wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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^^THIS^^ x1000.
Been saying that for a year now. Faceoff wins - check. Grit - check. Net presence - check. All in one guy for less than $3MM - Return of the Roar
Yeah, I hear you but......
the thing is
is Buffalo make a subtraction like that?
when you make an off season trade and suddenly launch the player you arguably obtained for a second line centre, you look to have to answer in the press & fans.
So...the return that Buffalo would receive IF they were even interested in launching Ott would have to be something that they would use to justify the deal.
You seconding a second line centre for Ott? |
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blackhawk24
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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Dont think they want Bolland.
If I was them Id start with Stalberg.
If Stalberg was not available Id stary with a #1 pick straight up or a #2 pick and Morin or Hayes or Someone else from Rockford that coild be on Columbus right now.
New CBJ gm wants more picks - mrpaulish
I'd rather see what it'd take for Ott from BUF first, then a close second Smith from OTT. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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And this is why you won't be General Managing in the NHL anytime soon. To boot, the Columbus G.M. already has 3 #1 picks in next year's draft. - RickJ
That was in their point of view.
Trading a CENTER that would really help a divison rival but the rival (Hawks) dont want to give up Stalberg if I was them Id ask for a #1 pick.
Not saying I would do that if I was Stan.
Equal centers Gassad and Roy went for #1 picks last year right ? |
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FredoXV
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Location: OH Joined: 06.23.2010
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Yeah, I hear you but......
the thing is
is Buffalo make a subtraction like that?
when you make an off season trade and suddenly launch the player you arguably obtained for a second line centre, you look to have to answer in the press & fans.
So...the return that Buffalo would receive IF they were even interested in launching Ott would have to be something that they would use to justify the deal.
You seconding a second line centre for Ott? - wiz1901
He would have been a great add from Dallas directly - if they were willing to deal him in-conference.
No way in hell Buffalo moves him after they sent Derek Roy out of town for him. The only way this is even remotely possible this year is if Regher gets canned before the trade deadline and the team starts an entire rebuild.
For the reasons the origional poster mentioned, Ott isn't a player teams will just give away. He's a rare comodity - a lot of desirable qualities for a cheap price tag. Those players tend not to be shopped without the prospect of a massive return. |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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If Morin and a second gets Brassard...Please and thank you. This kid is a good player and he can 1. keep up with the hawks pace and style 2. He has a good skillset that would allow Bolly to go back to 3c 3. Shaw can move to the top line with Hossa and Tazer - nickmo2699
It doesn't.
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MjulQvist
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Do you JJ think that Bolland could be traded this season? I believe that this summer maybe the time to do it. Maybe Stan should make a call to his ex-boss in Florida and make something happen then.. How about Bolly for Shawn Matthias and Panthers second round pick? |
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nickmo2699
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Location: IL Joined: 01.06.2012
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It doesn't. - wiz1901
Wasnt aware it was a three way call and you were involved. My apologies. |
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ArlingtonRob
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Location: 230 years was a good run, IL Joined: 01.20.2012
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That was in their point of view.
Trading a CENTER that would really help a divison rival but the rival (Hawks) dont want to give up Stalberg if I was them Id ask for a #1 pick.
Not saying I would do that if I was Stan.
Equal centers Gassad and Roy went for #1 picks last year right ? - mrpaulish
I assume you mean Gaustad? |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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That was in their point of view.
Trading a CENTER that would really help a divison rival but the rival (Hawks) dont want to give up Stalberg if I was them Id ask for a #1 pick.
Not saying I would do that if I was Stan.
Equal centers Gassad and Roy went for #1 picks last year right ? - mrpaulish
Just because Nashville made a horrible trade of a #1 for Gaustad doesn't make it the rule.
Roy was not traded for a number one.
Having trouble understanding sentence one but think I read it coherently enough to say...
Columbus has already had their share of crappy Scott Howsman trades where kids were launched , players were acquired and played their for a cup of coffee and are gone.
The only way any team trades for an impending UFA is if they are sure they have an understanding in place with player / agent before the deal is made, whether it is stalberg or anyone.
(Unless the team is acquiring the guy for only the playoff run)
I am not so sure the new GM is going to be hasty...and as I post earlier in this blog, the only real reason they trade Brassard is they want quanity now in the form of ready to play minor leaguers to infuse better influx of competition for current roster.
Or if they think they are going to get a scorer type with better scoring upsida than Brassard.
Am I wrong? |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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I assume you mean Gaustad? - ArlingtonRob
Yup.
WHat ever the fat thumbs on my poopty Galaxy ii type I don't have time to correct it. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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I assume you mean Gaustad? - ArlingtonRob
Or Maybe I meant a combination of Gaustad and Saad.... I dunno |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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If Stalberg was not available Id stary with a #1 pick straight up or a #2 pick and Morin or Hayes or Someone else from Rockford that coild be on Columbus right now...
It doesn't.
- wiz1901
Wasnt aware it was a three way call and you were involved. My apologies. - nickmo2699
nickmo2699 thinks brassard comes for "a #1 pick straight up or a #2 pick and Morin or Hayes or Someone else from Rockford that coild be on Columbus right now..."
and I called bullcrap to Columbus accepting that little.
