Why not? He has 5 years left until his yearly salary drops to $2.25m and then to $1.25m. That's not untradeable so if he can play well for 4-5 more seasons than there's no issue.
- NickTheKid87

Possible? Yes. Likely? Hell no.

Would I be willing to chance these next 8 years on him? No thanks.

You might not even get a chance to offer them a deal either.
- JoeRussomanno

Very possible.

Well, thanks for the good arguments, guys.

Back to work.

Holmgren vs Holmgren. And both lost.
- phillydentist

paul vs mike

cage match

who you got?

Well, thanks for the good arguments, guys.

Back to work.
- phillydentist

Damnit. I miss work.

Damnit. I miss work.
- Jsaquella

heh I have some cable lines to run through a nasty crawl space. How bad do you miss it?

Why not? He has 5 years left until his yearly salary drops to $2.25m and then to $1.25m. That's not untradeable so if he can play well for 4-5 more seasons than there's no issue.
- NickTheKid87

There's the issue that if he retires he will still count against the cap because of the Luongo rule.

Bobrovsky is a talented kid, and had Laviolette handled him better, it's possible he'd develop into a good solid starter.

However, everytime Bob was given a shot to win the job, he'd start allowing soft goals. He's done it in Columbus, too. He's had games where you see him committing robbery left and right, then getting beat five hole on an unscreened shot from a 4th liner.
- Jsaquella

Sort of like bryz but without the contract?

paul vs mike

cage match

who you got?
- Crimsoninja

Paul.

There's the issue that if he retires he will still count against the cap because of the Luongo rule.
- Feanor

I doubt he retires.

Possible? Yes. Likely? Hell no.

Would I be willing to chance these next 8 years on him? No thanks.
- phillydentist

Let's say he plays 4 more good years after this year and struggles in his 5th (year 7 of deal). You don't think a small market team would be interested in Bryz for the last 2 years of his deal? They would only have to pay him a total of $3.5 million for 2 years of a $5.67 million cap hit.

There's the issue that if he retires he will still count against the cap because of the Luongo rule.
- Feanor

I'm well aware of that penalty and that's the only real reason I'd want them to buyout Bryz.

Sort of like bryz but without the contract?
- SMS4016

And without the track record. That's the thing that people seem to forget. Bryzgalov had 4 or 5 years as an exceptional NHL starter prior to coming to Philly. He didn't roll off a turnip truck and get handed a huge contract.

And without the track record. That's the thing that people seem to forget. Bryzgalov had 4 or 5 years as an exceptional NHL starter prior to coming to Philly. He didn't roll off a turnip truck and get handed a huge contract.
- Jsaquella

has bobrovsky even registered an actual shutout in a full game yet?

edit: answer - no.

Bryz would be great right now if this team was a cotender....but that realistically isnt for another 3 years....i say you trade for bernier .... a 27/28 yr old Bernier > then a 35 yr old bryz.

There's the issue that if he retires he will still count against the cap because of the Luongo rule.
- Feanor

That's far and away my biggest concern. Of course, if he does walk away, he'd be leaving a few million on the table

Let's say he plays 4 more good years after this year and struggles in his 5th (year 7 of deal). You don't think a small market team would be interested in Bryz for the last 2 years of his deal? They would only have to pay him a total of $3.5 million for 2 years of a $5.67 million cap hit.
- NickTheKid87

That's the situation we have now with Briere, including the NMC. We'll see how many suitors the Flyers get for him come April. Hopefully quite a few.

And without the track record. That's the thing that people seem to forget. Bryzgalov had 4 or 5 years as an exceptional NHL starter prior to coming to Philly. He didn't roll off a turnip truck and get handed a huge contract.
- Jsaquella

Of course, the counter to that argument is that he was playing in a system that made goalies look better than they actually were.

Bryz would be great right now if this team was a cotender....but that realistically isnt for another 3 years....i say you trade for bernier .... a 27/28 yr old Bernier > then a 35 yr old bryz.
- Philly1980

They could be a contender next year.

Of course, the counter to that argument is that he was playing in a system that made goalies look better than they actually were.
- Atomic Wedgie

He still looks solid in a system that doesn't.

That's the situation we have now with Briere, including the NMC. We'll see how many suitors the Flyers get for him come April. Hopefully quite a few.
- Feanor

I think Danny will want to go to a contender. Either way, I don't think we see him in the O & B in 2013-14.

That's the situation we have now with Briere, including the NMC. We'll see how many suitors the Flyers get for him come April. Hopefully quite a few.
- Feanor

Bryzgalov doesn't have the child custody issues that Briere does either.

Bryz would be great right now if this team was a cotender....but that realistically isnt for another 3 years....i say you trade for bernier .... a 27/28 yr old Bernier > then a 35 yr old bryz.
- Philly1980

If Bernier turns out to be a good goalie, sure. If he doesn't, you traded a high pick in a deep draft for Brian Boucher or Robert Esche

Yeah, Bryz let in a bad goal... name one goalie that doesn't happen to. I still see him making key saves to keep us in games. Personally I think we need to use our backup a little more and get him some rest.

Toronto's defense kept us to the outside through much of the game, their pk stopped our powerplay and Scrivens had the answers when they diddn't. In a word, we got beat. We had a couple of bounces go the other way, we could have won.

This is a hardworking and talented team... the problem is, so is the other team.

If Bernier turns out to be a good goalie, sure. If he doesn't, you traded a high pick in a deep draft for Brian Boucher or Robert Esche
- Jsaquella

I would look to trade a laughton/read +.... Not this years first.