I agree with you...

I am sure I will be burned for saying this... but I really hope that we do not bid on Getzlaf... and instead wait for Lecavalier to get bought out... I can't see TBL keeping him making that much money for anohter 7 years to be on their 2nd line. Vinny didn't decline until he was taken off the 1st line and was stuck playing with guys like Malone, Prospal, and Downie...

He is captain material... he is huge.. he is aggressive and physical.. he has close to 100 checks every year.. he fights for his team..
- JVince11

Vinny would be a decent guy if at a lower contract.. Not sure if he is a top line guy anymore though.

at least the bandits can win a championship
- qcstudios

Thats true

How old is he? Do you know?
- druryisclutch

he is 32... why?

Make his jersey lighter is all i can come up with . Would the team be less without his leadership qualities ?
- cabin

I meant what would it do to him? Would it kill his confidence, and then he wouldn't be that 60 point quality PK'er? That's why I trade him all together and get some assets in return.

Vinny would be a decent guy if at a lower contract.. Not sure if he is a top line guy anymore though.
- SabresFaninIndiana

that is why i said I would want him to be bought out first.. I don't want him at 7+M until 2020.. but if we could negotiate with him at maybe like 3 year 15-18M.. I would be all for it.

I think he is a top line guy.... he needs guys who put hte puck in the net next to him... not Malone, Downie, and Prospol like the last 4 years in TB...

if he had Vanek and Pommer on his wings.. it would be BOOOM

he is 32... why?
- JVince11

Was just curious. I would hate to throw big money at anyone approaching 35.

I meant what would it do to him? Would it kill his confidence, and then he wouldn't be that 60 point quality PK'er? That's why I trade him all together and get some assets in return.
- druryisclutch

Agreed. You can't demote Pominville and then try to resign him

that is why i said I would want him to be bought out first.. I don't want him at 7+M until 2020.. but if we could negotiate with him at maybe like 3 year 15-18M.. I would be all for it.
- JVince11

Vanek - Lecavalier - Armia

I think Grigo is our 2C of the future and Ennis either is going to wing or is traded.
- JVince11

that is why i would trade him for ROR in a second.. we need more defensive punch down the middle that doesn't suck as loud as hecht.

I meant what would it do to him? Would it kill his confidence, and then he wouldn't be that 60 point quality PK'er? That's why I trade him all together and get some assets in return.
- druryisclutch

He has always been the quiet producer. so not sure if it would effect him. Who knows

Was just curious. I would hate to throw big money at anyone approaching 35.
- druryisclutch

I agree... I would only want to sign him to a 3-4 year deal.

Hi. What's been shaking?
- BuffaloHardHat

Vanek - Lecavalier - Armia
- qcstudios

Now we are cooking with gas.


(isn't Armia a LW though?.. not saying he couldn't change)

Agreed. You can't demote Pominville and then try to resign him
- sbroads24

he has value i would be looking to move him..

- homiedclown

Now we are cooking with gas.


(isn't Armia a LW though?.. not saying he couldn't change)
- JVince11

vanek can play both wings

Id prefer not to have anyone over the age of 30

that is why i would trade him for ROR in a second.. we need more defensive punch down the middle that doesn't suck as loud as hecht.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Hodgson or Ennis.... i would trade them both for ROR.

- homiedclown

Oh is that all?

Hi. What's been shaking?
- BuffaloHardHat

Now we are cooking with gas.


(isn't Armia a LW though?.. not saying he couldn't change)
- JVince11

i was thinking the same thing just now....

so Armia - Lecavalier - Pommer?

trade vanek for another first rounder and prospect?

Id prefer not to have anyone over the age of 30
- hubie

that will be hard if you want to be a contender... I don't want to go into FULL rebuild mode like EDM or CLB...

I siad at the beginning of the season.. if we are going to suck for a year and get a high pick.. i prefer it be only a 48 game season...

- homiedclown

Seems to be a theme here or some type of fetish

i was thinking the same thing just now....

so Armia - Lecavalier - Pommer?

trade vanek for another first rounder and prospect?
- qcstudios

Just depends.. if it is for a top 10 1st rounder then that is the focus of the trade... but I bet we could trae Vanek if he starts getting hot again... for a decent top 6 player and a 15+ 1st rounder...

Richards and Carter both got a top 6 winger in Voracek and Simmonds in addition to first rounders and i think Vanek is every bit as valuable as they were.