he has been awful playing with real hockey players...how would he do hear?? although ten bucks he scores next time we play them
- NYI78

I agree Gagne might not help but it seems other GM's have a relationship with each other and Snow doesn't...that's my point....

Because your definition is completely flawed.

strongly or fanatically determined or devoted ; especially : strongly resisting change
— die·hard noun
— die–hard·ism \-ˌiz-əm\ noun

Now by your flawed/feeble definition, no one who didn't start cheering for the team from birth can be considered devoted.

I would submit that any fan who cheers for their team and refuses to stop cheering for that team no matter what the circumstances is a diehard fan. So in 1978 I decided to cheer for the Isles. I've likely cheered for tham as long or LONGER than you. I have several THOUSAND dollars in Islanders memoribilla. Attend several games a year. Cheer for them in a city hostile to fans of other teams. Yet you feel that's not diehard? 35 years?
If you can't see how flawed your concept is, you're beyond talkling to.
- keaner17

More importantly, how did you get the letters all red like that? Wow, I did it by accident? WTF

I loved the old goal song
- Vukota

The New Song SUCKS

I agree Gagne might not help but it seems other GM's have a relationship with each other and Snow doesn't...that's my point....
- kear20

Snow doesn't get any respect around the league, it's obvious. One of my biggest knocks on him. It's an important tool as far as being a GM in this leagu and I'm guessing any league for that matter?

More importantly, how did you get the letters all red like that? Wow, I did it by accident? WTF
- Cptmjl

RED BOLD LETTERS!!!!!

Tell me how.

Because your definition is completely flawed.

strongly or fanatically determined or devoted ; especially : strongly resisting change
— die·hard noun
— die–hard·ism \-ˌiz-əm\ noun

Now by your flawed/feeble definition, no one who didn't start cheering for the team from birth can be considered devoted.

I would submit that any fan who cheers for their team and refuses to stop cheering for that team no matter what the circumstances is a diehard fan. So in 1978 I decided to cheer for the Isles. I've likely cheered for tham as long or LONGER than you. I have several THOUSAND dollars in Islanders memoribilla. Attend several games a year. Cheer for them in a city hostile to fans of other teams. Yet you feel that's not diehard? 35 years?
If you can't see how flawed your concept is, you're beyond talkling to.
- keaner17

I'm guessing you missed my follow up post when you said you were 6 when you became an Islander fan?? Of course you're a die hard because you have been following them pretty much your whole life. My point was and I can't believe I have to explain this again but if you're a fan of one team then after a prolonged period of time you switch teams to root for you can't have the same passion as someone who has been rooting for that team their whole life. To me that's the definition of a die hard fan. Why is that so hard to understand???

I'm guessing you missed my follow up post when you said you were 6 when you became an Islander fan?? Of course you're a die hard because you have been following them pretty much your whole life. My point was and I can't believe I have to explain this again but if you're a fan of one team then after a prolonged period of time you switch teams to root for you can't have the same passion as someone who has been rooting for that team their whole life. To me that's the definition of a die hard fan. Why is that so hard to understand???
- Vukota

This red letter thing is contagious Damn

This red letter thing is contagious Damn
- Cptmjl

It just makes it red if you copy his post

RED BOLD LETTERS!!!!!

Tell me how.
- SCLI

Just comment on Keaner 17's original post with the defintion of being a die hard and your letters will turn red too

It just makes it red if you copy his post
- Vukota

I am computer illiterate

You're going to get piled on for this one
- Cptmjl

It was fun in the 70's when they were moving up the standings...they had a good management team in place. Almost got a job with them out of college. The team today I don't like. The management team sucks, outside of a handful, it wouldn't bother me if they were traded. This team reminds me of the NY Giants in the early 70's before George Young became the GM. Bad picks, lousy coaching....

More importantly, how did you get the letters all red like that? Wow, I did it by accident? WTF
- Cptmjl

LMAO...I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!! The emotion indicator must have gone off!

