that, all the other guys are playing on rosters that have at least one legitimate scoring threat. There's no one on the Preds roster that's a consistent, legitimate scoring threat. We have some guys that come close, but that's it.

D
slash&smash
Nashville Predators
Location: WTFDP!!!, NF
Joined: 01.26.2010

Mar 1 @ 10:20 AM ET
Shea's cap hit at least gets us to the floor. On top of that, all the other guys are playing on rosters that have at least one legitimate scoring threat. There's no one on the Preds roster that's a consistent, legitimate scoring threat. We have some guys that come close, but that's it.

D

- Predaceous

I really don't care about the 4 being gone but it makes you wonder if DP signed Hamhuis & shipped out Suter for a legitimate center would the preds be better off?

I know the Sedin brothers would Hal Gill into a Norris favorite but Hamhuis has done better on the PP than I thought he would.
slash&smash
Nashville Predators
Location: WTFDP!!!, NF
Joined: 01.26.2010

Mar 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
After looking at the standings, why in the hell did Colorado match Calgary OS?

The Av's now to mend the locker room, pay O'reilly more than he is worth, & could have had 2 #1 picks in the draft. They need more D men, Seth Jones could helped out more in the long run.
Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 11:05 AM ET
I really don't care about the 4 being gone but it makes you wonder if DP signed Hamhuis & shipped out Suter for a legitimate center would the preds be better off?

I know the Sedin brothers would Hal Gill into a Norris favorite but Hamhuis has done better on the PP than I thought he would.

- slash&smash


Hamhuis wasn't going to re-sign with the Preds. Did you see his face when he was drafted? He looked like someone spit in his Rice Krispies. I'm surprised he asked not to be traded, but even still there was speculation before the season was over about him heading to Vancouver, and that's exactly where he went.

Personally, I think Poile screwed up on both of them. From now on he should trade his assets if they don't sign by the trade deadline.

As for Hamhuis doing better on the power play, again he has the luxury of playing alongside certifiable playmakers. Weber doesn't have that luxury. And before every says how important Suter was to our power play, let's not forget that he was still a part of those horrendous power plays we had before last season. Last year was an aberration. This season is more like what we normally have in the PP.
Pucky the Whale
Nashville Predators
Location: TN
Joined: 06.24.2008

Mar 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
I'm not sure the Clune hate can be backed statistically. According to NHL.com, he has played on average 8 minutes a game, and 1 less game than Craig Smith who seems to be the darling honey badger who plays 13 minutes a game (including some PP time).

Adjust Clune's #s by ~1.6 to equate with the TOI for Smith, and you see the same # of pts , a +/- that is 6 pts better than Smith, both have a GWG, and a 7% shooting %. Of course, one is supposed to be a finesse forward and the other is a grinder with no skills according to folks around here.

But one guy also stands up for his team and adds a little spark to a wall paper paste type of team. I'm not saying I'd take Clune over Smith to move my mediocre team forward, nor does he have more potential than Smith, but I would cut the guy some slack already. He's contributing on and off the sheet.
Pucky the Whale
Nashville Predators
Location: TN
Joined: 06.24.2008

Mar 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
oh and isn't anyone tired of hearing that 30 goal scorers just aren't out there...?

3 guys with 35+ goals were moved this week. not saying any of them was the answer to our anemic offense, but they are out there and available. why we don't have one is another question altogether.
im4preds
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.14.2007

Mar 1 @ 2:17 PM ET
I'm not sure the Clune hate can be backed statistically. According to NHL.com, he has played on average 8 minutes a game, and 1 less game than Craig Smith who seems to be the darling honey badger who plays 13 minutes a game (including some PP time).

Adjust Clune's #s by ~1.6 to equate with the TOI for Smith, and you see the same # of pts , a +/- that is 6 pts better than Smith, both have a GWG, and a 7% shooting %. Of course, one is supposed to be a finesse forward and the other is a grinder with no skills according to folks around here.

But one guy also stands up for his team and adds a little spark to a wall paper paste type of team. I'm not saying I'd take Clune over Smith to move my mediocre team forward, nor does he have more potential than Smith, but I would cut the guy some slack already. He's contributing on and off the sheet.

- Pucky the Whale



You can adjust numbers to prove anything (I know I am a finance guy) but Clune just doesnt pass the look test. And i totally agree with D if Trotzy is going to plan him threaten him with loss of protruding parts of his body if he attempts to fight. He is GOD awful.

