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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 5:12 PM ET
would have rather expended resources for a f/o guy, but maybe homer is starting to grasp...
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Howard Eskin- don't think the Flyers are done trading after Gagne deal.
- Winning


Eskin has some insider connections doesn't he? He is usually right on the nature of the upper/lower body injuries when he leaks them. Wonder if he got wind of something or is just yapping.
The_Universe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Soviet Russia
Joined: 02.11.2012

Feb 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Howard Eskin- don't think the Flyers are done trading after Gagne deal.
- Winning


Eskin always makes sure he takes a stance on something that is 50/50.

Option 1: Flyers aren't done
Option 2: Flyers are done

If the Flyers make a trade, he's right and boy does it make him feel good about himself. Flyers don't make a trade and we don't hear anything from him. Eskin is a genius.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Yeah I don't think it's bad at all if he's healthy. LA wanted to dump salary, we clearly need some help, and we only are giving up a 4th as it stands.
- Hextall271


I would trade them knuble if it meant them removing the conditional 3rd part
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
play hard get traded/demoted
- 2Real



Jump to conclusions much?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
No, but at least they're making an informed judgement on him. I agree with you that the Flyers shouldn't be giving away draft picks for older players. Especially true if it becomes a 3rd in the Flyers make the playoffs. What would offset that is if the Flyers make a miraculous run and hoist the Cup. Then I won't care about the 3rd. All I'm saying is that I don't know that Gagne is washed up, and I don't know how you know that either.
- MJL


Gagne hasn't been half the player he was. He's struggled to stay healthy. Has concussion issues. What makes us think he is going to change and become something he was?
The_Universe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Soviet Russia
Joined: 02.11.2012

Feb 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
Gagne hasn't been half the player he was. He's struggled to stay healthy. Has concussion issues. What makes us think he is going to change and become something he was?
- stveshdy


So you like the trade or you don't like the trade?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:15 PM ET

- BringBack25

Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 5:15 PM ET

- BringBack25


You could do the same thing with Hatcher vs. Lupul
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
Eskin always makes sure he takes a stance on something that is 50/50.

Option 1: Flyers aren't done
Option 2: Flyers are done

If the Flyers make a trade, he's right and boy does it make him feel good about himself. Flyers don't make a trade and we don't hear anything from him. Eskin is a genius.

- The_Universe

eskin was right about the carter and richards trades
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:16 PM ET
Gagne hasn't been half the player he was. He's struggled to stay healthy. Has concussion issues. What makes us think he is going to change and become something he was?
- stveshdy


Who said or thinks that Gagne is going to again be the player he was in the past? Who has that expectation?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 5:16 PM ET
So you like the trade or you don't like the trade?
- The_Universe


I rather keep the pick and play younger guys.
I don't understand the trade.

This team is going nowhere this year. They have many holes to fill. Keep your picks and add more to them at the deadline.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
Who said or thinks that Gagne is going to again be the player he was in the past? Who has that expectation?
- MJL


What are your expectations? How do you determine if a player is washed up or on the downside?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
Eskin has some insider connections doesn't he? He is usually right on the nature of the upper/lower body injuries when he leaks them. Wonder if he got wind of something or is just yapping.
- Lexington Flyer

Eskin only talks Flyers if he knows something, as I've seen. Then again, I only ever hear him comment on injury updates.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
1:25: "the dangerous Simon Gagne on the ice now ..."


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
eskin was right about the carter and richards trades
- 2Real


Yes he was. That's why I will always listen to him
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
Who said or thinks that Gagne is going to again be the player he was in the past? Who has that expectation?
- MJL


Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
what's the deal? Holmgren giving his old buddies a job before he gets fired?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
What are your expectations? How do you determine if a player is washed up or on the downside?
- stveshdy


He is most certainly on the downside. But that is not the same as washed up. I'm hoping Gagne can come in a provide solid veteran 2 way play. One of the latest topics of conversation was that the team was not getting any offense from the bottom 6. Now I don't know where Gagne is going to play. But if he is healthy, I think he can contribute in that area and provide some secondary offense. He can also play on the 2nd unit PP. Now I don't know what he does have left. But I'm not prepared to label him washed up until I see him play. That would be premature.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
Eskin only talks Flyers if he knows something, as I've seen. Then again, I only ever hear him comment on injury updates.
- BulliesPhan87

Eskin seems to have a pretty good Flyers source.

I don't think he should be dismissed just because he's a jerk.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
Yeah, they usually discount the ones with typos.
- Atomic Wedgie

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!!!!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 5:22 PM ET
He is most certainly on the downside. But that is not the same as washed up. I'm hoping Gagne can come in a provide solid veteran 2 way play. One of the latest topics of conversation was that the team was not getting any offense from the bottom 6. Now I don't know where Gagne is going to play. But if he is healthy, I think he can contribute in that area and provide some secondary offense. He can also play on the 2nd unit PP. Now I don't know what he does have left. But I'm not prepared to label him washed up until I see him play. That would be premature.
- MJL


Thats fine. I think hes on the downside. Rather keep the pick and play younger players. This team IMO isnt a true contender. Adding Gagne does nothing for me at this point.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:22 PM ET
He is most certainly on the downside. But that is not the same as washed up. I'm hoping Gagne can come in a provide solid veteran 2 way play. One of the latest topics of conversation was that the team was not getting any offense from the bottom 6. Now I don't know where Gagne is going to play. But if he is healthy, I think he can contribute in that area and provide some secondary offense. He can also play on the 2nd unit PP. Now I don't know what he does have left. But I'm not prepared to label him washed up until I see him play. That would be premature.
- MJL


Isn't that what Fedotenko or Knuble is for? Has Gagne even played this season?
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:23 PM ET
Who said or thinks that Gagne is going to again be the player he was in the past? Who has that expectation?
- MJL


That is my expectation. I expect Gagne to play exactly the same way he did in the past. I think it's a lock. More specifically, he will play just as well for the Flyers as he did for the Kings last week.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:23 PM ET
Eskin seems to have a pretty good Flyers source.

I don't think he should be dismissed just because he's a jerk.

- FlyerGuy


I think it's a pretty safe bet that they aren't done. Doesn't Gagne put them at 50 contracts? Homer usually likes to have a free slot there.
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