It was fun in the 70's when they were moving up the standings...they had a good management team in place. Almost got a job with them out of college. The team today I don't like. The management team sucks, outside of a handful, it wouldn't bother me if they were traded. This team reminds me of the NY Giants in the early 70's before George Young became the GM. Bad picks, lousy coaching....
- kear20

and lousy management... I agree 100%. It's tough, have to ride it out and try to ignore all the "smart" fans.

LMAO...I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!! The emotion indicator must have gone off!
- keaner17

Because your definition is completely flawed.

strongly or fanatically determined or devoted ; especially : strongly resisting change
— die·hard noun
— die–hard·ism -ˌiz-əm noun

Now by your flawed/feeble definition, no one who didn't start cheering for the team from birth can be considered devoted.

I would submit that any fan who cheers for their team and refuses to stop cheering for that team no matter what the circumstances is a diehard fan. So in 1978 I decided to cheer for the Isles. I've likely cheered for them as long or LONGER than you. I have several THOUSAND dollars in Islanders memoribilla. Attend several games a year. Cheer for them in a city hostile to fans of other teams. Yet you feel that's not diehard? 35 years?
If you can't see how flawed your concept is, you're beyond talkling to.
- keaner17

BIG RED AND BOLD.

THANKS CAPT

BIG RED AND BOLD.






- SCLI

There ya go

and lousy management... I agree 100%. It's tough, have to ride it out and try to ignore all the "smart" fans.
- Cptmjl

Snow doesn't get any respect around the league, it's obvious. One of my biggest knocks on him. It's an important tool as far as being a GM in this leagu and I'm guessing any league for that matter?
- Cptmjl

Agree...I travel alot and have run into some NHL teams when I'm at hotels. One of the coaches of the Avs was sitting next to me at the hotel bar. We got into a conversation and I told him I was an Islanders fan. He was telling me that the Isles mgmt...low balls all trade proposals...so it is hard to work with them...

Agree...I travel alot and have run into some NHL teams when I'm at hotels. One of the coaches of the Avs was sitting next to me at the hotel bar. We got into a conversation and I told him I was an Islanders fan. He was telling me that the Isles mgmt...low balls all trade proposals...so it is hard to work with them...
- kear20

So basically they're like all fantasy owners you try and make a trade with??

I'm guessing you missed my follow up post when you said you were 6 when you became an Islander fan?? Of course you're a die hard because you have been following them pretty much your whole life. My point was and I can't believe I have to explain this again but if you're a fan of one team then after a prolonged period of time you switch teams to root for you can't have the same passion as someone who has been rooting for that team their whole life. To me that's the definition of a die hard fan. Why is that so hard to understand???
- Vukota

because I think it's a discredit to anyone who has been through the tough times with this team. I've obviously been a fan for longer than a lot of folks here have been alive. That said, there's no way I would tell ANYONE here who has managed to cheer for this team through the last decade that they aren't a diehard fan even if they cheered for the Rangers from 75-95 and then Isles from 96 to today. If anyting, the definition of diehard fan is exactly what EVERYONE here is!

Simon Gagne to Flyers for a conditional 4th round pick...injury prone but could have helped on the 2nd line...it seems like it's a big deal for the Islanders to make a trade while the other teams swap players at will...
- kear20

UN-(frank)ING-REAL!!!!!

Just comment on Keaner 17's original post with the defintion of being a die hard and your letters will turn red too
- Cptmjl

LOL...DON'T TOUCH IT!

Agree...I travel alot and have run into some NHL teams when I'm at hotels. One of the coaches of the Avs was sitting next to me at the hotel bar. We got into a conversation and I told him I was an Islanders fan. He was telling me that the Isles mgmt...low balls all trade proposals...so it is hard to work with them...
- kear20

that in itself is not a bad thing, you don't want them to give up too much . I know what he means though I'm sure. Like offering Acoin for O'reilly. You can see Snow making some completely wacky BS proposal to someone because my impression of him is wacky. I've met players from other teams a couple times just being out and about at events or bars and one thing is consistent. Nobody respects Snow, Wang, or this team.

So basically they're like all fantasy owners you try and make a trade with??
- Vukota

I'm telling you what he told me...you can take it or leave it...

So basically they're like all fantasy owners you try and make a trade with??
- Vukota