Granted, this is a draft where all first rounders will be valued more highly than most years, but the hawks pick is going to be near the end of first round.
As far as the three way call comment back to me by you:
This is a blog not your personal IM with nickmo2699 and one person...so not a three way call---->more like open forum.
No apologies necessary sarcastic or not. |
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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That was in their point of view.
Trading a CENTER that would really help a divison rival but the rival (Hawks) dont want to give up Stalberg if I was them Id ask for a #1 pick.
Not saying I would do that if I was Stan.
Equal centers Gassad and Roy went for #1 picks last year right ? - mrpaulish
You are correct, Gaustad went for a #1 pick. He didn't do much for Nashville beyond the first round. Not sure about Derek Roy, I think Ott came back in return.
Bowman won't give his #1 selection away easily even if its the #30 pick overall. I think he would want to deal from his depth of young players in Rockford most of whom won't see the light of day in a Hawks uniform. Columbus will be in the other Conference next season so trading with the Hawks shouldn't concern them. But John Davidson might prefer to help St.Louis out first if they have something good to offer before he deals with Chicago.
And Columbus is a squad of total losers anyway - Brassard could help somewhat but he's no superstar.
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Kesler hurt again apparently |
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MjulQvist
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I am not so sure the new GM is going to be hasty...and as I post earlier in this blog, the only real reason they trade Brassard is they want quanity now in the form of ready to play minor leaguers to infuse better influx of competition for current roster.. - wiz1901
As much as I know about Kekalainen, he won´t. There will be no quick fixes for Jackets. Kekalainen is a smart man and has good hockey mind. He said when he left Finland that you have to be patient in rebuilding and I say he will be focusing on amateur scouting and drafting at first. |
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blackhawk24
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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Kesler hurt again apparently - fattybeef
What, dove during practice and fell on a skate? |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Kesler hurt again apparently - fattybeef
lol.
Diving injury |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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What, dove during practice and fell on a skate? - blackhawk24
Beat me to it |
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What, dove during practice and fell on a skate? - blackhawk24
Didn't skate at practice. Walking around in boot allegedly. |
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StLBravesFan
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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Esplen now covers his blog quality with photos of scantily clad ladies! It's kinda like Playboy ... Nuck fans go to the site and pretend they read the article. - paulr
While we go to the site and pretend to look at the photos. |
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What, dove during practice and fell on a skate? - blackhawk24
Broken foot..
If that's the case, and he misses times that is a HUGE HUGE loss for the Canuckleheads. |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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Bowman won't give his #1 selection away easily even if its the #30 pick overall. I think he would want to deal from his depth of young players in Rockford most of whom won't see the light of day in a Hawks uniform. Columbus will be in the other Conference next season so trading with the Hawks shouldn't concern them.Brassard could help somewhat but he's no superstar. - RickJ
Brassard has upside...no more or less.
He hasn't been able to stand out lead on the ice with additional scoring on a bad forward group that offers little help around him.
He hasn't made guys better either.
I think there is a better chance that the Hawks acquire a Columbus multi-pick than let theirs go, especially since they have not yet found replacement 2nd & 3rd rounders which I belive they will be looking to do also...
This shorten season provides a unique plane to make deals on...
Some teams despite the short schedule are going to rashly do deals to try and make the playoff...
Others are going to be looking towards next year early and may offer up guys they wouldn't be launching if their team was playing the regular 82 game schedule and they were in contention in middle February.
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PEIHawkFan
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What, dove during practice and fell on a skate? - blackhawk24
Kessler Dove in the Shallow end at the Airport Marriott pool....
Has his stock ever dropped in the past two seasons. Wow!
Canucks look like gang busters one night and horrible the next.
I actually feel sorry for any player that gets hurt and is never the same.Kesler may be one. |
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nickmo2699
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Location: IL Joined: 01.06.2012
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If Stalberg was not available Id stary with a #1 pick straight up or a #2 pick and Morin or Hayes or Someone else from Rockford that coild be on Columbus right now...
It doesn't.
- wiz1901
nickmo2699 thinks brassard comes for "a #1 pick straight up or a #2 pick and Morin or Hayes or Someone else from Rockford that coild be on Columbus right now..."
and I called bullcrap to Columbus accepting that little.
Granted, this is a draft where all first rounders will be valued more highly than most years, but the hawks pick is going to be near the end of first round.
As far as the three way call comment back to me by you:
This is a blog not your personal IM with nickmo2699 and one person...so not a three way call---->more like open forum.
No apologies necessary sarcastic or not. - wiz1901
Kind of confused. However, if Columbus is asking in return for a NHL ready player and a draft pick, IMO Rockford is full of them. The reason they are not in the NHL is because this organization is a bit backed up. Morin or Pirri and a #1 draft pick gives CBJ some serious weight in the first round of the draft. Were talking about a very deep draft that could start the building of their core. And with the possible realignment, we could see Columbus be willing to deal within the conference more readily.
I also apologize for the comment prior. Instead of just shooting down my comment, I was hoping for a little more feedback which you provided in the quoted post. |
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ArlingtonRob
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Location: 230 years was a good run, IL Joined: 01.20.2012
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Or Maybe I meant a combination of Gaustad and Saad.... I dunno - mrpaulish
LOL...fair enough. |
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