Are the kids in Milwaukee so bad that DP doesnt want to bring them to town? Something, anything would be better this bunch needs a shake up Yip, Gill, Blum and Hustlechuck are the only ones I remember being healthy scratches (san Big Ern). I think there is a comfort level with the others that Trotzy cant afford to sit them so they are just going thru the motions. Maybe a couple of call-ups would at least give the appearance of some competition for playing time
Pucky the Whale
Nashville Predators
Location: TN
Joined: 06.24.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
You can adjust numbers to prove anything (I know I am a finance guy) but Clune just doesnt pass the look test. And i totally agree with D if Trotzy is going to plan him threaten him with loss of protruding parts of his body if he attempts to fight. He is GOD awful.

Are the kids in Milwaukee so bad that DP doesnt want to bring them to town? Something, anything would be better this bunch needs a shake up Yip, Gill, Blum and Hustlechuck are the only ones I remember being healthy scratches (san Big Ern). I think there is a comfort level with the others that Trotzy cant afford to sit them so they are just going thru the motions. Maybe a couple of call-ups would at least give the appearance of some competition for playing time

- im4preds


i hear you but i'm taking the moneyball/warren harding approach. looking like a player and actually producing as a player are 2 different things. it ain't always pretty but a goal is a goal is a goal.
Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 3:52 PM ET
I'm not sure the Clune hate can be backed statistically. According to NHL.com, he has played on average 8 minutes a game, and 1 less game than Craig Smith who seems to be the darling honey badger who plays 13 minutes a game (including some PP time).

Adjust Clune's #s by ~1.6 to equate with the TOI for Smith, and you see the same # of pts , a +/- that is 6 pts better than Smith, both have a GWG, and a 7% shooting %. Of course, one is supposed to be a finesse forward and the other is a grinder with no skills according to folks around here.

But one guy also stands up for his team and adds a little spark to a wall paper paste type of team. I'm not saying I'd take Clune over Smith to move my mediocre team forward, nor does he have more potential than Smith, but I would cut the guy some slack already. He's contributing on and off the sheet.

- Pucky the Whale


The second part of that sentence I'll agree with, but the first part, not so much. Clune's fights are random. Half the time you can't even tell why he's dropping the gloves, and when he does he sucks at it. How much of a lift can it be to your team when your 'fighter' gets his ass kicked every time. It's either that or a hug-fest. Neither option is very attractive. I want Clune to stop fighting... period!


playhockey
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 1 @ 7:15 PM ET
Scotty Bowman couldn't make this team much better. This roster is atrocious. The Preds got blasted out of the second round of the playoffs, lose an AllStar blueliner...and the GM/Owners do NOTHING to improve the team? Quite honestly...this might be Barry's best coaching job yet. This team's "first line" would be a third line of a lot of teams in this league. The average hockey fan could not name more than five players on this roster.
- PoileRulezzzYo

Day One Season Ticket Holder
I've been watching Trotz a long time.
Its time to go.
R4Z0R
Nashville Predators
Location: Ashland City, TN
Joined: 04.28.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:32 PM ET
DP just picked up another AHL D man for McG. This means Huggy Bear is staying with the Preds. Not sure if a vet D man is on the move or a baby pred D prospect. Maybe both but is got a little crowded in the D corp. Something has to give!!!

So this today on twitter: @JUnderwood9 #preds have allowed 23 GA in the last 6 games - only 25 GA in the first 15 games. Ouch!

- slash&smash

Our prayers have been answered. If there is anything that with solve being last offensively in the league, it's a minor league D-man.
R4Z0R
Nashville Predators
Location: Ashland City, TN
Joined: 04.28.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:34 PM ET
Day One Season Ticket Holder
I've been watching Trotz a long time.
Its time to go.

- playhockey

Firing Trotz would be the worst mistake since trading Ronning for a heroin addict.
sigep predfan
Nashville Predators
Location: Clarksville, TN
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 2 @ 10:49 AM ET
Firing Trotz would be the worst mistake since trading Ronning for a heroin addict.
- R4Z0R


Trotz is a damn good coach. Many people outside of Nashville are amazed year after year when he continuously makes chicken salad out of chicken poop. As stated above, this roster is atrocious for a team that is allegedly gunning for the Stanley Cup. Hell, this team may not even make the playoffs at this rate. People who have invested a lot of time and money into this franchise need to be shown a more thorough commitment from ownership to upgrading this roster. It's not a lot of fun watching the team fall all over itself trying to score more than 1 goal per game.
PoileRulezzzYo
Nashville Predators
Location: #Where'sDavidPoileHiding?
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 2 @ 11:23 AM ET
Day One Season Ticket Holder
I've been watching Trotz a long time.
Its time to go.

- playhockey


And who would Nashville get that gives us better results. You cannot win Cups with poopty players. I would agree that his style does not please the masses, but he is forced to play that way because of a lack of talent on the ice.

You cannot put this on Trotz this time around. The roster is garbage...plain and simple.
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